The "Official" BC Election Thread Liberals, NDP & Greens

Nick Danger

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It seems to be the norm in Canadian politics at all levels that we get pissed at the incumbents and decide to turf them without a whole lot of thought as to what we replace them with. The NDP's entire campaign is based on "Let's get her!", inciting anger at every opportunity, pretty much the same as the right is doing in Alberta. In BC, Hulk Horgan is more concerned with keeping the electorate angry than anything else, as it's a fact that an angry electorate is not a thinking electorate. In the background, for those willing to look for it, is your basic socialist agenda of programs to benefit the lower end of the income spectrum financed by the higher end. And the middle class, those who just want to work and get ahead a little, can look forward to the NDP slamming on the brakes for job opportunities like Site C Dam, the Kinder Morgan expansion, and LNG development. Say what you will about the BC Liberals, they've kept the store open through some pretty tough times.

Just for comparison, the right/left dichotomy doesn't really work across the BC/Alberta border without applying an exchange rate, as the BC NDP are considerably further to the left than the Alberta NDP.
 

JLM

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It seems to be the norm in Canadian politics at all levels that we get pissed at the incumbents and decide to turf them without a whole lot of thought as to what we replace them with. The NDP's entire campaign is based on "Let's get her!", inciting anger at every opportunity, pretty much the same as the right is doing in Alberta. In BC, Hulk Horgan is more concerned with keeping the electorate angry than anything else, as it's a fact that an angry electorate is not a thinking electorate. In the background, for those willing to look for it, is your basic socialist agenda of programs to benefit the lower end of the income spectrum financed by the higher end. And the middle class, those who just want to work and get ahead a little, can look forward to the NDP slamming on the brakes for job opportunities like Site C Dam, the Kinder Morgan expansion, and LNG development. Say what you will about the BC Liberals, they've kept the store open through some pretty tough times.

Just for comparison, the right/left dichotomy doesn't really work across the BC/Alberta border without applying an exchange rate, as the BC NDP are considerably further to the left than the Alberta NDP.


That's pretty much my take on the situation. I hear a lot of crying about how Christy screwed up the education system, but it's mostly a lot of hyperbole. I have four grandchildren who have been in the B.C. education at different times from 2001- 2017 and they've had it a hell of a lot easier than we had it back in the day. I say it's high time to quit Molly Coddling the kids and get them back to doing things for themselves.
 

Cliffy

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Cliffy

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NDP is a disaster.
All parties in all governments are a disaster. Why do you think that is? Could it be that the system is designed to keep us off balance? Democracy is a joke because it really doesn't exist. We have a corporatocracy and they don't give a sh!t about anybody but their bottom line. Kill the party system if you want a government that represents the good of the people.
 

petros

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Yup, the economy... the economy... what bloody use is an economy if you can't breath the air or drink the water? The Liberals gave Mount Polly cart blanche to dump their toxic waste right into Quesnel Lake after they caused the biggest environmental disaster in BC history. Crispy Carp is a corporate w.h.o.r.e... not to mention the billions being spent on site C that we don't need and will cost tax payers billions for generations or the 40 something fish farm licenses she just issued that are killing our wild salmon and infesting our oceans. You bozos can't see past your wallets or your noses. You don't give a sh!t about your children or grandchildren.
The "ECONOMY" funds your welfare. If you weren't a lazy prick who couldn't stick to working 5 f-cking consecutive years you could have been living the good life on Disabilty CPP and not be a burden on the BC's working poor.
 

Cliffy

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The "ECONOMY" funds your welfare. If you weren't a lazy prick who couldn't stick to working 5 f-cking consecutive years you could have been living the good life on Disabilty CPP and not be a burden on the BC's working poor.
Go fukk yourself you ignorant asshole. I am not on welfare. I worked right up until I retired.
I really pity you. You are such a pathetic dipsh!t always having to put others down to make yourself feel superior. Well you ain't. You really need help from a certified mental health professional.
 

Twin_Moose

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Jobs, affordability big promises in B.C. election

VANCOUVER - With just over a week left in British Columbia's election campaign, the leaders spent Sunday out on the hustings trying to shore up votes.
Campaigning in the Kootenays, B.C. Liberal Leader Christy Clark repeated her party's promise to protect jobs in resource industries like forestry and mining.

