The Four Terrible Things That Are Destroying Boys In Our Culture

Danbones

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Why, will you be leaving the driveway on your tricycle?
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Don't put it behind my truck in my driveway like that when you go play.

You nazicommieglobalists haven't hijacked the right to do that YET at least.
( though the chinese communists are laundering money around here by buying up all the houses that were for sale, and driving up the rent, they won't get mine.)

The damn CROOKED communist capitalists of first opportunity eh? UNTrudie's example and policies are the WORST things that ever happened to the stature of boys and men in the history of CANADA.
 
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JLM

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I'm not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic or if you're just tired and meant to type something else.

If you don't believe me, talk to a realtor! :lol:

If you want to sell a house, that's considered what you must do - GENERALLY, make the K and B look good for the ladies. Men it is said, GENERALLY look at roofs and windows.
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My sister is a real estate agent and that's what she said is the industry wisdom because that's the way it goes.

Yep, Men are practical and functional! :lol:
 

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If you want to sell a house, that's considered what you must do - GENERALLY, make the K and B look good for the ladies. Men it is said, GENERALLY look at roofs and windows.
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My sister is a real estate agent and that's what she said is the industry wisdom because that's the way it goes.

Going wild on the kitchen and master bathroom is a great marketing technique, but it's highly unlikely that you'll get your money out.

On that note, the price the house accordingly (perhaps a little lower) without dropping 6 figures on renos and market it as discounted to accommodate those renos by the new buyer
 

spilledthebeer

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Going wild on the kitchen and master bathroom is a great marketing technique, but it's highly unlikely that you'll get your money out.

On that note, the price the house accordingly (perhaps a little lower) without dropping 6 figures on renos and market it as discounted to accommodate those renos by the new buyer


Speaking of houses- here is an article illustrating LIE-beral stupidity in that area:

Here is another article illustrating the delusional nonsense that LIE-berals throw out to distract us from real problems! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Obsolete land the solution to GTA housing woes: Report

By Joe Warmington, Toronto Sun. First posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 08:50 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 09:00 PM EDT

To correct insane housing prices you just need to “significantly increase the number of new ground-related housing units built,” says Ryerson professor Frank Clayton, a senior research fellow and economist. (ERNEST DOROSZUK/TORONTO SUN)

Just open up vacant land and build on it. Who would have ever thought it was that easy? You don’t need a 16-point government plan to repair a mess that many argue they helped create.

You don’t need what some call an intolerant foreign investor tax to cool off the market.

No, to correct insane housing prices you just need to “significantly increase the number of new ground-related housing units built,” says Ryerson professor Frank Clayton, a senior research fellow and economist.

That’s it? “Yes,” says Clayton. “And compromise.”

(Oh RIGHT! Compromise with powerful NIMBY groups in Toronto? HAHAHA! The Moore Park NIMBY`s are so powerful they SHUT OFF public access to roads in their neighbourhood- once they decided too many commuters were using them!)

(Other well heeled NIMBY`s are using their political clout to ensure NOTHING NEW get built in their area without huge and costly argument! History buff NIMBY`s work to save all manner of architectural trivia- wasting time and money- and trying the public patience!)

A report he and professor David Amborski — director of Ryerson’s Centre for Urban Research and Land Development — released Tuesday suggests the GTA’s rising housing prices are due largely to a government-induced serviced land shortage.

(That I WILL agree with! LIE-berals need ALL OUR MONEY to buy more fuel for the govt gravy train! Without a steady flow of gravy to civil service Hogs, LIE-berals will be TOAST! So there is no govt money left for new roads or new transit. And besides, LIE-berals are trying to steal votes away from Green Party airheads and don’t want to be seen contributing to urban sprawl!)

And blame for that problem “falls largely on the provincial government and municipalities for failing to respond effectively to the expected demand,” says a release about the report.

(Do these airhead profs think LIE-berals can somehow CREATE LAND in Toronto with a wave of a magic wand? A further issue is the cost of providing expanded govt services for new housing sub division- all those new cops and new firemen and their costly trucks and etc are expensive and politicians have discovered that home owners that have been in place for many years resent having to pay huge tax increases to provide services to `johnny come lately` types. Add in the further problem of the ever expanding Hog work force with its ever expanding demand for new gravy, new office space and new govt vehicles. Growing a city is COSTLY- and Hogs are like dogs- if you have only one it listens to you. But if you have ten dogs, they listen to each other and ignore you- just like Hogs! And LIE-berals are already feeling pinched between the demands of Hogs and the fiscal panic of the regular public!)

