The End of the World is Coming

damngrumpy

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JLM how can you expect the Christians to jump in, they are all looking for work because
the world didn't end. Christians to be fair don't all think like the great mathematician who
made his prediction. In fact such a prediction is not Christian at all as Christ said no one
knows the time or the hour, and I will come like a thief in the night.
I think Christ has not come back because the people of mother earth are a great sence
of comic relief.
 

JLM

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JLM how can you expect the Christians to jump in, they are all looking for work because
the world didn't end. Christians to be fair don't all think like the great mathematician who
made his prediction. In fact such a prediction is not Christian at all as Christ said no one
knows the time or the hour, and I will come like a thief in the night.
I think Christ has not come back because the people of mother earth are a great sence
of comic relief.

Work?????????? I thought they lived on manna! :smile:
 

eanassir

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Doomsday is inevitable

As the earth and the planets in addition to the sun have a birth, they must have death.
Death is the inevitable end of all material objects, whether samll or large, living or non-living.

So the Sun is now getting old, and the earth also had its long life, and will pass throught the changes that occurred in Mercury and Venus.

But Doomsday timing is unknown: the hour of Doom is unknown: when it will settle.

So when Prophet Mohammed came and told people about Doomsday which is the great and dreadful day of God that is stated by all the prophets and apostles; then some of Jews in the city of Medina said to each other: Let us go and ask Mohammed about Doomsday: when will it occur; so if he tells us about its timing, then he is a liar; but if he says: I don't know, then he may be truthful!

When they asked the Prophet, he said: I don't know: God did not inform me about its timing; but anyhow it is getting nearer and nearer;

then the Jews looked to each other and said to each other: Certainly Mohammed guessed the right answer and he was acquainted about that.

Therefore this aya 7: 187 was revealed, which denote: To God their question was not precise: did they mean: the hour of man's death, or the hour of Doomsday, or the hour when the earth will stop its spinning.
يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ السَّاعَةِ أَيَّانَ مُرْسَاهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِندَ رَبِّي لاَ يُجَلِّيهَا لِوَقْتِهَا إِلاَّ هُوَ ثَقُلَتْ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ لاَ تَأْتِيكُمْ إِلاَّ بَغْتَةً يَسْأَلُونَكَ كَأَنَّكَ حَفِيٌّ عَنْهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِندَ اللّهِ وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لاَ يَعْلَمُونَ

The explanation:
(They question you [Mohammed] of the Hour: did they mean: the hour of their death, or the hour of Doomsday, or the hour when its portents will start? So God here answered them about the start of its portents when the earth will stop its axial rotation:

, when its settlement be? The word in Arabic indicates the settlement like the settlement of the mountains on the earth or like the anchoring of the ship in the port. And God answered them about the standstill of the earth from its spinning.

Say [Mohammed to these Jews]:the knowledge about it is with my Lord only;

none but He will manifest it with its time; God will acquaint the Mahdi about its portents how will they occur in details and the Mahdi will tell people about that.

it has been so tremendous in the heavens and the earth; It is serious in the sight of the people of the Earth as is it serious for the people of the planets; they are fearful of it, although some of them deny it.

only, all of a sudden will it come to you. God hid it from people to know who will believe and work righteous work, and who will disbelieve and work badly.

They ask you as if you have investigated about it. They said to each other: Mohammed have certainly investigated about it and known that God did not tell about its timing to any prophet.

Say:"The knowledge about it is with God only, but most of mankind know not."
Then Abu abd-Allah said: I have explained about it and its portents in details.

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Destruction and dispersion of celestial objects


 

Unforgiven

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Just a reminder, you're all dead sooner or later it's coming and there is nothing you or anyone else is going to do about it. Chances are you will be alone and if your lucky in bed. If you're really lucky with someone getting frisky with the giggles and the touchy bits.

That is all.
 

eanassir

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Just a reminder, you're all dead sooner or later it's coming and there is nothing you or anyone else is going to do about it. Chances are you will be alone and if your lucky in bed. If you're really lucky with someone getting frisky with the giggles and the touchy bits.

That is all.

No, that is not all; there will be the afterlife when man will live for millions of years with his ethereal spiritual soul, not with his material body which will decay and become dust.
Then the disbeliever will wish that he would be dust like his decayed body, but he will discover he has gone to the spirit world.
The soul after death
 

PoliticalNick

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No, that is not all; there will be the afterlife when man will live for millions of years with his ethereal spiritual soul, not with his material body which will decay and become dust.
Then the disbeliever will wish that he would be dust like his decayed body, but he will discover he has gone to the spirit world.
The soul after death

The only way you will live for a million years is to keep being recycled as worm food after you're buried. This constant renewal of the life cycle through the energy they get from you decomposing body is all you get.
 

eanassir

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The only way you will live for a million years is to keep being recycled as worm food after you're buried. This constant renewal of the life cycle through the energy they get from you decomposing body is all you get.

How do you know for certain that man is only his body not his spirit or soul which will endure forever?
Have you gone to the afterlife to see is it true or not?

This is in the Quran 78: 40
إِنَّا أَنذَرْنَاكُمْ عَذَابًا قَرِيبًا يَوْمَ يَنظُرُ الْمَرْءُ مَا قَدَّمَتْ يَدَاهُ وَيَقُولُ الْكَافِرُ يَا لَيْتَنِي كُنتُ تُرَابًا

The explanation:
(The day when [believing] man shall behold what [charity] his hands have forwarded [to the afterlife],

but the disbeliever shall say: "Would that I were dust [to get rid of the torment like my body that has become dust so it has got rid of the punishment.]")

quran-ayat.co
 
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Unforgiven

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No, that is not all; there will be the afterlife when man will live for millions of years with his ethereal spiritual soul, not with his material body which will decay and become dust.
Then the disbeliever will wish that he would be dust like his decayed body, but he will discover he has gone to the spirit world.
The soul after death

I have heaven right here right now for all my life. I'm not a bad person I am just not subservient and feel the need to accept that my life is just an insignificant part of someone else's ego trip.
 

eanassir

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You say this now that you are in a good condition, but you are ungrateful to God, and you satisfy with your worldly life and forget about the afterlife.

