That Pesky North Korea Issue

Ocean Breeze

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Hauling ashes away?


Really?? I don't see and links so did you Sherlock that out by yourself??
What changes if they are both reading from a script prepared by some un-named (as yet) 3rd party??
Actually, Kimmy is pushing a number of leaders buttons. Very few seem to know how to handle him........if he can be handled.

Can this poor changing planet even handle a nuke event?? We have enough Natural disasters happening without creating man made ones. (IMHO)

Trump is saying (no link....just CTV news )that words are not effective with Kimmy. ( Not a direct quote) ;-)
 

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Actually, Kimmy is pushing a number of leaders buttons. Very few seem to know how to handle him........if he can be handled.

Can this poor changing planet even handle a nuke event?? We have enough Natural disasters happening without creating man made ones. (IMHO)

Trump is saying (no link....just CTV news )that words are not effective with Kimmy. ( Not a direct quote) ;-)


Kimmy WILL meet his "Waterloo". He's definitely not the brightest candle on the cake......................between that and being a supercilious little prick will result in his early demise! :) :)
 

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Thankfully for South Korea and Japan some rational people surround Trump ............



.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Wednesday that the United States was not out of diplomatic solutions with North Korea, just hours after President Donald Trump tweeted that “talking is not the answer.”

When asked by reporters before a meeting with his South Korean counterpart at the Pentagon if the United States was out of diplomatic solutions with North Korea, Mattis replied: “No.”

“We are never out of diplomatic solutions. We continue to work together, and the minister and I share a responsibility to provide for the protection of our nations, our populations, and our interests,” Mattis added.

Mattis says U.S. not out of diplomatic solutions with North Korea | Reuters

 
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Ocean Breeze

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North Korea apparently conducts another nuclear test, South Korea says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...utType=default-article&utm_term=.82bf360377e7


Meanwhile the Trump gang issues mixed messages regarding the issue. Depending on Donald's Twitter mood.

Most realistic option might be to accept NK as Nuke nation. The American inconsistency does not help the situation.

What happened to trump believing that Kim was starting to respect us"?? Like what planet does this bozo live on??

NK is making progress with THEIR plans rapidly
 

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I see it as a regional issue. Let SK and Japan deal with it instead of running crying to the US$ that big bad Kimmy is disrespecting them.
 

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I see it as a regional issue. Let SK and Japan deal with it instead of running crying to the US$ that big bad Kimmy is disrespecting them.
It might be more than just a regional issue due to the fact that the US is the target of NK angst. ( and potential NUKE weaponry.
 

OpposingDigit

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This is all hysteria!

North Korea does not need nuclear weapons to destroy South Korea or Japan.

They only need to hit their nuclear power reactors with conventional weapons, and both South Korea and Japan would be inhabitable for an enternity.

That is why Israel is so paranoid about Lebanon. All the thousands of rockets that Hezbollah has will be targeting the Dimona nuclear plant and infrastructure inside Israel.

And take note ..... Japan is already uninhabitable at this very moment. I am quite certain that we are not being told the truth about the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant Disaster. Fukushima has been spewing heated vapor containing the most lethal radiation content known to mankind for more than 6 years now. The heated vapor, (steam) is entering the air and then cooling and returning to earth as rain. The wind is blowing through the mountain passes and into Tokyo and contaminating the complete island.

Because the world is not equipped to handle 35 million refugees, we are being denied the truth.

For this fact not to be true, would mean that we would need to believe that the wind has never blown towards Tokyo from the disaster site for the past 6 years.

In the 1950's, the Eastman Kodak Company had threatened a federal lawsuit over the nuclear fallout resulting from a total of 235 above-ground bomb tests that was fogging Kodak's bulk film shipments. Film was not packed in bubble wrap then, but in corn stalks that were being contaminated by nuclear fallout.

As a result of the threatened lawsuit, the U.S. government chose to warn the photographic film industry about the radioactive fallout patterns in advance, but not the general public.

Calm
 

Walter

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This is all hysteria!

North Korea does not need nuclear weapons to destroy South Korea or Japan.

They only need to hit their nuclear power reactors with conventional weapons, and both South Korea and Japan would be inhabitable for an enternity.

That is why Israel is so paranoid about Lebanon. All the thousands of rockets that Hezbollah has will be targeting the Dimona nuclear plant and infrastructure inside Israel.

