The Coalition Strikes!!!

[captain morgan]

Most of it will vapourize.

A high concentration of those aromatics will most likely have a huge negative health affect on any communities within proximity.

And agricultural run-off. Google "algae blooms sewage satellite" and have a look at the visualizations we can observe without models.

I find it interesting that these local communities that have such a problem with this issue are quick to totally ignore the environmental affects of the raw sewage that they've been dumping into the ocean for all these years... Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

 

[damngrumpy]

First of all I never liked the idea of a coalition, but there is nothing illegal or improper about forming one.
Coalitions have been part of the democratic process for centuries. There are so many people who make
a big deal about a coalition. I am more concerned about Harper than I am about the coalition actually.
The Harper gang is a social conservative movement, the old Reform circle, in a Conservative costume.
I don't fear fiscal conservatives but social conservatives I don't think so. The other conservative group
I am suspicious of, You guessed it the Greens. The Greens are not a left wing movement they are in
fact a conservative movement. The Greens are also more, dogmatic, they will push their agenda without
regard to the will of the people or the political reality around them.
I have trouble giving anyone a majority actually, as I am suspicious of the old Liberal gang and the present
crop of New Democrats I am not sure about either. The next election will produce the same result that we
have now. A minority, some faces will change, but the result will be pretty much the same. I personally
like minority governments, keeps everyone in check.

 

[Skatchie]

Liberals should be denied rights, it would be fair game because all any of them do is try to take everybody else's profits and rights away. I'm so sick of lefty idiots. We should ban them from participating in democracy.

 

[petros]

I find it interesting that these local communities that have such a problem with this issue are quick to totally ignore the environmental affects of the raw sewage that they've been dumping into the ocean for all these years... Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

100 years ago the City of Chicago claimed that automobiles were clean and green. They didn't have to dump several tonnes of horse **** into the lake everyday anymore.

 

[Tonington]

A high concentration of those aromatics will most likely have a huge negative health affect on any communities within proximity.

I'm not disagreeing. But those same aromatics vapourize during oil spills.

I find it interesting that these local communities that have such a problem with this issue are quick to totally ignore the environmental affects of the raw sewage that they've been dumping into the ocean for all these years... Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

Oh, did you find photos of eutrophication off the Northern BC coast? Well nobody asked you, and if you had bothered to check first before going to your standard talking point whenever anyone mentions marine pollution, you might have found a document like this, from the same website that produced that model, you know, the model that prompted your bull $hit talking point:
http://www.livingoceans.org/files/PDF/energy/pollution_report.pdf

Go ahead, use the search function. Maybe even note that sewage talk occurs in the recommendations.

 

[GreenFish66]

So anytime the majority disagrees with the conservatives, it's to be considered as a Coalition?

 

[Colpy]

So anytime the majority disagrees with the conservatives, it's to be considered as a Coalition?

There is nothing wrong with a coalition .....I agree with that. Were the Libs/NDP to form a majority coalition, I would grind my teeth, bang my head on the wall.......and take it. What is WRONG is including the Bloc, as either a full or silent partner, as their entire purpose is the destruction of the nation........it bloody well borders on sedition.

Why?

The bloc are elected, thus they have the right to be in the House.........BUT it is the patriotic duty of every person to do their best to lessen their influence, for the sake of the nation. Quebecs will reject a party without influence, so influence must be denied the separatists.

The most sensible coalition would be Conservative/ Liberal.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[petros]

el bloco no est bueno

 

[YukonJack]

No coalition is needed.

All the parties select their leader by balloting. A candidate who attains 50% +1 support is the winner. Until that time the last place candidate in each ballot graciously withdraws and lets the more deserving ones proceed.

If that method is good enough to select leaders of a party, it should be good enough top select the leaders of the country. The party with the fewest votes at an election should drop out and hope for better luck next time. Once one party - after all the eliminations - reaches the desired plateau of 50% +1 it would be declared winner and let the losers fade into the background until next election.

