The Coalition Strikes!!!

[Colpy]

Yep, the Liberal, NDP, Bloc coalition is on the move.........and Canada is in trouble. God forbid we ever elect these guys.....

In Parliament last week, the opposition joined forces behind an NDP motion to ban oil tankers off the coast of B.C. It passed 143 votes to 138.

Of course, a tanker ban off B.C. isn’t going to happen.

Oil tankers sail down the coast of B.C. every day bringing oil from Alaska to the lower 48 United States. You’d have to conquer the U.S. navy to stop that.

Oil is exported from Vancouver by tanker, too. And 1,500 tankers have sailed in and out of Kitimat, B.C., with petroleum products. The majority of oil used in Atlantic Canada and Quebec comes in by tanker, too — from dictatorships like Algeria and Saudi Arabia.

You’d have to conquer the opposition’s hypocrisy to stop that.

So this motion really isn’t about stopping tankers. It’s about stopping the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline from Alberta to B.C., that would bring 500,000 barrels of oilsands oil a day to the coast for export to Asia.

The opposition doesn’t mind U.S. tankers off the B.C. coast or Saudi tankers coming up the St. Lawrence Seaway. They don’t mind B.C. tankers going in and out of Vancouver or Kitimat.

They just don’t want tankers to do business with Alberta’s oilsands.

It’s a ban designed to keep Alberta landlocked, denying its oilsands an outlet to the sea.

Liberals, NDP, Bloc gang up on Alberta - Ezra Levant

We really do need a Harper majority next time.....I fear any other resolution will result in these guys taking power.

That would be an absolute disaster for this nation.

 

[lone wolf]

I hope he takes your guns. You need to be really Conned.

 

[Tonington]

As usual, Ezra Levant is foaming at the mouth and peddling conspiracy. Groups like First Nations, Fisherman, and local businesses have petitioned against this plan. And it's not all of BC, it's a section of Northern BC only.

Get some perspective Colpy, watch video here (warning, it's CBC):

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Imagine, local fisherman and Natives wanting to keep their coast pristine and likelihoods secure. What gall! Not like this motion matters. The government doesn't have to do squat, and after all, the Federal Government always does what's in the interests of local constiuents anyways. Yeah right...

Get a clue Ezra. What a twit.

 

[TenPenny]

I wonder why Levant doesn't mention that there is a voluntary ban in effect now, and has been for 20 years.

Makes most of his points seem pretty stupid, especially this one: Oil tankers sail down the coast of B.C. every day bringing oil from Alaska to the lower 48 United States. You’d have to conquer the U.S. navy to stop that.


Makes one think that Levant deliberately misunderstands, and expects his loyal audience to be that clueless.

 

[Colpy]

As usual, Ezra Levant is foaming at the mouth and peddling conspiracy. Groups like First Nations, Fisherman, and local businesses have petitioned against this plan. And it's not all of BC, it's a section of Northern BC only.

Get some perspective Colpy, watch video here (warning, it's CBC):

CBC.ca Player

Imagine, local fisherman and Natives wanting to keep their coast pristine and likelihoods secure. What gall! Not like this motion matters. The government doesn't have to do squat, and after all, the Federal Government always does what's in the interests of local constiuents anyways. Yeah right...

Get a clue Ezra. What a twit.

Oh, I don't doubt there are two sides to this.

I work at a tanker site.....a new site that brings in large LNG tankers and ships the gas via a pipeline. The battle of both the terminal and the pipeline was long and difficult. The terminal is built on beautiful coastline, on the Bay of Fundy, with the highest tides in the world. A shame to see the coast taken from pristine to developed......but that is the way we get our production to market.

Everything is a choice.

And the most good should win.

$40 million a DAY. New markets in Asia. Less dependence on the USA to buy our oil.

Worth the risk, in my books.

I think Ezra is right, in fact I don't think he goes far enough against the Coalition.....how about they ban tankers in the St. Lawrence????

Don't hold your breath.

 

[#juan]

Yep, the Liberal, NDP, Bloc coalition is on the move.........and Canada is in trouble. God forbid we ever elect these guys.....


Liberals, NDP, Bloc gang up on Alberta - Ezra Levant

We really do need a Harper majority next time.....I fear any other resolution will result in these guys taking power.

That would be an absolute disaster for this nation.

Why is it Colpy that in almost all your posts, the Liberals are at fault? You never mention the Conservative debt that your grand children, and their grand children will still be paying off fifty years from now. Lyin' Brian should be in jail. If not for the debt he left us in, then the bribe money he carried home in brown paper bags and never declared till it became public knowledge.

 

[petros]

Lordy, Lordy, Jesus help us?​

 

[Colpy]

I wonder why Levant doesn't mention that there is a voluntary ban in effect now, and has been for 20 years.

Makes most of his points seem pretty stupid, especially this one: Oil tankers sail down the coast of B.C. every day bringing oil from Alaska to the lower 48 United States. You’d have to conquer the U.S. navy to stop that.


Makes one think that Levant deliberately misunderstands, and expects his loyal audience to be that clueless.

To an extent, you are right. Ezra fails to mention that US tankers do not come within 25 miles of the BC coast...........voluntarily. That is what the ban means........the Yanks could sail much closer any time they pleased.

Why is it Colpy that in almost all your posts, the Liberals are at fault? You never mention the Conservative debt that your grand children, and their grand children will still be paying off fifty years from now. Lyin' Brian should be in jail. If not for the debt he left us in, then the bribe money he carried home in brown paper bags and never declared till it became public knowledge.

I have absolutely no argument with that.

 

[petros]

Personally I don't give a **** about 'sides' but le Bloc has got to go.

 

[Avro]

Oh, I don't doubt there are two sides to this.

What's the other side?

You won't get it from an extremist like Ezra.

....unless you're only looking for one side.

 

[petros]

On the BC tanker ban are they saying no more through the Inside Passage or?????

If so then that is very sane thinking and a good thing.

 

[Trotz]

We need the STV in Canada

 

[petros]

We need the STV in Canada

Vote swapping? Ummmmmmm. NO!

 

[Mowich]

I agree about the need for a Conservative majority next time, Colpy, but I really don't think that the 'coalition' is going to be a threat. IMHO, the biggest liability they have is Gilles or Iggy or .... well come to think of it, not a one of them really measures up - do they. Last I heard, most Canadians still think that Iggy is not leadership material and let's face it, Jack will never, ever, not a hope in hell... be PM.

 

[petros]

Get rid of le Bloc and there won't be coalitions or minority govts.

 

[Trotz]

Get rid of le Bloc and there won't be coalitions or minority govts.

Good idea, let's hand over 40 seats to the liberal party.

 

[petros]

Sure why not. It beats a group of deadbeats who do nothing for the other 12 provinces and territories. If they want to sit in Parliament then they had better start having canidates nation wide.

 

[Trotz]

The actual system of FPTP is outdated - most countries in Europe have opted for a popular vote with minimal thresholds in regards to seating in parliament.

Though no government would adopt such a system as it effectively would kill the "big tent" parties.

 

[petros]

I can see it now. 4 people show up for work and each votes for their party. I'd like a job like that. Work by proxy.

 

[Trotz]

Petros,
threshold means your "I want my own party" types wouldn't get through the front gate of parliament in session, let alone sit in one.

Popular mixed-PR would expand our party list to about 10 or so parties (after all, the ''big tent'' parties have their own components. I.E. the Conservatives have a religious camp, a progressive camp, fiscal conservatives, et al)