The Extinction of Retirement

[JLM]

There is no law demanding you stop working at 65 nor is there a law that says you have to tell your employer how old you are.

If you want to work, work.

If you don't you may be "cutting your nose off to spite your face". :lol:

And, I'm pretty sure they can retire early if they want to. It's not slavery.

If you are under 55 you could be hit with a penalty, best to check first. :smile:

I had real parents. I started working when I was 5.

Nothing stopping them from collecting and working.

That was the age at which I got my first hatchet- my job was to keep the kindling box full.....................for two bits a week! :lol:

 

[petros]

If you don't you may be "cutting your nose off to spite your face".

If you are under 55 you could be hit with a penalty, best to check first. :icon_smile:


:lol:

Why? And there are no penalties for retiring early but there are if you've been sucking the RRSP tit.

 

[Nuggler]

:-(..........Jeez, if things really get rough, where's the best place in Ontario to winter in a cardboard box??

If I have to do it, I'll probably be in the majority.

If all this comes to be, fukkin G20 gestapo ain't seen nothin!! Might give the ol' deep-seated Canadian apathy a kick in the ass, eh wot!

..............All this at, say, age 90................mehhhhhhhhhh, probably not.:dontknow:

 

[Cliffy]

:-(..........Jeez, if things really get rough, where's the best place in Ontario to winter in a cardboard box??

If I have to do it, I'll probably be in the majority.

If all this comes to be, fukkin G20 gestapo ain't seen nothin!! Might give the ol' deep-seated Canadian apathy a kick in the ass, eh wot!

..............All this at, say, age 90................mehhhhhhhhhh, probably not.:dontknow:

You only have to live in a cardboard box if you chose to live in a city. A person can easily and cheaply build a shelter in the forest if they can get over their fears of Mamma Nature. This country was built on squatting and there is provision in the BNA for peaceful occupation if a person is so inclined. I did it for ten years on next to nothing and lived quite comfortably. When you become familiar with nature, she is a good provider.

 

[taxslave]

Yeah while we're working longer hours than ever before and less money and less benefits let's raise the retirement age now too, we're not big enough slaves imo. Let's raise it the retirement age to 90.

I agree. No one should be forced to retire if they are still willing to work. It is the stopping work that will kill you.

Cliffy, i find your comment about retiring at 26 intriguing. Please share more with us, i would be very interested in learning and adapting your strategy on that one.

If you have alot tosay, why not start a new thread, this is good stuff. Thanks in advance

Welfare?

I tried early retirement . Worst 20 minutes of my life.

 

[JLM]

I agree. No one should be forced to retire if they are still willing to work. It is the stopping work that will kill you.

Yes and no. As long as you can substitute other interests for work you'll be all right. Activity is what keeps you alive. :smile:

Why? And there are no penalties for retiring early but there are if you've been sucking the RRSP tit.

I'm not sure if it's a "penalty" or not, but if you retire after 35 years service on the B.C. Gov't superannuation plan before attaining the age of 55, I'm pretty sure you have to wait until you do reach 55 before you can start drawing the pension. (correct me if I'm out of date)

The best 12 years of mine. :smile:

 

[taxslave]

Yes and no. As long as you can substitute other interests for work you'll be all right. Activity is what keeps you alive. :smile:



I'm not sure if it's a "penalty" or not, but if you retire after 35 years service on the B.C. Gov't superannuation plan before attaining the age of 55, I'm pretty sure you have to wait until you do reach 55 before you can start drawing the pension. (correct me if I'm out of date)



The best 12 years of mine. :smile:

Yea basically I like what I do. I play with big toys in a big sandbox cause I haven't figured out what I want to be if I grow up. I recently downsized the toys I get to play with but am also home every night now. I play firefighter for entertainment.

 

[Bar Sinister]

There is no law demanding you stop working at 65 nor is there a law that says you have to tell your employer how old you are.

If you want to work, work.

Unfortunately, in Alberta there is such a law.

U of A rethinks policy on mandatory retirement

At least there used to be. Please correct me if the policy has been amended.

 

[petros]

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I'm not sure if it's a "penalty" or not, but if you retire after 35 years service on the B.C. Gov't superannuation plan before attaining the age of 55, I'm pretty sure you have to wait until you do reach 55 before you can start drawing the pension. (correct me if I'm out of date)

That would be retiring at 53 right?

Unfortunately, in Alberta there is such a law.

U of A rethinks policy on mandatory retirement

At least there used to be. Please correct me if the policy has been amended.

I doubt it's a "law".

She problabaly didn't read her contract.

It's a good idea to read those.

There is nothing stoppping her from working at oodles of other facilities all across the globe if she applies.

 

[Nuggler]

You only have to live in a cardboard box if you chose to live in a city. A person can easily and cheaply build a shelter in the forest if they can get over their fears of Mamma Nature. This country was built on squatting and there is provision in the BNA for peaceful occupation if a person is so inclined. I did it for ten years on next to nothing and lived quite comfortably. When you become familiar with nature, she is a good provider.

..........been there.

 

[CUBert]

Ok then, stop working.... You can live in a cardboard box and dumpster-dive for food just to spite society.

That'll show 'em!

yeah it will, you can't have a functioning economy when everyone is homeless :lol:

 

[captain morgan]

yeah it will, you can't have a functioning economy when everyone is homeless :lol:

Your economy is already too far gone if "everybody" was that ill prepared for retirement to begin with.