Last week, the U.S. introduced tariffs of up to 24 per cent on Canadian lumber, and Clark said her party is the only one that can stand up for B.C. workers in the face of rising protectionism.
"The NDP can't do it. The Greens won't do it. Not when they have opposed so many of the jobs we already have in British Columbia," she said during a campaign stop at a hardware store in Invermere, B.C.
Clark's party also reiterated a promise Sunday to bring ride-sharing to B.C. by December 2017, saying in a release that new legislation would be tabled in the first session following the election.
The Liberals also announced a car-sharing tax credit at an annual cost of $1.5 million.
Meanwhile, New Democrat Leader John Horgan campaigned around the Lower Mainland, repeating his party's pledge to make life more affordable for British Columbians.
The message is striking a chord with people who have consistently seen their cost of living rise under the Liberal government, he said.
"The Liberals are saying 'This is as good as it gets.' And the public's saying 'We can do better than this.' And a better B.C. is nine days away."
Horgan said his campaign is building momentum, and there's an energy and excitement in the air that he hasn't seen for a "long, long time."
"The Liberals want desperately to hold on to power for the wealthy and the well-connected, and the people are desperate for a government that works for them," he said.
The message has resonated with at least one young supporter.
Eleven-year-old Charlie Gatley was in the crowd at a campaign stop in Burnaby, B.C., on Sunday and he told The Canadian Press how he rallied his friends to donate to the NDP campaign. He said the group came up with $70.
Gatley called the donation "a worthy cause" and said he likes the party's stance on improving public health care.
"I really like that, because if I get an injury, I want to know that I can be treated well and that my injuries get cured," said the Grade 5 student.
A man at an NDP event in Vancouver on Sunday wasn't as impressed with the party's promises. The man heckled Horgan as he spoke to media, saying the leader's endless promises will bankrupt the province.
Horgan responded by saying the New Democrats' platform is fully costed and that he would be happy to speak with the man about his concerns after the event.
 

taxslave

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And John Horgan is doing absolutely nothing to mitigate it. :)

Kind of hard when he is leading the charge to make a disaster out of BC.

What happened to the double digit lead the dippers were bragging about a couple of daze ago? This morning Globull NEws puts the Liberals in a 2 point lead.
 

JLM

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Kind of hard when he is leading the charge to make a disaster out of BC.

What happened to the double digit lead the dippers were bragging about a couple of daze ago? This morning Globull NEws puts the Liberals in a 2 point lead.


I don't know whose idea it was to put Horgan in charge of the Dippers, but it was a bad one.....................or good one depending on how you look at it! :)
 

Nick Danger

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I agree that our political system is broken. Corporate, union, even environmental influences use questionable strategies where fact and truth take second place to spin and manipulation. The chasm between the electorate on those who are supposed to represent them grows wider by the day. The question is how do we get from here to there? I suspect it will take a little more than being a smart ass on social media. I think one possible route would be to have enough independents in place to sway the vote and keep the big parties more in line with what the people actually want/need.
 

mentalfloss

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The NDP didn't screw Alberta. There's a reason why the NDP won in 2015. Alberta was already getting screwed.

But Albertan's are notorious for never learning their lessons when it comes to the oil industry. Of course they'll blame the NDP for the economic collapse that happened before the election and was the reason they voted NDP in the first place. And when the price of oil goes up again, they'll just repeat the same cycle.

You soft shells really can't take anything truthful about the NDP around these parts.

i agree that our political system is broken. Corporate, union, even environmental influences use questionable strategies where fact and truth take second place to spin and manipulation. The chasm between the electorate on those who are supposed to represent them grows wider by the day. The question is how do we get from here to there? I suspect it will take a little more than being a smart ass on social media. I think one possible route would be to have enough independents in place to sway the vote and keep the big parties more in line with what the people actually want/need.

TEH ESTABLISHMENT

 
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Corduroy

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I went to an advance polling station this weekend. They had a selfie corner, so you could be a Millennial without breaking the law. It was a nice touch. Very inclusive. I didn't feel completely screwed by political process.

You soft shells really can't take anything truthful about the NDP around these parts.

Or anything truthful in general.