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Problems associated with British education have recently been in the press. I believe we have some evidence of that here in this very thread. We may not take much comfort though, it seems the same banking interests dictate the appropriate historical fables to western consumers always looking bolster synthetic national pride in these times when the real thing for real reasons is so hard to come by.
 

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Get your award hung yet?

yup!

 

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I hate to tell (no, I dont. In fact, I love to tell you) that I don't need to go back to school. I benefit from a BRITISH education in a BRITISH school.


Which explains the reason you are making a fool of yourself.

I never said it did. I said the 1689 Bill of Rights - the greatest Bill of Rights in the world - influenced the US Constitution.


Partially correct.

The first battles of the American Revolution were fought when British troops went into the countryside to steal colonist arms, under the direction of the Crown (indirectly)..

The Americans were smart enough to realize thereafter that any Bill of Rights that exists at the pleasure of gov't is useless.......and made their Bill of Rights (the actual best Bill of Rights in existence) a list of "inalienable" rights, real limitations on the power of the elite. So, to the extent that they copied the Bill of Rights of 1689 in many ways, you are correct.....but they not only copied it, they improved it, and made it actually an effective tool in the defense of their rights.

I'll help fill in some of the rest of the gaps in your wonderous British education later.
 

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I'm only dishing out inconvenient truths that you don't find in any American history school textbook.



What? You mean like the Falklands War in 1982? Or the Crimean War? Or the Opium War? Or Agincourt?

The more you post the more I believe you are Royalty. A true Blue Blood.

I'm only dishing out inconvenient truths that you don't find in any American history school textbook.



What? You mean like the Falklands War in 1982? Or the Crimean War? Or the Opium War? Or Agincourt?

Ah the Crimean
More British stupidity.

Crimean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Criticisms and reform
A tinted lithograph by William Simpson illustrating conditions of the sick and injured in Balaklava

The Crimean War was notorious for the military and logistical immaturity of the British army. However, it highlighted the work of women who served as army nurses. War correspondents for newspapers reported the scandalous treatment of wounded soldiers in the desperate winter that followed and prompted the work of Florence Nightingale, Mary Seacole, Frances Margaret Taylor and others and led to the introduction of modern nursing methods.

The Crimean War also saw the first tactical use of railways and other modern inventions such as the electric telegraph, with the first "live" war reporting to The Times by William Howard Russell. Some credit Russell with prompting the resignation of the sitting British government through his reporting of the lacklustre shape of the British forces deployed to the Crimea. Additionally, the telegraph reduced the independence of British overseas possessions from their commanders in London due to such rapid communications. Newspaper readership informed public opinion in the United Kingdom and France as never before.[43] It was the first European war to be photographed.

The war also employed modern military tactics, such as trenches and blind artillery fire. The use of the Minié ball for shot, coupled with the rifling of barrels, greatly increased Allied rifle range and damage.
 

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BL is a good guy. He's a throwback to a better era...I know the feeling. He's watching what he loves disintegrate. To that extent he is at least self-aware. Much of his aggression is simply displacement. Like I said, I know the feeling.
 

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BT,

The modern Democratic Party is called the party of Jefferson and Jackson. You remember Jackson don't you? He was famous for the Trail of Tears for so many First Peoples in the Southeast.

I blame Obama for the bubonic plague, Pearl Harbor, and My Lai.



I think the entire Universe agrees 1000% with those statements.
 

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Man this place is like the WWE. When did Blackleaf become a bad guy?

ROTFLMAO

Mr. Arrogance??

Our own Piers Morgan, combining everything we love to hate about idiotic English arrogance and stupidity in one entity.........

Although I do like a lot of his posts quoting articles, everytime he opens his mouth...

Reminds me of something my Irish friend told me once..

"Everytime I get to thinking maybe the Brits aren't really all that bad, I meet another one."
 

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All that and the Brits are still not known for being intelligent.



The British are the people who invented things such as the computer, the World Wide Web, the train, the lightbulb, the friction match, the telephone, the jet engine, the lawnmower, the cardiac pacemaker, the television, the microwave oven, fuel cells, concrete, stainless steel, the modern central heating unit, plastic, the slide rule, the modern toilet, the tank, the fighter aircraft, the torpedo, the sniper rifle, immunisation, blood transfusions, the ambrotype, the callotype, the steroscope, the collodion process, the movie projector, the motion picture projector, the US Navy, the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Zimbabwe (and lots of other countries), modern atomic theory, the mathematical equals sign, Anglicanism, Methodism, the Quakers, the Faraday cage, calculus, the seismograph, the weather map, the corkscrew, the lightswitch, the mousetrap, the electric toaster, the refrigerator, the kaleidoscope, the tin can, the magnifying glass, the thermos flask, the fire extinguisher, the folding carton, the internal combustion engine, the microchip, HTML, HTTP, the typewriter, shorthand, the pencil, holography, punk rock, glam rock, heavy metal, the Christmas card, the Valentines card, the sewing machine, the water frame, the Spinning Jenny, the Spinning Mule, hypnotism, Bovril, football, cricket, rugby, golf, real tennis, lawn tennis, darts, hockey, ice hockey, baseball, boxing, table tennis, polo, Thoroughbred Horseracing, rounders, netball, bowls, the modern Olympics, the Paralympics, the Lonsdale Belt and the splitting of the atom.