Fer cryin' out loud man; is there any room in your belief system for personally responsibility or self-determination?

 

[CUBert]

what does have to do with making everyone work like slaves and raising the retirement age?
we're a profoundly sick society, because we're working ridiculous hours for **** wages as cost of living increases.

depression and suicide both high in the western world

 

[captain morgan]

Does someone have a gun to your head? Is this like a forced-march-or-die scenario?.. Nope, I don't think so.

What is overtly disturbing with your diatribe is that you appear to be absolving yourself and society from assuming any form of personal responsibility and downloading it squarely onto the shoulders of those that did assume that responsibility. What's more, you are also insinuating that it is the obligation of "someone else" to be the custodian of your well-being.

Here's a newsflash for ya just in case you weren't taught this as a child or didn't get the memo: The only person that will look after your own best interests is yourself... If you don't have the basic common sense to figure this out, then you are voluntarily electing to be a victim all your life.

 

[CUBert]

You only have to live in a cardboard box if you chose to live in a city. A person can easily and cheaply build a shelter in the forest if they can get over their fears of Mamma Nature. This country was built on squatting and there is provision in the BNA for peaceful occupation if a person is so inclined. I did it for ten years on next to nothing and lived quite comfortably. When you become familiar with nature, she is a good provider.

what is the best forest to live in?

Does someone have a gun to your head? Is this like a forced-march-or-die scenario?.. Nope, I don't think so.

What is overtly disturbing with your diatribe is that you appear to be absolving yourself and society from assuming any form of personal responsibility and downloading it squarely onto the shoulders of those that did assume that responsibility. What's more, you are also insinuating that it is the obligation of "someone else" to be the custodian of your well-being.

Here's a newsflash for ya just in case you weren't taught this as a child or didn't get the memo: The only person that will look after your own best interests is yourself... If you don't have the basic common sense to figure this out, then you are voluntarily electing to be a victim all your life.

wow, these rambling lines of idiocy has nothing to do with anything ... where's the correlation between rising costs of living, working more hours than anywhere in the world, having high levels of depression and suicide have anything to do with personal responsibility?
for what it's worth i agree no one is going to look out for my interests but myself, you're just a little off topic.

 

[petros]

what is the best forest to live in?




wow, these rambling lines of idiocy has nothing to do with anything ... where's the correlation between rising costs of living, working more hours than anywhere in the world, having high levels of depression and suicide have anything to do with personal responsibility?
for what it's worth i agree no one is going to look out for my interests but myself, you're just a little off topic.

Wildcat Hill


Wildcat Hill is a 2,500 ft / 762 m mountain peak near Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan, Canada. Based on peakery data, it ranks as the 18th highest mountain in Saskatchewan and the 8505th highest mountain in Canada. The nearest peaks are Pasquia Hills, Brockelbank Hill, Spirit Mountain, Porcupine Hills, Porcupine Hills, and The Big Rock.. See the Wildcat Hill map, 3D fly around, and the Wildcat Hill photos to get a better sense of the mountain.

Wildcat Hill - Saskatchewan, Canada • peakery

It's a killed or be killed type of place.

Have fun.

 

[JLM]

what does have to do with making everyone work like slaves and raising the retirement age?
we're a profoundly sick society, because we're working ridiculous hours for **** wages as cost of living increases.

depression and suicide both high in the western world

Ridiculous hours?????????? Maybe a few! Most I know work 40 hours or less.

 

[coldstream]

Look at Greece. Pensions and promises that people accepted in trade for a lifetime of effort vanished in an instant. NOTHING is safe in Global Free Market paradigm. Not pensions, not health care, not employment is safe in voracious claws of greed of the Global Investment Organism that rules the world.

You are merely collateral damage, in achieving utterly grotesque and unspendable wealth for Wall and Bay Street vultures. The word vultures is probably unfair, since these are noble birds of carrion who keep the hinterlands clean. There is nothing noble or clean about the slime that rules world Finance. We've sold ourselves out the Devil.

 

[JLM]

Look at Greece. Pensions and promises that people accepted in trade for a lifetime of effort vanished in an instant. NOTHING is safe in Global Free Market paradigm. Not pensions, not health care, not employment is safe in claws of the Global Investment Organism that rules the world. You are merely collateral damage, in achieving utterly unspendable wealth for Wall and Bay Street vultures. The word vultures is probably unfair, since these are noble birds of carrion who keep the hinterlands clean. There is nothing noble or clean about the slime that rules world Finance. We've sold ourselves out the Devil.

Are they ALL bad? :smile:

 

[CUBert]

Wildcat Hill


Wildcat Hill is a 2,500 ft / 762 m mountain peak near Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan, Canada. Based on peakery data, it ranks as the 18th highest mountain in Saskatchewan and the 8505th highest mountain in Canada. The nearest peaks are Pasquia Hills, Brockelbank Hill, Spirit Mountain, Porcupine Hills, Porcupine Hills, and The Big Rock.. See the Wildcat Hill map, 3D fly around, and the Wildcat Hill photos to get a better sense of the mountain.

Wildcat Hill - Saskatchewan, Canada • peakery

It's a killed or be killed type of place.

Have fun.

Sounds good, I'll just watch a few more episodes of Survivorman and I should be ready to take on mother nature.