The Coalition Strikes!!!

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A retired RN spent a week digging them up for me from the Alberta Health Stats which she had available to her. I can find no fault with them and several inquiries to Alberta Health has brought nothing back for replies.

Pity as it lumps them in with anecdotal and hearsay where they could have been great fodder for debate. Ah well, thanks for the post no less.
 

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The conservatives are a coalition they merged after forming a coalition of two ideologies
right and extreme right, actually the Reform Party hijacked the Progressive Conservative
party. Remember when Peter Mac Kay was the leader and said it wouldn't happen only
to be negotiating in secret? In BC there is a coalition of the federal Conservatives and the
Federal Liberals to have a majority against the NDP. I don't think that is going to save them
this fall in a Provincial election either. I do hope there is a coalition of opposition parties in
the event of a minority but I doubt they will form a formal working arrangement.
We must not allow a majority government of social conservatives, they do not serve the
interests of Canadians they address the issues only from the small core that funds them.
I have said before present the alternative as a fiscal conservative government that is a
different matter, social conservatism is worse than the Liberals.

Damn Grumpy, that is complete BS. The CPC is a party, it has been for many years now......and NEITHER of the groups that joined together were "extreme right". The fact of the matter is every Canadian political party is so crowded into the middle that their policies overlap in many places.....thus you see the BQ and the NDP agreeing, the Liberals sometimes slipping to the left of the NDP, and the Conservatives and Liberals sharing policies in a number of areas.

Doesn't sound like a wide political spectrum to me.
 

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If you believe that, you don't know me very well.

Of course I don't know you very well. You're some dude on the Internet.
But from what you have posted here, I think I've got you pegged pretty close.
It's true that most people aren't quite the person they appear to be online when
sitting down in person. So until we sit down and have a couple drinks, maybe a nice
schnitzel or succulent Mongolian ribs, we're just going to have to settle with that impression.
 

Colpy

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Health care is divided along party lines; it has nothing to do with cost and effect!


I do so hope for a Coalition!


Beyond the obvious misrepresentation of the Health Care situation, the pandering of public funds into Quebec released today, the fact they have turned over water exports to the provinces which will cost us dearly I can see no reason to elected even one of these lying buggers into the house!

The Liberal and Conservative health care policies are identical.

Any coalition including the Bloc is idiotic, and close to seditious.

And I do wish you guys would read the constitution......control over natural resources (including water) is purely, 100% a PROVINCIAL issue.

Of course I don't know you very well. You're some dude on the Internet.
But from what you have posted here, I think I've got you pegged pretty close.
It's true that most people aren't quite the person they appear to be online when
sitting down in person. So until we sit down and have a couple drinks, maybe a nice
schnitzel or succulent Mongolian ribs, we're just going to have to settle with that impression.

Put it this way....I voted NDP for years, then moved (oh so briefly) to the PC party.....until I realized what a dick Lyin' Brian was....I joined Reform when they had only one MP, and have followed that group through the Alliance and into the CPC. I have voted federally for FIVE different parties, everywhere on the spectrum from centre left to centre right.........blind party loyalty is NOT my thing.

The point is the CPC is miles ahead of the opposition on the military and foreign affairs.

The CPC is miles ahead of the opposition on gun control and social spending.

There are things I don't like about the CPC, and I'd drop them in a heartbeat for a party that more closely followed my ideals....but there are none.

So I support the CPC.
 

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Damn Grumpy, that is complete BS. The CPC is a party, it has been for many years now......and NEITHER of the groups that joined together were "extreme right". The fact of the matter is every Canadian political party is so crowded into the middle that their policies overlap in many places.....thus you see the BQ and the NDP agreeing, the Liberals sometimes slipping to the left of the NDP, and the Conservatives and Liberals sharing policies in a number of areas.

Doesn't sound like a wide political spectrum to me.

C'mon Colpy. The current CPC was formed by a merger of the old PC's and the Reform Alliance Party. The reformers were pretty right wing and that has become the major paltform of the present incarnation as the CPC with a slight move to the left on a couple of issues. Just because the 2 parties merged into 1 official party doesn't mean the politics have changed that much.
 

