The Complete Wikileaks Thread(All threads merged here!)
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What rights are you referring to? Each country he has committed espionage against has their own laws. Even in Canada you are not privy to everything your goverment does. But you are free to use the privy. Now that Assange is in custody, a good old fashioned interrogation would be sufficient punishment to get him to tell us who supplied him the papers. Then give them what ever their country requires for treason.
Yes.
In wartime we kill the enemy.
We do not torture them.
If the guy could be hauled before a serious charge (not Sweden's, which is obviously a bad joke), that would be good enough.
Failing that.......
Summarily shoot him? Really Colpy, I'm surprised that a man of your obvious knowledge and intelligence shows so little respect for the rule of law in this case.
Do you expect anything different from an apologist for American and Israeli war crimes?
Ezra Levant says it so much better than I could.....(my emphasis though)
"Assange says U.S. forces must remember “shooting the Taliban is shooting the Afghan people.”
He’s not anti-war. He’s on the other side.
Assange published the names of Afghan human rights activists and others who have co-operated with the U.S. — giving out names of villages and GPS coordinates.
That’s not journalism. That’s not whistleblowing. That’s setting up “deadly revenge attacks,” says Reporters Without Borders.
Zabihullah Mujahid is grateful. He’s a Taliban spokesman who says “we know how to punish them.”
Assange published details about technology used to stop improvised explosive devices (IEDs) from being detonated. WikiLeaks calls roadside bombs a “rebel investment,” proudly pointing out for every dollar spent by the terrorists, the U.S. and Canada have to spend a thousand to defend against them. So Assange published those anti-IED details online.
This week, Assange started to publish 250,000 U.S. diplomatic messages, many marked secret. The fight against terrorism is being endangered.
Other members of WikiLeaks have complained about Assange’s anti-American obsession. But it’s his show now.
......................Why is Assange still alive? Why is he being treated as a journalist or political activist? If someone had published the intimate details of the D-Day plans during the Second World War, he would never have been seen again.
Assange and his colleagues act like spies, not journalists. WikiLeaks could have its assets seized, just like the Taliban has. And U.S. President Barack Obama could do what he’s doing to the Taliban throughout the world.
He doesn’t sue them or catch them. He kills them. Because it’s war.
Obama has even ordered the assassination of an American citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki.
How does Obama see Assange any differently?"
Ezra Levant
If he can not be brought to trial, or to heel.....shoot him. That simple. He is an enemy, no less so because he does not pull the trigger.
He didn't steal the cables...he published them. Are you going to parade the newspaper editors-who also published the information-before your firing squad as well?
I mean, it seems pretty empty for you to agree with calling Trudeau a tyrant for martial law during the FLQ crisis, and then pull out a rationalization that is essentially the same. One might even say vacuous, or hypocritical.
No.
Publishing material already in the public realm is freedom of speech.
Releasing material that you know will have a seriously adverse effect on the conduct of war, to say nothing of putting the lives of our soldiers and our allies at increased risk, is treason if you are our citizen, and accomplice to espionage if not.
but but, I only like her for her mind!!!!! lol
but but, I only like her for her mind!!!!! lol
And I'm a poor liar....I like skinny blonds.
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For her mind!?? Geeze man you`re worse off than I thought! At least her pussy won`t nag the head off ya. lol
Freedom of speech is much more than the freedom to publish what is in the public realm. The New York Times was found not to be negligent with respect to prior restraint for publishing excerpts from the Pentagon Papers by the Supreme Court. Free speech exists in large part to give the press the right to be a check on government. The fourth estate is vitally important to a functioning democracy.
Again, I'll note that you're throwing in with Trudeau here, whom you agreed was a tyrant for his use of martial law.
I would have to assume that everyone screaming for Assange's head is also screaming for the head of all reporters and media outlets that have quoted these reports in their news stories.
I'd like to know WTF has happened to the civilized world when right wingers, in this thread and in the wider world, are calling for the murder of Julian Assange, and it doesn't seem to generate much outrage. Ezra Levant was probably the first one to call for such tactics (in the case of Omar Khadr), but we've also heard it from Tom Flanagan, Sarah Palin, multiple journalists, U.S. congressmen, bloggers, even the editorial board of a respected newspaper, the Wall Street Journal. One could argue that there should be laws against what Assange has done, but there aren't. One could argue that he's zealously irresponsible. I wouldn't, though I can see how the case could be made, but that's not a crime as such either. A former U.S. president has admitted, in a book and out loud, that he authorized torture. That's a major crime in any court in any civilized nation in the world, but it's drawn not a fraction of the outrage and anger that's been directed against the man who revealed some of the secrets of his administration. What are we to think when large numbers of people--I'd bet a majority of American Republicans, I'll see if I can find some poll results--think torturing suspects is a legitimate interrogation method, and it's okay to imprison suspects without charge or trial, indefinitely? There's the extremist mindset laid bare for all to see: murder those who can harm your reputation, suppress dissent, detain and torture people you don't like, to Hell with the rule of law.
Early in December a federal minister stood up in the House in response to an Opposition question to announce that neither he nor the PM were in favour of murdering Julian Assange. That's good I guess, but why would any MP feel it necessary to even ask? Because, as an editorialist in the Ottawa Citizen put it a few weeks ago, the formerly unthinkable has become politics as usual. Torture as government policy, murder as an option in political discussions... There was a popular saying in the sixties when I was growing up, "I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused." Well, now I'm disgusted again.
Early in December a federal minister stood up in the House in response to an Opposition question to announce that neither he nor the PM were in favour of murdering Julian Assange. That's good I guess, but why would any MP feel it necessary to even ask? Because, as an editorialist in the Ottawa Citizen put it a few weeks ago, the formerly unthinkable has become politics as usual. Torture as government policy, murder as an option in political discussions... There was a popular saying in the sixties when I was growing up, "I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused." Well, now I'm disgusted again.
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The media has traditionally been the 4th level (pillar) of government. A journalist had a self-imposed duty of social ethics within the job. Now the internet has let loose everyone to become one. Assange sells news, just like the rest, but he has no ethics. No interest in the consequences of his duties. He wants it to be the wild west. As they say, be careful of what you wish for. The wild west can play a few dirty tricks as well.
It's ironic that it is acceptable to be a flag-waving patriot (blind supporter of government) and a christian but not a nationalist.
Governments hate Assange as he threatens to expose their secret deals and under-the-table negotiations. As far as I am concerned, constant warmongering (i.e. Iraq) and entangling alliances aren't good for any nations nor its subjects.
Opponents of the regime have been murdered for far less than Assange.