The fear of the Lord is the beginning of the wisdom

[Motar]

And what is even more bigger wisdom is that, that love your neighbour, as yourself, have love for everyone. That is the most biggest wisdom. Amen.

Absolutely, Mikko.

"If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love." (1 Corinthians 13:1-13 NIV)

 

[Cliffy]

Never could figure out why people need a lord and master. Seems to me to be about lack of self confidence and/or self esteem.

 

[darkbeaver]

Your lord and master dwells within, exoterics are all sins.

 

[Twila]

Never could figure out why people need a lord and master. Seems to me to be about lack of self confidence and/or self esteem.

It's the father figure thing. Some people are able to be their own boss and some people are not. Some need the threat of punishment in order to do the right thing. Some do not.

 

[B00Mer]

50 Reasons why religion sucks

1) There are too many religions, how does a believer know he picked the right one?
2) Offers religious people the wrong understanding of the world they live in
3) Has caused many wars
4) Further separates and classifies people
5) Full of contradictions
6) No proof other than the inability to disprove
7) Does not agree with science
8) Disrespects the hard work of the scientific community
9) Religious claims have yet to have scientific backing
10) People do not need religion to have morals (ex: learn to respect others, not kill or steal)
11) Waste of time
12) Waste of money
13) Waste of space
14) Wasted of lives
15) All churches would be better off being shelter for poor people
16) Religion unites people for the wrong reasons
17) Leaders often times use religion to bring their people to their sides
18) Most religions are outdated and lack any historical backing
19) No scientific or supernatural occurrences have been discovered yet
20) Religions change and evolve overtime depending on the general populations beliefs
21) Does not explain life before life
22) No way to know what comes after death
23) Easily accepted by naïve people
24) Religions do not respect each other
25) Religion does not make people more comfortable
26) Religions are corrupt in many levels
27) Though different in names, most major religions are all similar, somewhat proving that they really come from the same source
28) If god knows the future then there is no free will
29) Has caused hate crimes
30) Heavily religious countries have not shown to be “better” off
31) Discriminates against free thinkers
32) Discriminates against harmless people with different beliefs and sexual orientations
33) Can give probable cause for anyone to do anything “I slit her throat because god told me to”
34) Many animals have been killed due to religious sacrifices
35) Does not disprove atheism legitimately
36) Operates on scaring believers by using places like hell and eternal punishment to keep them in line
37) Many people have been killed due to religious sacrifices
38) Religions are taught in schools as fact
39) Many children are raised religious at a young age without a choice to reason and choose what they want to believe
40) Prayers have yet to have been proven to be effective
41) No “miracles” have been documented
42) Religion does not offer a valid explanation of the world around us
43) Religion confuses people
44) Some religions do not allow its believers to question their faith
45) Religion requires blind faith
46) Religion is not the cause for technological advancements, in fact, it only slows it down
47) Older religions have trouble accounting for new scientific discoveries that directly contracting the religion
48) God has yet to show up and give us an update on wtf is going on
49) Things such as guardian angels, reincarnation, resurrection have yet to have been proven or witnessed
50) Even the most religious people tend to mourn and fear death, despite the fact that heaven appears to be a very nice place – contradiction?

 

[Walter]

Never could figure out why people need a lord and master. Seems to me to be about lack of self confidence and/or self esteem.

Takes a lot of intelligence and humility to realize that there is something more powerful than humans.

 

[Twila]

Takes a lot of intelligence and humility to realize that there is something more powerful than humans.

no, it takes blind faith. Humans invented god(s)We have proof of humans, we have no proof of god(s)

 

[lone wolf]

I met the "reverent awe" thing years ago - along with shames and sins for things people just sort of ... DO. I guess, if one can beat himself into desperation a few times and survive, you get wise enough to think. "Reverent awe" doesn't grow unquestioned.