And take note ..... Japan is already uninhabitable at this very moment. I am quite certain that we are not being told the truth about the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant Disaster. Fukushima has been spewing heated vapor containing the most lethal radiation content known to mankind for more than 6 years now. The heated vapor, (steam) is entering the air and then cooling and returning to earth as rain. The wind is blowing through the mountain passes and into Tokyo and contaminating the complete island.

Because the world is not equipped to handle 35 million refugees, we are being denied the truth.

For this fact not to be true, would mean that we would need to believe that the wind has never blown towards Tokyo from the disaster site for the past 6 years.

In the 1950's, the Eastman Kodak Company had threatened a federal lawsuit over the nuclear fallout resulting from a total of 235 above-ground bomb tests that was fogging Kodak's bulk film shipments. Film was not packed in bubble wrap then, but in corn stalks that were being contaminated by nuclear fallout.

As a result of the threatened lawsuit, the U.S. government chose to warn the photographic film industry about the radioactive fallout patterns in advance, but not the general public.

Calm
Pure bullshit.
 

Murphy

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OB is fearmongering. Thankfully, few people will succumb.

Your irrational hatred for Trump colours all your posts here. I think you are more of a nutbar than he is. Thankfully, he has his finger on the trigger of your salvation. Or perhaps you'll just see a bunch of pretty colours as your consciousness recedes into the plasma.

Here's an anti-war song for you.

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The Burtle Beast of Evermore

Like so many times before,
In the village here,
In Evermore,
The burtle beast,
Would start his feast,
In the blackness of the night.

The first to go was Timid Jimmy.
The ground shook,
And then redound.
We could hear the burtle beast,
Coming up from underground!

The monks prayed,
And started chanting,
But the beast was guided by their ranting.
The holy men were like a beacon,
In the night!

Then there came a thump!
And a great, earthshaking flump!
As the beast burst out of hell,
From far below!

One hundred full feet long,
Or maybe more.
A black, unholy thing,
That that killed for sport,
And loved the gore.

With yellow eyes,
And mottled skin.
A serpent's tongue,
In search of sin.

It would feed upon our fears,
And failing faith.

Then the burtle beast of Evermore,
Used its teeth,
Just like a fleam!
And consumed the screaming monks,
Each,
One by one.

Father 'Blessed Are the Faithful',
Watched in horror at the sight,
And his eyes welled up with holy tears.
But nothing could protect him,
From the monster’s malefic feeding.
The burtle beast fast devoured the saintly peer!

Then the snake heaved up a sound,
And one hundred souls were drowned.
The carnage rocked our tiny village,
By the sea.

But just as the terror came,
It disappeared again,
Leaving us to tremble,
In the dark.

Dear God, what have we done,
That You would see us shunned?
What must we do,
To gain Your trust,
And save our souls?

And we wait daily for a sign,
Praying for that time,
But like tomorrow,
The answer never comes!

- Murphy, 2016


 

MHz

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Tell them the meeting is on the other side of the river that they have to swim across to attend. If that doesn't show that the military on a global scale isn't anything but show that should do it. A very expensive show at at.

Here is another clue in that it goes on year, after year, after year and there is always a global enemy that never gets defeated. Who can't see through the bullshit?? Spend that same amount inhouse and see what improvement could have been made year, after year, after year.

$1,570,000,000,000: how much the world spent on arms this year*
 

OpposingDigit

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I replied to .Walter yesterday, and some popup stated something about moderation ....


Now, 12 hours later, my reply or post is still not visible.


I worked hard putting the info together in order to frame my reply to .Walter.

Maybe I could try a repost?

Calm
 

taxslave

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I replied to .Walter yesterday, and some popup stated something about moderation ....


Now, 12 hours later, my reply or post is still not visible.


I worked hard putting the info together in order to frame my reply to .Walter.

Maybe I could try a repost?

Calm

That is a waste of bandwidth.
 

OpposingDigit

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There is no "Fix" for Fukushima. The "Fix" has not been invented yet.

I personally believe that we are only being told a tiny fraction of truth as per this nuclear disaster. I believe that the complete island is being contaminated. Let us not forget that the nuclear reactors are still deteriorating and are still puffing radiated steam containing cesium.

And as the radiated steam is entering the air, it is blowing towards the capital city of Tokyo which is the upcoming Olympics site in 2020.

Because there are no mountains to prevent it. The steam is then condensing to liquid rain and it drizzles onto the streets of Tokyo.