There’s lots of land. It’s just that developers are not allowed to build on it.

(Oh sure- there is LOTS of land at Ataratiri- the huge PLANNED but never built housing complex on the Toronto east end port lands! Govt spent a billion dollars forcing out businesses and buying up land etc- and then discovered that after a century of heavy industrial activity, that land is too polluted to live on without HUGE soil remediation! There is LOTS of vacant land in Toronto- too bad its polluted or too close to flood prone areas, or too close to highways or industrial areas that produce awkward smells or late night noises! Toronto Silly Hall has been arguing about the west end slaughterhouses for several decades- do they want the jobs and tax revenue or do they want to kill off the noises and smells? Its one or the other and Silly Hall does not want to kill jobs or offend tax payers- so it is paralyzed!)

(There is also Gardiner Expressway to consider- that massive crumbling pile of concrete that is an essential life line into the lower part of Toronto! LIE-berals want it torn down- in part because the cost of repairing it will interfere with their gravy train! And- as it looks to me- LIE-berals also want the lands near Gardiner to build housing on so they can collect more tax revenue and new residents can live free from the noise and pollution of Gardiner- too bad though for anybody who needs Gardiner for deliveries or commuting or etc. Hypocrite Hogs do not want us peasants driving through their neighborhoods- but they DO expect access to major highways located near their neighbourhoods- but NOT IN- so they can speed quickly to their country estates in Muskoka!)

This, says Clayton, must change.

“Not to build single family houses and or condominium towers,” but to construct “townhouses and stacked apartment-style” buildings.

(Stacked town houses and apartments are exactly the kind of development that brings out the strongest NIMBY objectors! Toronto Hogs do not want their nice neighbourhoods filled up with POOR people or with the welfare bums and security risks that represent the dregs of the insane LIE-beral immigration system- or with the recently released from jail but not at all reformed drug dealers, addicts, gang bangers, hookers and etc! Toronto Hogs are painfully aware that cheap housing too often also attracts cheap renters and Hogs pay good money to live AWAY from such people!)

Do it on “obsolete and industrial lands.”

More supply, he says, will correct a market that has passed by many average families.

“Stop strangling the middle class,” was the headline in a clever full-page ad in the Toronto Sun on Tuesday. Placed by a group called the Conservative Values of Canada (CVC), it featured a cartoon of Premier Kathleen Wynne pulling a green belt around the GTA middle class.

“Premier Wynne is purposely driving house prices out of reach of middle-class families,” it stated. “In 2005, the Liberal Party placed a 325-km green belt around the Greater Toronto Area — banning development on over 2 million acres across the top of the city.”

They have put forward a petition to open up some of the green belt to help create more supply.

(The green belt being referred to is the Oak Ridges Moraine- a handy aquifer that helps supply clean drinking water to numerous municipal wells around southern Ontari-owe and thus really ought not to be paved over! There is also the issue of how wise it is to pave over our best farmland at a time when a billion people go hungry on a daily basis- and the new LIE-beral Carbon tax is designed to PUNISH us for having vegetables and fruit shipped in from far away California! Much of our fruit and vegetables currently come from California where the long term consequences of massive irrigation are coming to a dangerous head- with water growing very difficult to get as droughts increase and costs soar-we may not get easy access to cheap food in future and may need to go back to growing our own!)

(Then of course there is also the long planned LIE-beral policy of squeezing another MILLION PEOPLE into the GTA for the sake of environmental issues. Living packed together helps reduce carbon emissions and saves on commuting costs but it is Not how most of us CHOOSE to live! Cdn Geographic Magazine and other news media have told us that people living down town often actually have a HIGHER carbon foot print than suburbanites due to increased cooling costs with all that concrete acting as a heat sink! Then there is the carbon consuming weekend flight- often hundreds of KM one way- from the concrete condo canyons to someplace green and growing- like Muskoka!)

“The social consequences are immense as young middle-class families are struggling to make ends meet,” said CVC President Charles McVety. “The average price of a single house in Toronto was $335,907 in 2005. Now the average is close to $1.5 million. Young middle-class families have little hope of buying a house thanks to Premier Kathleen Wynne and the Liberal Party.”

(Another reason for high house prices is that a house represents the LAST DECENT financial investment available to ordinary Cdns! Thanks to LIE-beral manipulation of interest rates, the return on conventional banking investments is regarded as a SICK LIE-BERAL JOKE by people trying to save for their old age- or trying to put money aside for after their jobs and industries dry up and move to Mexico or China!)