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C'mon Colpy. The current CPC was formed by a merger of the old PC's and the Reform Alliance Party. The reformers were pretty right wing and that has become the major paltform of the present incarnation as the CPC with a slight move to the left on a couple of issues. Just because the 2 parties merged into 1 official party doesn't mean the politics have changed that much.

Stephen Harper has dragged we toothless, drooling redneck Reformers right to the middle of the road, fighting every step of the way.

The CPC is a "big tent" party........I thought that was a good thing??
 

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C'mon Colpy. The current CPC was formed by a merger of the old PC's and the Reform Alliance Party. The reformers were pretty right wing and that has become the major paltform of the present incarnation as the CPC with a slight move to the left on a couple of issues. Just because the 2 parties merged into 1 official party doesn't mean the politics have changed that much.
I still think Harper has been holding back while in minority. He acts every bit dictatorial within the party and I believe he will show his true colours if he gets a majority. I think his actions will spread out into parliament and we will get a dictatorship, albeit for just as long as that parliament sits. I wouldn't put it past him to enact martial law if it looks like he will lose the next election. He is a very good automaton to his masters.
 

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I still think Harper has been holding back while in minority. He acts every bit dictatorial within the party and I believe he will show his true colours if he gets a majority. I think his actions will spread out into parliament and we will get a dictatorship, albeit for just as long as that parliament sits. I wouldn't put it past him to enact martial law if it looks like he will lose the next election. He is a very good automaton to his masters.

OMG I get tired of this crap! 20 ****ing years of the brain-dead fear-mongering anyone that doesn't fit with their political ideal.

Give it a break! Harper is a whole lot LESS scary than Jean Chretien....or Iggy, or Trudeau.

He is simply a Canadian politician.

Speaking of martial law is just ridiculous.....and irresponsible.
 

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Stephen Harper has dragged we toothless, drooling redneck Reformers right to the middle of the road, fighting every step of the way.

You should vote NDP then in order to get some free dentures and sunburn cream from the government. :lol:

The CPC is a "big tent" party........I thought that was a good thing??
Problem with their 'big tent' is that you have to pass the security/background check to get in. All others will be tossed out by force. ;-)

...Harper is a whole lot LESS scary than Jean Chretien....

Well he hasn't actually choked anyone yet so I gotta give you that point.
 

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OMG I get tired of this crap! 20 ****ing years of the brain-dead fear-mongering anyone that doesn't fit with their political ideal.

Give it a break! Harper is a whole lot LESS scary than Jean Chretien....or Iggy, or Trudeau.

He is simply a Canadian politician.

Speaking of martial law is just ridiculous.....and irresponsible.
Were you aware that martial law, instigated by Trudeau, was never rescinded? It can be re-implemented without approval of parliament. At least that is what I understand. I may be wrong but I don't know where to go to verify it.

And I have never been given cause to fear any PM in my life until I saw Harper at work. I have come face to face with dozens of bears without so much as a heart murmur, but Harper scares the crap out of me.

You should vote NDP then in order to get some free dentures and sunburn cream from the government. :lol:


Problem with their 'big tent' is that you have to pass the security/background check to get in. All others will be tossed out by force. ;-)



Well he hasn't actually choked anyone yet so I gotta give you that point.
Nobody should have got that close that he had to deal with the guy himself. That was the fault of his security.
 

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Were you aware that martial law, instigated by Trudeau, was never rescinded? It can be re-implemented without approval of parliament. At least that is what I understand. I may be wrong but I don't know where to go to verify it.

And I have never been given cause to fear any PM in my life until I saw Harper at work. I have come face to face with dozens of bears without so much as a heart murmur, but Harper scares the crap out of me.


Nobody should have got that close that he had to deal with the guy himself. That was the fault of his security.

Just Google.

The War Measures Act regulations expired on April 30, 1971.

The WMA does not even exist anymore, having been replaced by the Emergencies Act of 1988.

