The Extinction of Retirement

[coldstream]

Are they ALL bad? :smile:

They are all slime, there are those insiders who are setting agenda, and there are those who just follow orders, like our esteemed PM Harper. But as we established in the Nuremburg Tribunals, just 'following orders' is not an excuse. Whether you are the Devil, or just one of his minions, does not change your destiny.

 

[CUBert]

Ridiculous hours?????????? Maybe a few! Most I know work 40 hours or less.

Hunter-gatherer

Since the 1960s, the consensus among anthropologists, historians and sociologists has been that early hunter-gatherer societies enjoyed more leisure time than is permitted by capitalist and agrarian societies;[1][2] For instance, one camp of !Kung Bushmen was estimated to work two-and-a-half days per week, at around 6 hours a day.[3] Aggregated comparisons show that on average the working day was less than five hours.[1]
Subsequent studies in 1970s examined the Machiguenga of the Upper Amazon and the Kayapo of Northern Brazil. These studies expanded the definition of work beyond purely hunting-gathering activities, but the overall average across the hunter-gatherer societies he studied was still below 4.86, while the maximum was below 8 hours.[1] Popular perception is still aligned with the old academic consensus.[2]

 

[petros]

Does it say how many hours the Kung Bushwomen put in per week?

 

[JLM]

Does it say how many hours the Kung Bushwomen put in per week?

Maybe their role is just keeping the man happy. :lol:

 

[petros]

Maybe their role is just keeping the man happy. :lol:

That's a full time job and endless hours of OT.

 

[taxslave]

Hunter-gatherer

Since the 1960s, the consensus among anthropologists, historians and sociologists has been that early hunter-gatherer societies enjoyed more leisure time than is permitted by capitalist and agrarian societies;[1][2] For instance, one camp of !Kung Bushmen was estimated to work two-and-a-half days per week, at around 6 hours a day.[3] Aggregated comparisons show that on average the working day was less than five hours.[1]
Subsequent studies in 1970s examined the Machiguenga of the Upper Amazon and the Kayapo of Northern Brazil. These studies expanded the definition of work beyond purely hunting-gathering activities, but the overall average across the hunter-gatherer societies he studied was still below 4.86, while the maximum was below 8 hours.[1] Popular perception is still aligned with the old academic consensus.[2]

Depends entirely on what you expect out of life. I consider anyone that does not want to work more than 40 hrs a week as lazy and a freeloader. Government employees want 30 hr weeks but 50 hrs pay plus bennies. To be fair the fewer hours they work the less damage they do and the less tax dollars they squander.

 

[captain morgan]

what is the best forest to live in?

The magical forest where Grandma lives... You can pretend that you're little-red-riding-CUBert and frolic in the woods without a care.

where's the correlation between rising costs of living, working more hours than anywhere in the world

Boy, thanks for the deciphering the hidden message in telling us all that as the cost of living increases, you need more money to sustain your current level of needs.. That must have been an extremely complicated statistical model that you came up with.

Look at Greece. Pensions and promises that people accepted in trade for a lifetime of effort vanished in an instant. NOTHING is safe in Global Free Market paradigm. Not pensions, not health care, not employment is safe in voracious claws of greed of the Global Investment Organism that rules the world.

You are merely collateral damage, in achieving utterly grotesque and unspendable wealth for Wall and Bay Street vultures. The word vultures is probably unfair, since these are noble birds of carrion who keep the hinterlands clean. There is nothing noble or clean about the slime that rules world Finance. We've sold ourselves out the Devil.

How come no mention that those pensions and high levels of social services were unsustainable to begin with?

Fact of the matter is that the Greek's costs to deliver all of the entitled services exceeded their ability to pay for it. When that became apparent, they took out loans from the various banking groups to pour vast amounts of money into a system that they knew that they could not sustain.. Don't blame anyone else but the people that bankrupted themselves through their own greed and willful blindness.

 

[Cliffy]

Are they ALL bad? :smile:

Yes.

People need to differentiate between what they need and what they want. I would estimate that 90% of what they think they need has been hammered into their heads by advertising and peer and parental pressure. I moved to the bush because I saw the writing on the wall and wanted to learn to live on as little money as possible. I did not want to contribute to the wanton destruction of our planet and to be involved in the processes of life (fetch water, gather food and chop wood).

 

[JLM]

Yes.

Time you treated yourself to an ice cream cone, Cliff- it might improve your outlook! :lol:

 

[Cliffy]

Time you treated yourself to an ice cream cone, Cliff- it might improve your outlook! :lol:

I have a very positive outlook. I see all this insanity coming to a screeching halt in the not too distant future.

And yes, I hear a mint/chocolate chip ice cream on a waffle cone calling my name across the street.

 

[damngrumpy]

The destruction of personal finances was brought about by greed and corporate mismanagement.
Banks and lenders didn't care about people, the country or their own future, they cared about the
concept of unregulated profit. The ordinary people who work for a living never questioned the
government or their leadership in society at any level. They cashed in their chips on the endless
gambling wheel of real estate profit, and other opportunities believing the gravy train would never
end. It has always collapsed before and this time was no different, its just that there were more
greedy people willing to gamble this time and they got burned. If you play the game there is a
sacrifice if you lose and lose they did.
The only thing that burns me is they lent or gave the big corporations money to keep going without
restrictions on how the money was spent. There should have been more restrictions and some
touch new guidelines and regulations to prevent the greedy from double dipping, or profiting personally
from the problem the created. Bring back tough regulations.

 

[Bar Sinister]

I doubt it's a "law".

She problabaly didn't read her contract.

It's a good idea to read those.

There is nothing stoppping her from working at oodles of other facilities all across the globe if she applies.

Guess you better tell the Supreme Court that. But I know what you mean about other jobs. Somehow, however, working at MacDonald's doesn't seem to equate with this woman's credentials.

 

[YukonJack]

Sounds good, I'll just watch a few more episodes of Survivorman and I should be ready to take on mother nature.

And, as usual, you WILL lose.

 

[JLM]

And, as usual, you WILL lose.

You're talking like he's a chronic loser! :lol:

 

[YukonJack]

You're talking like he's a chronic loser! :lol:

Well, isn't he? Show me a single thread on this forum when he came out otherwise.

Except, of course, giving negative reps to his superiors.

 

[JLM]

Well, isn't he? Show me a single thread on this forum when he came out otherwise.

Except, of course, giving negative reps to his superiors.

Maybe today is the the day he will see "the light". :smile:

 

[petros]

Guess you better tell the Supreme Court that. But I know what you mean about other jobs. Somehow, however, working at MacDonald's doesn't seem to equate with this woman's credentials.

A contract is a contract. Once they are done they are done. If she didn't know what the **** she was signing then she is a piss poor researcher then isn't she? If she can miss basic details like that then I wouldn't want her on staff.