 

[darkbeaver]

no, it takes blind faith. Humans invented god(s)We have proof of humans, we have no proof of god(s)

I'll argue that. I know you don't think humans invented humming birds or fish,so how could we invent the gods?
I won't even mention apples, mountains or the seas. Oh my I little white lied.

 

[MHz]

BruSan, have you checked your toast lately? I hear he likes to appear on toast...

It will come from the direction of the fire rather than coming from inside the bread slice.

Don't fear what you can't see and only a few things you can see. That doesn't stop you from being grouped and saved according to that grouping. It's you that will be disappointed at being in the last group gathered.

Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.

 

[Twila]

I'll argue that. I know you don't think humans invented humming birds or fish,so how could we invent the gods?
I won't even mention apples, mountains or the seas. Oh my I little white lied.

I don't think humans invented hummingbirds. I do think humans invented god(s).

It will come from the direction of the fire rather than coming from inside the bread slice.

Don't fear what you can't see and only a few things you can see. That doesn't stop you from being grouped and saved according to that grouping. It's you that will be disappointed at being in the last group gathered.

Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.

I don't believe in God. I won't be disappointed. I won't be be anything. The dead know nothing.

 

[Spade]

Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
-Marx
No one has said it better.

 

[MHz]

I won't be disappointed. I won't be be anything. The dead know nothing.

You peeked
Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.

Job:14:10-15:
But man dieth,
and wasteth away:
yea,
man giveth up the ghost,
and where is he?
As the waters fail from the sea,
and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
So man lieth down,
and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
If a man die,
shall he live again?
all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
Thou shalt call,
and I will answer thee:
thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.

You can't wear the title 'God of the Living' if only a portion are saved so if any are saved all of mankind is saved. You don't have to believe to understand what a few words are saying.

 

[talloola]

I'll argue that. I know you don't think humans invented humming birds or fish,so how could we invent the gods?
I won't even mention apples, mountains or the seas. Oh my I little white lied.

we can see hummingbirds and fish, no one has ever seen a god.

 

[Corduroy]

Takes a lot of intelligence and humility to realize that there is something more powerful than humans.

Do you think you have the intelligence and humility to realize there is something more powerful than humans?

 

[darkbeaver]

we can see hummingbirds and fish, no one has ever seen a god.

I've never seen gravity either.

Ever see love or an idea?

 

[talloola]

I've never seen gravity either.


Ever see love or an idea?

can certainly feel gravity, just try walking off a building.

love is an emotion, an idea is a thought, don't see any connections in anything you have suggested.

 

[Praxius]

Greetings to all,

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of the wisdom. Always serve the Lord with fear and rejoice him with trembling.

Today I in Lord Jesus Christ want to exhort you all, that you take this wisdom, and become wise at it, because without that wisdom, we do not have wisdom at all ourselves, but carelessness.

So walk always this great wisdom in your heart, so that you do not get lost from him which is the Life.

Exhort from

Mikko Ainasoja

Lord Jesus Christ and God's servant

This writing is a edited copy, for all peoples

Yes.... of all of the things Jesus taught people, turning of the cheek, all the forgiveness and all the merciful and kind things he has done during his lifetime, out of all of that, one must fear him and tremble on one's knees to avoid his wrath.

What Christianity are you following?

Praise Allah.... I mean Jesus.

You're not really spreading much wisdom.

"Be scared sh*tless of the one you worship and you will be wise because he's an evil and hateful fk'er who's going to punish you regardless and send you to hell for all eternity."

Thanks for that little nugget, my life is now complete. :roll:

I not even Christian anymore and even I know this is crap thinking/teaching.

 

[darkbeaver]

can certainly feel gravity, just try walking off a building.

love is an emotion, an idea is a thought, don't see any connections in anything you have suggested.

You can feel things you cannot see though. God is simply the central force of the universe. The connection between butterflys and sunshine.

 

[Walter]

no, it takes blind faith. Humans invented god(s)We have proof of humans, we have no proof of god(s)

John 20:29