The Coulter Challenge!!!

Colpy

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My bad...

The man is the typical morally bankrupt and ethically challenged poster boy of the Liberal party.

How's that for starters?

Allan Rock is an ill-informed and deeply offensive shill for a profoundly shallow and ignorant view of the world. He is a malignancy on the body politic. She is a disgrace to academia and a leading example of the dramatic decline in the quality of public discourse in recent times.


 

CDNBear

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Allan Rock is an ill-informed and deeply offensive shill for a profoundly shallow and ignorant view of the world. He is a malignancy on the body politic. She is a disgrace to academia and a leading example of the dramatic decline in the quality of public discourse in recent times.


Well said! Who says you don't have a way with words.
 

Kreskin

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Allan Rock is an ill-informed and deeply offensive shill for a profoundly shallow and ignorant view of the world. He is a malignancy on the body politic. She is a disgrace to academia and a leading example of the dramatic decline in the quality of public discourse in recent times.


Aside from that, they're both ok?
 

Curiosity

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Hmmmmmm I have no idea where I sit on this one.

I appreciate Coulter for her intellect, I sympathize Coulter for her lack of communication with others.

It does nothing when you have potentially useful ideas for the advancement of nations and possible peace
and understanding, however it is not done when swinging barbed wire and verbal insult.

Her ideas will not be heard nor taken with general agreement by any nation (even her own) until she learns
to dial back her delivery - to understand she is talking to a large diverse segment of people and in order
to achieve success and adoption of her thoughts, she will also have to learn to adopt "others' thoughts" and
incorporate them into her world view schema.

She doesn't understand she has utilized the dictatorship method of delivery - which will never be accepted among a nation (or nations) of free willed people.

She is exceedingly brilliant - I hope one day she will finally "get it" so some of her ideas can become reality for many - once modified by inclusivity.

There is never "one" answer to any of our problems - she hasn't learned that fact.
Perhaps she forgets peaceful cohabitation means for "all".
 

Kreskin

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Damn! I meant to take Rock's words and turn them on him.....but I missed that one "she", which I should have changed to "he".......

Curses! Foiled again! :)

She's OK.......
I thought you were ripping both lol.
 

Cliffy

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I thought you were ripping both lol.
That would have been the sensible thing to do. Coulter is only two dimensional. To be balanced you need to be able to rip both sides while remaining neutral. Nobody has all the answers and picking sides is to alienate half of humanity. Joining any group, political, religious or sports, is to say, "we are better than everybody else." And it is well known that is the cry of the insecure trying to make themselves feel better. Liberal, Conservative, Democrat or Republican are all intellectual midgets cut from the same cloth.
 

Curiosity

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Ah but Bear - you recognize and appreciate both sides - regardless of your choice - you allow room for all

Coulter has not learned fighting is not part of learning - you can't beat information into people.

Time and understanding and patience getting out a message will be received when people are treated
as equals.

I don't understand why she insists on misusing her intellect when she knows she is creating animosity for her cause. Perhaps she doesn't care. If so - she is wasting her brain.
 

CDNBear

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Ah but Bear - you recognize and appreciate both sides - regardless of your choice - you allow room for all
Yep, but a side I have still picked. My side gets rocked, battered and poked, but I'm on that side and in it to win it. People question it and condemn it, but I have chosen that side because of years of life experiences and having a grasp of history. Some may say it's ignorant and ugly, but the side I chose was all about protecting what we have, no matter how many people say we live in a dream (or nightmare) state. I have a comfortable life, even with the rocks and hurdles on my path. I honestly don't see the supposed cage I'm in, but have been repeatedly told I'm in.
Coulter has not learned fighting is not part of learning - you can't beat information into people.
I know, but it's fun and entertaining sometimes.
Time and understanding and patience getting out a message will be received when people are treated
as equals.
Curio, it's so hard to treat people as equals when they haven't clue one, nor feel a need to get one.
I don't understand why she insists on misusing her intellect when she knows she is creating animosity for her cause. Perhaps she doesn't care. If so - she is wasting her brain.
I agree with that sentiment. But more importantly, she has the rights and freedoms, as does everybody, to use her brain the way she sees fit. She also has the right and freedoms to be scorned and condemned for it too, and so do those that heap scorn upon her, or condemn her.
 

Curiosity

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Dear Bear

Sometimes it's ok to take a pass on someone who doesn't want to listen to your ideas - only wants to broadcast his/her own.

You can always say "thanks for the information" and move on because they are not in a hearing or learning mode anyway and may never be.

I'm still stuck with both feet planted on the imaginary line and have a heck of a time with a two-party system - but some issues are fine for me and I happily criss-cross over the line depending on what they are.