Problems Keep Piling Up in Fukushima
"An estimated 13 million cubic meters of toxic soil is yet to be collected and technicians have yet to solve the contamination issue inside the Fukushima-1 Nuclear Power Plant. Government and industry officials acknowledge cleaning everything up -- including decommissioning the crippled reactors -- will take at least another 40 years and cost as much as $250 billion."
By Steve Herman
February 17, 2016
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Where is Japan gonna store this waste for a hundred thousand years or more? If they choose to incinerate the waste, it will emit at least 2 billion becquerals of radiation into the air.

Fukushima – Deep Trouble
"Imagine the following scenario: 207 million cardboard book boxes, end-to-end, circumnavigating Earth, like railroad tracks, going all the way around the planet. That’s a lot of book boxes. Now, fill the boxes with radioactive waste. Forthwith, that’s the amount of radioactive waste stored unsheltered in one-tonne black bags throughout Fukushima Prefecture, amounting to 9,000,000 cubic metres"
By Robert Hunziker
February 22, 2016
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The Unit 4 fuel pool which contains at least 6 thousand fuel rods has been left hanging 100 feet in the air. At any moment that fuel rod pool could come crashing to the ground.

Scientists say that the fuel extraction will only start in four years.

They keep talking about using robots to remove the fuel rods, but the robots with this capability have not even been invented yet. They did send in a few amateur robots and they melted from the extreme heat.

"Remote-controlled robots have been sent into the reactor cores on reconnaissance missions to find out how much nuclear fuel is inside. But the radioactivity affected their wiring and they failed to return."

"The molten cores of those reactors melted down to a stage called corium, which is a lumpy hunk of irradiating radionuclides so deadly that robotic cameras are zapped! The radioactivity is powerful, deadly and possessed of frightening longevity, 100s of years...."
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They have found cesium-137 in Bluefish tuna on the west coast of the U.S.

The Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey released data up to January 21, 2013, and which revealed that 44.2 percent of 94,975 children sampled had thyroid ultrasound abnormalities. 36 percent have abnormal growths – cysts or nodules.

I believe that the entire island of Japan has been contaminated and that the world is not equipped to handle 35 million "Boat People" like those from Vietnam in the 1980's, so we are being lied to.

I think that for the past 3 years the only thing that has been happening at Fukushima is that they are just cooling the fuel rods with seawater.

Japan just keeps increasing what is called "acceptable" levels of radiation in order to maintain order.

If the U.S. has satelites which are capable of reading a licence plate in the dark, then they must know the complete damage.

All they can do is keep pouring water onto the fuel rods to keep them from melting down. And, this will need to continue for the next 100 thousand years while praying and waiting for the next earthquake and perhaps (in their view) luckily dump the complete Fukushima site into the ocean.

Just recently, we were told that the top people at the plant were giving improper radiation level readings since 2011 because they didn't know how to read the radiation meters properly.

Every nuclear scientist is terrified to speak out because they will never be invited to another nuclear conference and their careers will be destroyed. No nuclear scientist with only one phd after their names will go up against someone with 2 phd's after their name.

When the Japanese premier took over the responsibility of the plant, he suggested that the reasons for the delays in getting control thus far was because of not investing enough money into the effort. So, he promised to spend 500 million and the world sat back and relaxed.

This is all propaganda ...... the world will say what is necessary to prevent a 100 million nuclear refugees leaving the island in fear. The world is not equipped to handle millions of boat people. The Upper Class are leaving in droves, while the rest choose to remain while living in ignorance.

The world media are "Narrating" the storyline which are vacant of any facts.

The U.S. has severely cut back radiation monitoring on the West Coast since the accident.

There is no "independent" nuclear monitoring agency.

WHO, not too incidentally, has a formal arrangement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), in place since both were established at the UN in the 1950s, to say nothing about issues involving radiation without clearing it with the IAEA, which was set up to specifically promote atomic energy.

According to the IAEA, the limit for public radiation exposure is 1 mSv per year:

"The dose limits for practices are intended to ensure that no individual is committed to unacceptable risk due to radiation exposure. For the public the limit is 1 mSv in a year, or in special circumstances up to 5 mSv in a single year provided that the average does over five consecutive years does not exceed 1 mSv per year."

At Fukushima, they’re dealing with 1,000 mSv/hour.

Thus far, the estimated cost of the clean up is said to be at least 250 billion dollars.

The Unit 4 fuel pool which contains at least 6 thousand fuel rods which are now hanging 100 feet in the air. At any moment that fuel rod pool could come crashing to the ground. And at this point in time the robots required to remove this threat have not even been invented yet.

With North Korea the threat is said to be "Urgent" while in Japan the threat is said to be "a domestic issue", even though radiated debris is washing up on the West Coast.