The Four Terrible Things That Are Destroying Boys In Our Culture

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spilledthebeer

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petros said:
Just some lady with hats.
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Here is yet another article illustrating delusional LIE-beral thinking. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ontario Grade 10 students to be taught financial and digital literacy

Canadian Press. Published: November 3, 2017. Updated: November 3, 2017 11:58 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario




TORONTO </W> Grade 10 students in Ontario will be learning about financial and digital literacy, starting next year. Education Minister Mitzie Hunter announced the changes today to the career
studies course.

The new course includes budgeting and financial management, as well as career
pathway planning, entrepreneurship and digital literacy.

(HAHAHAHA! HUGELY FUNNY! LIE-berals will teach kids about money? The people who insist they have “balanced” our provincial budget this year-2018? The people who have been caught out repeatedly using accounting methods NEVER TAUGHT at any reputable school of business? HAHAHAHA!)

Hunter says it will give students the skills they need to succeed.

The changes stem from 29 pilot projects that were held across the province, and the government says it incorporated feedback in announcing the enhancement of the career studies course.

(Hunter is DREAMING- in technicolour! LIE-berals will NOT be teaching kids anything about debt- otherwise they would have to answer UGLY questions about how long and how many generations it will take to deal with our current LIE-beral created debt! And LIE-berals would also be facing nasty kid questions about why civil service union Hogs are ENTITLED to invest TWICE as much money tax free in pensions as ordinary people! And there would be questions about inflation as well- such as LIE-berals telling us how good it would be to start saving for old age when you are young- by forgoing home ownership or holidays and etc- LIE-berals point out that if you start saving at age 25 then with the miracle of compound interest you can have a million dollars by age 65- LIE-berals go on to tell us that at current rates you will get a return on investment of $40,000.00 per year- BUT- LIE-berals neglect to tell us that $40 grand will be what we live on FOR A WEEK in 40 years- thanks to LIE-beral debts and mad spending entitlements!)

(LIE-berals are “POFF`s”- the Party Offering Foolish Fakery in all matters related to economics and immigration and national security!)

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Vbeacher

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Tecumsehsbones said:
Bullshit. The lecture-and-regurgitate format was designed when schools were all-boy, and hasn't significantly changed.
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Yes. And No. It was established with all-boy schools. But those schools were places of tightly enforced discipline (which is good for boys, who tend to lack discipline) and also fostered a competitive environment which boys prefer. The discipline is now gone, leaving teachers befuddled about how to handle boys.

Nor is it all 'lecture and regurgitate', especially in younger grades. The system is set up for cooperative learning, and most of the teachers are women (they were once mostly men), and they don't know how to handle boys who are, as the article points out 'rambunctious'. The system punishes students for that sort of thing, and pretty much bans the sort of rowdiness which comes naturally to boys, in or out of the class. Thus boys who won't sit and listen, and who cannot be disciplined because today's schools lack any ability to discipline boisterous boys, get drugged instead.

It's also true that in the media and popular culture, the focus on improper male behaviour has been intense. Note. No one talks about improper female behaviour. It's all focused on criticizing males who don't, well, act like girls. Males who are too competitive, too aggressive, too bossy or pushy, who value strength, both physical and mental, and winning, rather than being gentle, sensitive and letting their emotions show. Instinct tells men they should be protectors, particularly of women, yet society says women are equal, and they have to be cops, firefighters and soldiers too (even if they're mostly not very good at it).
 
White_Unifier

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Vbeacher said:
Yes. And No. It was established with all-boy schools. But those schools were places of tightly enforced discipline (which is good for boys, who tend to lack discipline) and also fostered a competitive environment which boys prefer. The discipline is now gone, leaving teachers befuddled about how to handle boys.

Nor is it all 'lecture and regurgitate', especially in younger grades. The system is set up for cooperative learning, and most of the teachers are women (they were once mostly men), and they don't know how to handle boys who are, as the article points out 'rambunctious'. The system punishes students for that sort of thing, and pretty much bans the sort of rowdiness which comes naturally to boys, in or out of the class. Thus boys who won't sit and listen, and who cannot be disciplined because today's schools lack any ability to discipline boisterous boys, get drugged instead.

It's also true that in the media and popular culture, the focus on improper male behaviour has been intense. Note. No one talks about improper female behaviour. It's all focused on criticizing males who don't, well, act like girls. Males who are too competitive, too aggressive, too bossy or pushy, who value strength, both physical and mental, and winning, rather than being gentle, sensitive and letting their emotions show. Instinct tells men they should be protectors, particularly of women, yet society says women are equal, and they have to be cops, firefighters and soldiers too (even if they're mostly not very good at it).
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I think there's some prejudicial presumption going on there. I've never been particularly competitive, or at least not to an extreme. I tended to prefer to just work on my own or with others, but seldom in competition with them.

That said, I definitely appreciated positive discipline. I don't mean the draconian kind, but yes, positive discipline did serve me well.

That said, I do agree that the demonization of boys and men today is not a good thing at all. Women might continue to suffer discrimination to a degree, but let's not simplify or exaggerate it. Men can face discrimination and prejudice too, and nowadays maybe even almost as much. And discrimination against women and girls has declined much over the years. I'm not saying there's not more work to be done, but just that it's not as bad as feminists make it out to be.
 
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White_Unifier said:
I think there's some prejudicial presumption going on there. I've never been particularly competitive, or at least not to an extreme. I tended to prefer to just work on my own or with others, but seldom in competition with them.

That said, I definitely appreciated positive discipline. I don't mean the draconian kind, but yes, positive discipline did serve me well.

That said, I do agree that the demonization of boys and men today is not a good thing at all. Women might continue to suffer discrimination to a degree, but let's not simplify or exaggerate it. Men can face discrimination and prejudice too, and nowadays maybe even almost as much. And discrimination against women and girls has declined much over the years. I'm not saying there's not more work to be done, but just that it's not as bad as feminists make it out to be.
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I agree while I think that the discrimination has swung or is swinging the other way for men.


JMHO
 
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