You've been managing your own belief system just fine and very diplomatically - and I admire your panache at
delivering some real swats over the years without drawing blood. You're good Bear - it's a great asset.

Re Coulter's approach - I wonder sometimes if she cares that people don't respond to her information - because her delivery demeans them - not the message. She must see herself as a lone crusader which is ridiculous - many devoted Conservatives can speak across the "magic" divide and reach many hearts - that's what makes a good/great pollitician or speaker of influence. She appears not to care.
 

CDNBear

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Dear Bear

Sometimes it's ok to take a pass on someone who doesn't want to listen to your ideas - only wants to broadcast his/her own.

You can always say "thanks for the information" and move on because they are not in a hearing or learning mode anyway and may never be.
But you know me, never the one to shy away from a challenge or a fight. Besides the adrenaline rush, in a sick twisted way I'm entertained by it.

I'm still stuck with both feet planted on the imaginary line and have a heck of a time with a two-party system - but some issues are fine for me and I happily criss-cross over the line depending on what they are.
On the political front. I'm right along side you. Only I have three to deal with. I can't stand one of them. But some I despise more then others. I hate being negative though.
You've been managing your own belief system just fine and very diplomatically - and I admire your panache at
delivering some real swats over the years without drawing blood. You're good Bear - it's a great asset.
You make me blush. Thank you for your kind words.
Re Coulter's approach - I wonder sometimes if she cares that people don't respond to her information - because her delivery demeans them - not the message. She must see herself as a lone crusader which is ridiculous - many devoted Conservatives can speak across the "magic" divide and reach many hearts - that's what makes a good/great pollitician or speaker of influence. She appears not to care.
I think she speaks to a certain low brow demographic. She sometimes enthralls a more educated base, but in the end, those with a broad perspective see through the melodramatics and one sided commentary. Although the more I watch her, the less inclined I am to say it's an act, lol.
 

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I used like an Coulter before she became a conservative gimmick. Now, I'm rather disgusted with her. For example, when confronted with some of the truly despicable, vile comments she's made, by the people she has said them about, she says things like 'that was 3 years ago get over it.....free speech, blah, blah. While that is true, she could at least provide a well thought out, logical answer, based on 'fact', for her comments, right? Instead, I find she gets rather emotional, and brings up stuff that has nothing to do with the issue she is being confronted with.....sound familiar, Annie? :lol:
 

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The important point is she makes good money without doing any real harm and she does instigate discussion.
It is rather unfortunate that Ann has such poor delivery because she is much easier on the eyes than most political shills.

Curio: There are some advantages to a two party system. You can simply flip a coin. WE basically have a one party system just that they change the name sometimes after the election. All are only interested in maintaining their share of the vote in Ontario and Quebec and to hell with the West.
 

Curiosity

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Is it still that way - the vote count and majority of population seem to weigh heavily in the government (of course - still being in the majority doesn't always make things right.

Living in the west in Canada I always felt we were the forgotten provinces.
 

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Colpy, I have to admit I am surprised to learn Alan Rock was behind this: I didn't think he was capable of original thought... oops, he wasn't: he had to be prompted by the student federation president. What more proof do we need that he should be fired as head of the university?

Bear, I'm with you on taking sides. Sooner or later we all have to and when we meet a worthy adversary who is capable of provoking thought when they challenge your beliefs, I think a lot of the time it strengthens you by showing limitations to those beliefs and further defining them.

Curiosity, also launched a gem with
Sometimes it's ok to take a pass on someone who doesn't want to listen to your ideas - only wants to broadcast his/her own.
I agree that with some people, thats the only way to deal with them...unless you feel like pounding on a brick wall.

In the end, I'm not a fan of Ann Coulter: I've seen her make up/pull some of her "facts" out of her arse on CNN/Fox/MSNBC/etc when she's been involved in some more heated discussions, but the way Messirs Houle, Rock and Wolfe treated her visit to UOttawa was an attrocity to free speech in this country. I only hope she does sue all of them and they get their just desserts.
 

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I must say "the old dog is being taken for a long walk". I don't have a dog. What is it like to pick up a hot fresh dog **** with an inside out baggie?:eek:ccasion9:
 

Curiosity

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Thanks Wulfie68

My bit of "wisdom" was a difficult learn in my first years participating in forums on the internet - with my temper flat out and raw feelings pouring from my keyboard.

It didn't go anywhere which was even more frustrating.

I decided I would rather share than scream and have learned so much more than I thought I was capable of.

I'm always blaming things on my early family life but with six sisters and a brother and two parents - and I was the end of the line, I never learned participation - only to yell and get attention.

It didn't work either - forums taught me what my family didn't once I stopped yelling and listened to what people had to say..