While Clayton says it’s true that in 2005, the Liberals “got out a map” and circled areas to “get as much land as possible to fall within the green zones,” building in the green belt is not even necessary.

“It’s more about the white belt — commercial lands no longer in use that could be converted.”

And building could start tomorrow.

(Or not- if NIMBY groups choose to continue complaining about mid-rise slums being built in their area- ones that will have `affordable` housing and low life types in the units. Or if govt sets other selfish priorities, such as catering to Muslim refugees who need a huge array of govt aid that will limit govt spending on other matters! And nobody wants to talk about how the Sardines will feel after being crammed onto any TTC vehicle if city planners do cram a million more people into Toronto as planned!)

(There are just too many competing needs for Socialist Silly Hall to be able to sort it all out. Throw in the total fiscal debauchery of LIE-beral spending and debt and Silly Hall is not just paralyzed- it is set forever in stone!)
 

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spilledthebeer

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Perhaps you would do better whining to the operators of the LIE-beral education centres that have left you in that vaguely semi literate state?

Or are you happy in your ignorance? I guess that is the truth!


Here is an older article illustrating what is wrong with the LIE-beral/civil service Hog alliance with its huge costs, and limited fiscal and social responsibility. With some comments of my own in brackets):

TORONTO - I can hear the phone call in my wildest imagination.

“Hello, boss, feeling a bit under the weather today. Don’t think I can make it into work today,”

There’s a pause.

“Sure, Chris. No problem. Take 11 days on full pay. When that’s finished, you can take another 120 days at 90%. Then just keep coming back for more.”

As I said, in my wildest dreams.

It doesn’t happen like that in the private sector, where insurance companies usually take over paying for short and long-term absences after the first 10 days or so of sick leave.

In the recently negotiated tentative agreement with Elementary Teachers’ Federation of Ontario (ETFO) a never-ending sick leave entitlement has been referred to arbitration. It was the stumbling block in the talks and moving it to arbitration means the government capitulated. Most arbitrations side with the union.

Right now, teachers get 11 days of sick leave at 100% of pay and 120 days at 90%. Once that’s expired, they’re required to return to the classroom for a day before starting up the process again. In the recent round of negotiations, the Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation (OSSTF) negotiated a deal that requires teachers to return to the classroom for 11 days before the sick leave process kicks in again.

(What it comes down to is that if you have not recovered after 131 days at home then you ought to been classified as disabled and unable to do the job and to be put onto unemployment insurance and/or welfare or the Ontari-owe Disability Pension deal - getting 90 percent of your solid gold salary indefinitely into the future with no limits is certainly NOT something that ordinary people get and its why civil service Hog perks are crippling our economy! Jobs for life for garbage men is another crippling cost!)

The government and school boards sought the same provision in the ETFO deal. The union balked. They want no “refresh” period whatsoever. Once one 131-day sick leave gravy train ends, teachers would simply return to the beginning and hop back on.

Then again, ETFO didn’t get $1 million in “negotiating fees,” from the government in the latest round of bargaining. And OSSTF did — so you have to wonder if that was a cash for concession quid pro quo.

By the way, some observers have accused Ontario Public School Boards’ Association President Michael Barrett of being my source for my story Tuesday, that revealed details of the perpetual sick leave plan. He was not the source. He simply confirmed details I already knew.

School boards now face an unenviable task of implementing two different contracts. The one for their secondary school teachers has very different provisions than the one for their elementary school counterparts.

This government has botched the entire education file.

The legislature passed a motion by Nepean-Carleton Tory MPP Lisa MacLeod Wednesday, calling for the auditor to probe the “negotiating fees,” paid to unions.

MacLeod said she wants to know where the money’s coming from.

“They’re saying the money is coming from savings. I would say it’s coming from classrooms,” MacLeod told reporters.

“The money that goes into this budget is 100% intended for kids in classrooms. When you look at documented payouts to unions who run attack ads against the main opposition party in the legislature, you’ve got to wonder if that’s an appropriate use of government funds.

“I think it’s a misappropriation,” she said.

(No kidding- the unholy alliance between Hogs and LIE-berals ought to be declared a GROSSLY illegal conflict if interest- as each one supports the other with votes and gravy! If a corporate CEO was caught getting govt contracts as a reward for running attack ads against LIE-berals there would be LIE-beral screams of outrage and demands for jail time for the executives and for any Conservatives who handed out gravy to corporations in exchange for those attack ads! LIE-beral hypocrisy knows no bounds!)

Education Minister Liz Sandals refused to comment on the sick leave provisions and why her government sent it to arbitration.