As in the Quran 10: 7-8

إَنَّ الَّذِينَ لاَ يَرْجُونَلِقَاءنَا وَرَضُواْ بِالْحَياةِ الدُّنْيَا وَاطْمَأَنُّواْ بِهَا وَالَّذِينَهُمْ عَنْ آيَاتِنَا غَافِلُونَ .
أُوْلَـئِكَ مَأْوَاهُمُ النُّارُ بِمَا كَانُواْيَكْسِبُونَ
The explanation:
Those who look not for the meeting with Us, and are pleased with thepresent Worldly life, and are pleased with the present Worldly life, and areassured therewith, and who are heedless of Our signs [of revelation.]
Such will have [Hell-]Fire as their refuge [on the Day of Judgment],according to what [sins] they have earned
 

PoliticalNick

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How do you know for certain that man is only his body not his spirit or soul which will endure forever?
Have you gone to the afterlife to see is it true or not?

Yeah, I went there for a business meeting last Thursday. We were trying to decide which holy book was the first one moved out of the joke section of the library and if they should be returned in the same order they came out.

Endure forever, LOLOLOLOL! Nothing is forever, not even the universe. You attempt to explain your inane, pitiful tiny existence in the universe through some ancient book and belief in an unseen, all-knowing superpower is hilarious.
 

Unforgiven

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You say this now that you are in a good condition, but you are ungrateful to God, and you satisfy with your worldly life and forget about the afterlife.

As in the Quran 10: 7-8

إَنَّ الَّذِينَ لاَ يَرْجُونَلِقَاءنَا وَرَضُواْ بِالْحَياةِ الدُّنْيَا وَاطْمَأَنُّواْ بِهَا وَالَّذِينَهُمْ عَنْ آيَاتِنَا غَافِلُونَ .
أُوْلَـئِكَ مَأْوَاهُمُ النُّارُ بِمَا كَانُواْيَكْسِبُونَ
The explanation:
Those who look not for the meeting with Us, and are pleased with thepresent Worldly life, and are pleased with the present Worldly life, and areassured therewith, and who are heedless of Our signs [of revelation.]
Such will have [Hell-]Fire as their refuge [on the Day of Judgment],according to what [sins] they have earned

Understand that I say all these books were nothing more than books. You can believe what you want about them, but I only consider them books written by men. So it is that listing some passage from a book is like me reading something to you from a story book and expecting it to have some deeper meaning to you.

Sorry it's just a book. As far as I know, not believe, there is no such thing as an after life. No amount of saying "oh you'll be sorry cause my book says so" is going to change my mind.

But you have had this discussion before haven't you eanassir?
Why is it that the moment someone makes a claim and is shown to be false like this last end of the world scam, and it is a scam, do you feel that you need to jump on it and claim up and down that it's the truth?

Believe what you want to believe but don't ever say that no one told you it was all just a story to make you behave and maybe make a little money off you at the same time. You now know, I have just told you.
 

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You say this now that you are in a good condition, but you are ungrateful to God, and you satisfy with your worldly life and forget about the afterlife.
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I don't believe in any afterlife, so that is that.

I don't believe in any gods, so that is that.

You think what you believe has any effect on me or anyone like me, you are wrong, what you believe
only effects you.

You are like a door to door salesman, they just talk, talk, talk, but they never listen.

you're selling what?, sorry but i'm not interested,
we don't want, um, excuse me? I said, we don't want any, have you had your ears checked lately?
oh dear, guess I'll just shut the door quietly, but he probably won't stop talking, doesn't matter,
I won't hear him.
 

JLM

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You say this now that you are in a good condition, but you are ungrateful to God, and you satisfy with your worldly life and forget about the afterlife.
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I don't believe in any afterlife, so that is that.

I don't believe in any gods, so that is that.

You think what you believe has any effect on me or anyone like me, you are wrong, what you believe
only effects you.

You are like a door to door salesman, they just talk, talk, talk, but they never listen.

you're selling what?, sorry but i'm not interested,
we don't want, um, excuse me? I said, we don't want any, have you had your ears checked lately?
oh dear, guess I'll just shut the door quietly, but he probably won't stop talking, doesn't matter,
I won't hear him.

If you figure out a way to democratically and diplomatically evaporate these wingnuts, let me know. :lol:
 

Dexter Sinister

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Well, of course the end of the world is coming, there's no room for doubt about that. The sun won't last forever, and without the sun there's no chance that any form of life as we know it could exist on this planet. But that's many billion years in the future, and humanity will in all probability be long gone by then anyway. Most of the species that have ever lived are now extinct, and very few species last more than a few tens of millions of years, that's just the way nature operates, extinction is normal and predictable and there's no reason to think it won't happen to us too. And most days I think the planet would be better off without us.
 

Ariadne

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The End of the World is Coming


not again ... and ... because we know there will be an end, it's fun to guess when.
I guess someone got it wrong ... but did he or she get rich in the process?​

Imagine having to publicly declare that the end of the world won't happen for a couple of thousand years; 10+ generations, so to carry on as usual - there's no money in that. Best to say that the end of the world will happen to living people. Y2K cashed in nicely.​
 
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