Probably never will happen. It makes too much sense.

 

[petros]

Probably never will happen. It makes too much sense.

It makes no sense at all.

It does make sense if you want a dictator.

 

[YukonJack]

petros, many countries around the world have "run-off" elections, when there is a doubt in the initial outcome, which is similar to what I am suggesting.

I stated my case, and thought it made as much sense in electing the leaders of the country the same way as it did in electing the leader of a party.

If you gave a reasoned argument to refute my position, I would be happy to hear (read) it.

Elect a majority government right off the bat and you will have a de facto dictator. What is the difference>

 

[Tonington]

Probably never will happen. It makes too much sense.

Makes too much sense? How about none? Electing a leader of one party is nothing like electing the leader of an entire country. Second, voter turnout is the pits now. It's worse if people have to take even more time out of their busy, commute, work, commute, pick up kids, buy groceries, make supper, get homework started, drive someone to basketball practice....etc.

Coalitions are perfectly acceptable. The government gets more broad support than the minority that minority government's govern with.

 

[damngrumpy]

Somebody said get rid of the Bloc and there would be no coalitions. Wrong, there have been several
coalitions over time, before the Bloc entered the picture. If the Bloc was not there, there would have
been a Liberal Majority. Not that I want a Liberal Majority, at least not with a character from Sesame
Street leading them, I just want people to understand the reason we have minority governments is
because Canadians as a whole don't trust any of the above with a clear mantle of power. In this case,
who would trust Harper, or Iggy or the Jack, the Bloc almost appears less destructive than the rest
and that is because the Bloc will never gain power. The other thing is, the Bloc doesn't really want to
leave they just want more, if they leave, they would have to do all the work.
I think we need some common sense and there isn't any.

 

[Tonington]

Liberals should be denied rights, it would be fair game because all any of them do is try to take everybody else's profits and rights away. I'm so sick of lefty idiots. We should ban them from participating in democracy.

Fascist troll.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I'm in Vancouver and I could count at least 5 what seem to be Oil Tankers in the distance maybe once a week..

 

[GreenFish66]

If the Bloc was part of a coalition .Would that make them more Canadian?Just the fact that they are a party of Canada .Makes them Canadian .
"A nation within Canada" as stated by conservatives...

 

[Tonington]

I'm in Vancouver and I could count at least 5 what seem to be Oil Tankers in the distance maybe once a week..

How far is Vancouver from Kitimat?

 

[Machjo]

Seeing that I always vote based on the candidate's character and not on his party affiliation (and I always vote on principle, never on strategy), I can say that I personally have never contributed to such partisan politicking. That said, unfortunately ever since I've started voting, I've never seen the one I'd voted for win a seat yet.

If we sincerely want to weaken party power and return power to the people, we need to do a few things in my opinion:

1. Remove party names from ballots [and preferably even go so far as to adopt a completely non-partisan democratic system (Non-partisan democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)]

2. Adopt a plurality-at-large voting system where appropriate (Plurality-at-large voting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Sure we need far more reforms than this, but I believe the above would be a positive firt step. As for coalitions per se, I think they're indispensable in a non-partisan system since obviously in the absence of parties, coalitions will be the way to maintain parliamentary unity and a functioning government. The difference though is that such coalitions are les formal and more fluid, thus forcing them to stay on their toes a lot more so as to maintain the coalition, thus making them much more responsive to the government and the constituents.

 

[FiveParadox]

Do you suggest then, Retired_Can_Soldier, that all Government bills that have passed, only because of the support of the Bloc, are thereby seditious?

 

[Cliffy]

Liberals should be denied rights, it would be fair game because all any of them do is try to take everybody else's profits and rights away. I'm so sick of lefty idiots. We should ban them from participating in democracy.

Then it wouldn't be a democracy, would it? I think we should ban right wing bozos who spouting crap like that.