This government hasn’t bought peace in the classroom. They’ve made a deal with the devil — and now they’re paying for it with chaos.

(Sadly, the sick leave provisions have- as far as I know- remained unchanged- with the added bonus that LIE-berals have given up further raises in pay for the Hogs- in exchange for last ditch support for LIE-berals in the coming June 2018 provincial election in which it looks very likely that enraged voters will sweep LIE-berals away in a flood of revulsion!)

(Civil service Hogs have bargained hard with their LIE-beral allies and sold their votes dearly but recently Hogs have had to face reality- that half a loaf is better than none so they have signed 4 year deals with LIE-berals! LIE-berals have basically tied the hands of whomever forms the next govt as 75 percent of provincial revenue is spent on salaries and perks for Hogs- leaving very little fiscal wiggle room fore the new gang! And both Hogs and LIE-berals are hoping we have short memories and will have forgotten why we are mad at them in 2022 when the next election roles around!)
 

DaSleeper

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Perhaps you would do better whining to the operators of the LIE-beral education centres that have left you in that vaguely semi literate state?

Or are you happy in your ignorance? I guess that is the truth!


Here is an older article illustrating what is wrong with the LIE-beral/civil service Hog alliance with its huge costs, and limited fiscal and social responsibility. With some comments of my own in brackets):
First of all I haven't voted liberal since '75
Second, your post would be more credible and readable, if you posted a short excerpt backed up with a link to prove that that you didn't misquote like Mentalfloss is well known to do all the time...
Finally your childish habit of capitalizing LIE-beral and other words constantly plus your ranting and rambling on is not only childish and boring as hell.......
 

JLM

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Going wild on the kitchen and master bathroom is a great marketing technique, but it's highly unlikely that you'll get your money out.

On that note, the price the house accordingly (perhaps a little lower) without dropping 6 figures on renos and market it as discounted to accommodate those renos by the new buyer

Depends, generally I'd agree, probably 50% recovery is more realistic. There is the exception of course where you have an "eye sore" that just puts a buyer right off the house. For years I walked past a house 2 or 3 times a week, that was just hideous because the facia board facing the street had partly rotted away, everything else looked reasonable. They finally replaced it when they re did the roof. That repair (that could be done by anyone who could safely climb and work off a ladder) could be done for under $200 including paint. Basically a piece of 1" X 8" X 30'.
 

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Depends, generally I'd agree, probably 50% recovery is more realistic. There is the exception of course where you have an "eye sore" that just puts a buyer right off the house. For years I walked past a house 2 or 3 times a week, that was just hideous because the facia board facing the street had partly rotted away, everything else looked reasonable. They finally replaced it when they re did the roof. That repair (that could be done by anyone who could safely climb and work off a ladder) could be done for under $200 including paint. Basically a piece of 1" X 8" X 30'.

Pity the poor LIE-berals- they have nothing to say- and say it so very poorly! HAHAHAHAHA!

Once again our Ontari-owe premier McWynnty-known to some as The Great Whore because she has sold herself, her party and our future to the Hogs of civil service Working Family Coalition-has run true to form. She has been exposed LYING YET AGAIN about the REAL cost of her actions-specifically a secret payout to teachers amounting to THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS right after the last contract negotiations!

When the Whore took over as provincial LIE-beral leader she stood in front of a packed room FULL of teacher Hogs and swore she would do whatever it took to regain their trust and faith in the LIE-beral party! And she has been working on that promise ever since-while destroying the Ontari-owe economy with crippling taxes and all manner of fiscal madness!

Former premier McGinty recognized that Hog entitlements were crippling our province and so he moved to reduce the gravy train for teachers by imposing contracts on them. The resulting Hog response was so angry that McGinty QUIT politics and left the field open for the Whore-and she has been doing her best to honour her promise-especially since LIE-berals CANNOT be elected UNLESS they BUY sufficient HOG votes to overcome the revulsion that ordinary people have for LIE-berals! So she has been feeding the Hogs money any way she can.

She handed out millions for union executives so they would not run out of beer and wine and pizza and other treats while they plotted to screw tax payers in the latest contracts. And you know the Hogs did not pinch pennies on hotel accommodation either! High class all the way-courtesy of tax payers as well! And the Whore tried to lie about how much money she had given and got caught out on two million in payments and now we have news of this latest 300 million dollar payout that she also tried to keep secret!