IN SHORT, BRITAIN INVENTED THE MODERN WORLD.

We discovered gravity, Hawking radiation, oxygen, hydrogen, the proton, the electron, the neutron, evolution, Uranus, Triton, Saturn's "white spot", black holes, binary stars, spiral galaxies, Halley's Comet, sunspots, the structure of DNA, introns, sodium, potassium, boron, benzene, aluminium, isotopes, penicillin, that the mosquito is the carrier of malaria.

IN SHORT, BRITAIN DISCOVERED THE WORLD

I can't think of any other country ever to have contributed so much to the worlds of invention and science as GREAT Britain. If it hadn't been for those "unintelligent" Brits the world would still be living in the 16th Century.

It will be very difficult to escape British genius in your day to day life, so don't even bother. Using this computer means you are benefitting from British genius. Watching telly later on means you are benefitting from British genius. Sending Christmas cards in the run up to Christmas means you are benefitting from British genius. Watching baseball and ice hockey means you are benefitting from British genius. The Americans having the USN defend them means they are benefitting from British genius. Putting your bread in the toaster in the morning means you are benefitting from British genius. Having your injection against flu means you are benefitting from British genius. Eating your meals with your stainless steel cutlery means you are benefitting from British genius.

It is IMPOSSIBLE, in other words, to escape from the creations and discoveries most ingenious, most inventive and most industrious race of people to have ever existed.

It is a little arrogant to refer to Mandela as a thug!

Yeah? Try telling that to the family of the unborn child that the terrorist organisation which he headed murdered. I'm sure they'd appreciate your disgusting admiration for him.

The US assisted the Brits in the Malvinas.

When was the last time that America or Canada fought a war on their own against an enemy and won, as the British did in 1982? I can't ever recall it happening. Unlike Britain, America and Canada have only ever won wars when they've had other countries fighting with them.

George Washington’s Picture in British Outhouses: an honor? After a long struggle, the American Colonists defeated the mighty British Empire. The world was shocked. The British, obviously were embarrassed and angry.
To show their disdain for the American Military General - George Washington - someone began the custom of hanging Washington’s picture in their “Out-House”
Ethan Allen, the Great American Military Hero went to England to see. When he found this was true GUESS WHAT HE SAID?
“It is most appropriately hung, as nothing ever made the British sh*t like the sight of George Washington.”
Washington, upon hearing what his loyal officer had said, simply smiled!


I'll ask again: What do the Americans have to be proud about over the fact that, in supposedly fighting for "democracy", they went against the wishes of the vast majority of the colonials - they were being anti-democratic - by rebelling against the British? The vast majority of the colonials were proud to be British, had no problem playing the miniscule amount of taxes that Britons in Britain had to pay, and were NOT in favour of a rebellion. Yet an out-of-touch minority took the pro-British majority into a rebellion that they didn't want. The American "Revolution" was nothing but a two fingers to democracy by a selfish, self-thinkng minority. Not surprisingly, you never hear any of this in an American textbook. They have you believe that the overwhelming majority of the colonials wanted independence. But it's nonsense. The American rebels were the bad guys in the conflict. The British were the good guys. The British were fighting for the vast majority of the colonials who didn't want a rebellion. We were on the side of democracy.

I've asked this question before on here but, unsurprisingly, I've not had a satisfactory answer.

The Americans were smart enough to realize thereafter that any Bill of Rights that exists at the pleasure of gov't is useless.......and made their Bill of Rights (the actual best Bill of Rights in existence) a list of "inalienable" rights, real limitations on the power of the elite. So, to the extent that they copied the Bill of Rights of 1689 in many ways, you are correct.....but they not only copied it, they improved it, and made it actually an effective tool in the defense of their rights.

Herw we go. More soppy American romanticism. It doesn't work with me, I'm afraid.

The Britsh Bill of Rights is far superior to its American counterpart. That is shown by the fact that the British Bill of Rights influenced the American one, not vice versa. The Yanks saw so many good things in our Bill of Rights that they copied them. If the British Bill of Rights was so inferior, the Yankee Doodles wouldn't have seen so many things on it to copy. The British Bill of Rights is one reason why Britain is a much more democratic country than the United States.

Here's another thing I forgot to put into that list of Great British inventions - freedom.
 
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Being farmers and such the Canadians stopped when it began to snow, the girls took over then and served the Yanks lots of Indian Firewater and by spring all the battle-plans were known.
 

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a list of "inalienable" rights, real limitations on the power of the elite.
How has that been working out for them since Dec.23, 1913?
The revolt was even to limit the powers of the ones that were already the eilte in the new land called America.

Bull****. The US is made up of land that the Americans stole from other countries.
Who stole it from the original residents. Are you going to claim that England had no boats involved in the exploration of the new world, and the genocide that followed by the armies financed by the Royalty.