Chretien attacked the guy.......grabbing someone by the throat is a more serious offense than common assault........
 

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And I have never been given cause to fear any PM in my life until I saw Harper at work. I have come face to face with dozens of bears without so much as a heart murmur, but Harper scares the crap out of me.

I think you could take him Cliffy. You just gotta get through the background check and 2 RCMP roadblocks and 3 levels of private security to get close enough, but then you got him. :lol:

Nobody should have got that close that he had to deal with the guy himself. That was the fault of his security.
Exactly, Harper would never let someone with a different opinion within 5 miles let alone that close.
 

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I think you could take him Cliffy. You just gotta get through the background check and 2 RCMP roadblocks and 3 levels of private security to get close enough, but then you got him. :lol:


Exactly, Harper would never let someone with a different opinion within 5 miles let alone that close.
I'm sure I could take him. He reminds me of the Pillsbury Doe Boy. Weak people need to surround themselves with gorillas or like a hermit crab that has to use others discarded shells for protection. But what he lacks in physical prowess he more than makes up for with deviousness and secrecy.
 

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Yep, the Liberal, NDP, Bloc coalition is on the move.........and Canada is in trouble. God forbid we ever elect these guys.....


Liberals, NDP, Bloc gang up on Alberta - Ezra Levant

We really do need a Harper majority next time.....I fear any other resolution will result in these guys taking power.

That would be an absolute disaster for this nation.

A majority goverment is a dictatorship! Thats why we have a 3 party system to prevent dictators from comming to power. The Coalition propaganda as already been dispelled . Parties vote together on issues thats normal and you know full well that the concervative made alliances on votes just like everyone else . So stop talking like a Concervative clone and think on your own for a second!
 

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Give it a break! Harper is a whole lot LESS scary than Jean Chretien....or Iggy, or Trudeau.

That depends on what scares you.

Me, I think Harper has become a lot scarier, and I can no longer support him. He has shown that he has no morals or ethics. He claims to be a Christian, whatever that means, and yet allows people with no ethics to sit in his cabinet. Therefore, he has no ethics, therefore, he is too scary to be PM.

I wonder what he tells his kids.

A majority goverment is a dictatorship! Thats why we have a 3 party system to prevent dictators from comming to power. The Coalition propaganda as already been dispelled . Parties vote together on issues thats normal and you know full well that the concervative made alliances on votes just like everyone else . So stop talking like a Concervative clone and think on your own for a second!

We don't have a three party system. We have a system that allows as many parties as can get votes, and right now, it's 4.

Exactly, Harper would never let someone with a different opinion within 5 miles let alone that close.

You really have to be weak and insecure to be that afraid of a different point of view.

A true leader would welcome people like that. Only a weak, insecure person is scared of a different outlook.
 

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A majority goverment is a dictatorship! Thats why we have a 3 party system to prevent dictators from comming to power. The Coalition propaganda as already been dispelled . Parties vote together on issues thats normal and you know full well that the concervative made alliances on votes just like everyone else . So stop talking like a Concervative clone and think on your own for a second!

Well thats refreshing a Concervative who reconises that there are other seperate parties in our goverment who vote on decisions for the poeple. You are corect Ten Penny we now have 4 parties to date and thank you for not calling them a Coalition.
 

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That depends on what scares you.

Me, I think Harper has become a lot scarier, and I can no longer support him. He has shown that he has no morals or ethics. He claims to be a Christian, whatever that means, and yet allows people with no ethics to sit in his cabinet. Therefore, he has no ethics, therefore, he is too scary to be PM.

I wonder what he tells his kids.




We don't have a three party system. We have a system that allows as many parties as can get votes, and right now, it's 4.



You really have to be weak and insecure to be that afraid of a different point of view.

A true leader would welcome people like that. Only a weak, insecure person is scared of a different outlook.

Thats why we have to above all priorities make sure no partie gets a majority . If Harper has been able to do all he did as a minority , imagine what he will do to Canada as a magority! Sorry Ten Penny but your willingly being manipulated which is the sadest part of democracy!