Its now clear that she really WILL-JUST AS SHE PROMISED- do anything for Hog support and this is hugely significant in view of the hundreds of millions of dollars in deferred pension payments that were promised by LIE-berals to Hog unions. Virtually ALL defined benefit pension plans in this country-and this includes ALL Hogs, along with CAW workers and assorted college and university pension plans-all the BEST plans-are in serious danger of going bankrupt! Hog greed is so great that govt cannot shovel money into their pensions fast enough to keep them afloat! OSSTF-the Ontari-owe high school teachers routinely get 20 to 25 PERCENT return on their investments and its still NOT ENOUGH!

According to the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF high school teachers pension management fund they will be owed something like FIFTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in back payments by about 2018! With hundreds of billions more owed to the other 18 civil service unions and LIE-berals have also sworn to bail out CAW auto worker pensions as well-if necessary!

So our Whore is in the process of selling off anything and everything to get money for her political support group of Hogs. She will be selling off more of Ontari-owe Hydro-converting a regular money maker for the province into a long term liability in exchange for a ONE time payment and the legal ability to LOCK UP HYDRO BOOKS-NO NEED FOR public auditors to take a look! Her desire for secrecy is so HUGE that she has ALREADY made sure that Hydor workers will NOT be named on the `sunshine list`! That`s right, we peons have NO NEED (in LIE-beral opinion0 to know what is happening at Hydro-in spite of govt continuing to own a majority share of this HUGE monopoly service! Apparently LIE-berals have forgotten that democratic govts USUALLY regulate a monopoly heavily!

The Whore will (if she gets away with this crap-have converted all of our electrical system into a giant LIE-beral slush fund that she can dip into when needed to reward friends and allies while we peons pay HUGE bucks for the most grossly expensive electricity in North America!

The Whore carbon tax scheme-not yet implemented-is a similar SCAM! It wont clear the air and we HAVE the proof already. The Whore plan is a carbon copy of the European plan that has done NOTHING for the environment but it has done WONDERS for giving govts and their pals HUGE windfall profits. The European plan has also benefitted stock market players and organized crime figures. Its worth pointing out that the CONVICTED THIEVES at ENRON were very excited about a carbon tax and they expected to make a fiscal KILLING if one were implemented! You HAVE TO KNOW that if its good for ENRON then its BAD for the rest of us-and our Great Whore wants into that game!

And our Whore wants to implement a made in Ontari-owe pension plan for us and plans to `invest` the money she has beaten out of our hides into `infrastructure` ideas and this has to be the biggest slush fund of all. When money is invested -the owners of the money NORMALLY EXPECT a return on investment-in other words, the investor ends up with MORE money paid out in the form of interest and dividends. The only way our Whore can pay us interest or dividends on her pension/slush fund scheme i s by letting transit fares and water/sewer rates and electrical costs SOAR hugely; or by raiding other slush funds to provide interest.

Our Whore is creating a classic Ponzi scheme in which she and her LIE-beral successors will decide HOW MUCH of OUR MONEY they FEEL LIKE GIVING BACK at some future date-they will control all the books and all the information and dole it out IF they feel like it. Considering how forthcoming LIE-berals were about ORNG, E-health, the gas plants, the MARS building fiasco and the assorted payments they have been caught making to teachers, past behaviour suggests its not likely we will see full and honest disclosure of our pension money affairs. Considering that NOBODY will get a PENNY of Ontari-owe pension money until AFTER they have paid in for FORTY YEARS-yes that’s right-NO PAYOUT TO ANYBODY FOR FORTY YEARS- means they have FOUR DECADES to bury evidence and erase hard drives and etc! Who knows what money will be available in forty years?

Conventional investors revue the income of a company and decide based on financial track records where to put their money-and the company books are clear and open to investors. Further a regular company has a mandate to produce a profit. This is not the case with The Toronto Transit Commission, Water and Sewer Departments and electrical generating facilities-they are NOT conventional business entities and their costs are largely dictated by political choices. And as we have seen, LIE-beral govt considers the support of the unions operating the various departments-Water, Sewers, Electrical, Transit to be ESSENTIAL to LIE-beral political survival so the FIX is in-our pension money will become a giant slush fund to dip into whenever Hog votes need purchasing-and LIE-berals will insist that it is legitimate-after all company operating costs are legitimate deductions from investor profits! Too bad LIE-berals IGNORE the reality of a business monopoly normally being FORCED to operate according to a higher and more regulated and more open and ethical standard.

So we can expect that much of OUR pension money will be `lost` so to speak-mingled into regular revenue streams and spent where LIE-berals consider necessary-and their definition of what is necessary will only apply to what is best-FOR THEM! And if much of the pension cash disappears into our off the books-no auditors need to have a look- HYDRO system then NOBODY will ever know what happened to the money!