I lean more to the right than the left but I vote for which ever party I think will be best.I hope Harper keeps his word then my son will never have to go back there.
The Canadian election………….
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Twig- you are backing the wrong horse if that's what you want- Harpers "word" on the issue, as I detailed above, was totally meaningless, the combat troops will be renamed, their missions will be recharacterised, but we will NOT withdraw, mark my words
You maybe be right, I don't have a crystal ball. I only have what the politicians have said to go by. I have not heard a word from Dion about Afghanistan it's almost like it's not an issue with him. I don't know if the sacrifice we have made has done any permanent good. I hope it has my son and his fellow soldiers seem to think so and they are soldiers not peacekeepers. I don't think it was wrong to try. From my selfish POV I feel my son has given as much as can and that (4 tours) is enough.
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To be fair we also gave the conservatives their chance in the saddle and they ****ed up even more.
The best scenario we've had thus far is minority government which I quite like to keep.
Im not a fan of having a party that gets 40 odd percent of the vote (regardless of who) have 100% of the power.
Once you have a majority government in Canada then its a one party state and no one else need show up.
Unlike the US, we only have one elected branch of government and its a simple majority rules.
For all the idiocy that has happened under Bushes regime its really not purely his fault. The republicans had a majority in the Senate and Congress and that caused alot of the problem, no more checks and balances.
It was their equivalent of a Canadian majority government.
I could not agree more. I like the checks and balances that a minority government allows except for the part where each party puts their own interest first ( i.e. doing their best to make the other party look incompetent) at the expense of the citizens of Canada and not getting the important work done. Save that little trick for election stomping. I have always believed that absolute power corrupts.
well to be fair, all of them are used to having majority governments, and they keep thinking everytime that the next election (which would be any moement now) it'll go back to Majority.
I hope they are wrong and they eventually settle down and learn to play nice.
I hope they are wrong and they eventually settle down and learn to play nice.
How to answer this. No and therefor that answer make the last part of you question irrelevant.
;-)
Yeah, we have had minority governments in the past where the "ruling" party didn't just try to make the opposition look dumb
Harpers dirty pool looks more like the kind of thing a desperate minority opposition might try, not something the party in power would be doing.
Harpers dirty pool looks more like the kind of thing a desperate minority opposition might try, not something the party in power would be doing.
We've also had minority gov't s where the opposition didn't just walk out and refuse to vote, while at the same time claiming they oppose every bill.
After a while, it becomes a farce:
oh, we're completely against this horrible legislation
are you going to vote against it?
well, no, because then we'd have to have an election.
After a while, it becomes a farce:
oh, we're completely against this horrible legislation
are you going to vote against it?
well, no, because then we'd have to have an election.
Which leads to my other point, the governor general should see if other parties can form a government in such cases, as a mandatory, not an option.
I'd like to see some ACTUAL coalition governments. Ie, Some ministers from one party, some from another.
I'd like to see some ACTUAL coalition governments. Ie, Some ministers from one party, some from another.
I have seen this go both ways. I don't think one party is more guilty or more innocent of playing dirty pool. I am not defending Harpers calling an election now, I understand why he did it. It's strictly political because now is the best time for him at a shot of having a majority government. Do I believe his reasons for calling an election, not on your life.
Right now I am still fed up with the liberals. I have trusted them in the past and they lied and stole. I know the Conservatives are no better, it's politics. I don't know what the answer is I am just a lowly little citizen that obeys the laws and pays my taxes but I will tell you one thing I am sick and tired of the shenanigans of both parties. For once I would love to see one of the parties keep their word and stop making excuses for what they don't do. I would like to see them spend our money wisely and work together. And yup Murphy was an optimist. :smile:
Old Age Pension and Universal Health care are both results of minority governments.
http://www.mapleleafweb.com/features/minority-governments-canada
Minority government is people-friendly - another reason to distrust Harper. He made no attempt to co-operate and govern. He wanted control. That and having the architect of Ontario's Common Sense Revolution writing policy speak agenda to me.
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Great question madudon, it will be hilarious to see Harper as a minority Government, taking the opposition the Liberals to court and losing………………and loosing they will because the Snow whites are not squeaky clean……………….. Harper is looking to divert attention from his broken promises for the last 2 ½ years…
The majority are PCrs……..with the Mulroney mentality…….Gestapo and mean spirited…
Baloney.
When the Canadian Alliance and the Progressive Conservative Parties merged, the CA had by far the largest membership......they so outnumbered the PCs that the merger was oft called a "hostile takeover" by the CA.
So......the Conservative Party of Canada was.......and is......largely made up of a membership that set out and succeeded in destroying the Progressive Conservative party of Brian and Joe.
Those are the facts.
I joined Reform because I couldn't stand Lyin' Brian.
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From Wikipedia: Tom Long (politician)
Tom Long (born 1958) is a Canadian political strategist. Long was president of the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party in the late 1980s. He played a key role in writing and implementing party leader Mike Harris' "Common Sense Revolution", and helping the Tories win the 1995 Ontario election that brought them to power.
In 2000, Long ran for the leadership of the federal Canadian Alliance party in an attempt to make the new party more attractive to Ontario voters, and to bring members of the federal Progressive Conservative Party into the CA. He came in third in a campaign that was stung by allegations of fraudulent registration of non-existent members -- allegedly including a number of deceased individuals and a few dogs -- in Quebec. After being dropped from the first ballot, he supported Preston Manning on the second; after Manning's defeat by Stockwell Day, Long returned to behind-the-scenes activism.
After the CA and PC parties merged in 2004 to form the Conservative Party of Canada, Long supported former Ontario PC cabinet minister Tony Clement for the leadership of the new party.
A native of the border city of Sarnia, Ontario, Long holds dual American-Canadian citizenship, a fact which, in the context of his neoconservative political positions, inspired some controversy during his Canadian Alliance leadership campaign.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Long_(politician)"
Tom Long (born 1958) is a Canadian political strategist. Long was president of the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party in the late 1980s. He played a key role in writing and implementing party leader Mike Harris' "Common Sense Revolution", and helping the Tories win the 1995 Ontario election that brought them to power.
In 2000, Long ran for the leadership of the federal Canadian Alliance party in an attempt to make the new party more attractive to Ontario voters, and to bring members of the federal Progressive Conservative Party into the CA. He came in third in a campaign that was stung by allegations of fraudulent registration of non-existent members -- allegedly including a number of deceased individuals and a few dogs -- in Quebec. After being dropped from the first ballot, he supported Preston Manning on the second; after Manning's defeat by Stockwell Day, Long returned to behind-the-scenes activism.
After the CA and PC parties merged in 2004 to form the Conservative Party of Canada, Long supported former Ontario PC cabinet minister Tony Clement for the leadership of the new party.
A native of the border city of Sarnia, Ontario, Long holds dual American-Canadian citizenship, a fact which, in the context of his neoconservative political positions, inspired some controversy during his Canadian Alliance leadership campaign.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Long_(politician)"