As if any President (Republican or Democrat) has that much power, they are all tarred with the same brush who do what they are told! :smile: Anyway it's a moot point as 90 cents down there is as good as a buck up here!
Thank-you, Mr. President
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As if any President (Republican or Democrat) has that much power, they are all tarred with the same brush who do what they are told! :smile: Anyway it's a moot point as 90 cents down there is as good as a buck up here!
There ya go.. a thread dedicated to you.. drone attacks.
Pentagon, CIA Sued for Lethal Drone Attacks on U.S. Citizens
Obama Drops 2009 Pledge to Withdraw Combat Troops From Iraq by Gareth Porter -- Antiwar.com
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Seventeen months after President Barack Obama pledged to withdraw all combat brigades from Iraq by Sept. 1, 2010, he quietly abandoned that pledge Monday, admitting implicitly that such combat brigades would remain until the end of 2011.
Obama declared in a speech to disabled U.S. veterans in Atlanta that “America’s combat mission in Iraq” would end by the end of August, to be replaced by a mission of “supporting and training Iraqi security forces.”
That statement was in line with the pledge he had made on Feb. 27, 2009, when he said, “Let me say this as plainly as I can: by Aug. 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end.”
In the sentence preceding that pledge, however, he had said, “I have chosen a timeline that will remove our combat brigades over the next 18 months.” Obama said nothing in his speech Monday about withdrawing “combat brigades” or “combat troops” from Iraq until the end of 2011.
Even the concept of “ending the U.S. combat mission” may be highly misleading, much like the concept of “withdrawing U.S. combat brigades” was in 2009.
Under the administration’s definition of the concept, combat operations will continue after August 2010, but will be defined as the secondary role of U.S. forces in Iraq. The primary role will be to “advise and assist” Iraqi forces.''
Obama is vague - he says "starts" to withdraw troops but not necessarily to remove every last troop by 2009 or 2010 or whenever. To me, that's still not good enough.
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A thought occurred to me: several conservative Canadians on this forum have decried the amount of socialism their country has thanks to liberals and liberalism (this is marked contrast to all the prevailing right wing ideology we have in the USA). If true, then we have Canadian liberals, not Obama nor Bush to thank for the increased standard of living your country enjoys.
Canadians are richer than Americans is a false assumption. The only reason that statement is true is because of 'home values'.
It's not like we have higher wages resulting in more disposable income.
Didn't I just read an article declaring that Canadians have 162% debt.
I was recently speaking to a fellow worker from the east indian community and he had an interesting comment. He said "all these people are poor in their home country but rich in Canada". He was referring to the debt load these people are taking on.
I responded that it's not just that community accumulating this level of debt load.
Household debt loads are getting heavier.
The ratio of household credit market debt-to-personal disposable income hit a record 148.1 per cent in the third quarter from 143.4 per cent in the prior quarter,Statistics Canada said Monday. Much of the reason stemmed from a 1.5-per-cent drop in disposable income.
Household debt ratio hits record - The Globe and Mail
And did anyone mention Oilberta? Has anyone contemplated what Canada would look like without Oil? Our manufacturing has been outsourced to anywhere with $1.00 a day wages which has only enabled the 'outsourcers' to reap even more cash to stash in their secret bank accounts around the globe.
I thought I made a middle wage so I am surprised at all of the other people buying homes for $400,000.00 plus, driving new foreign made SUV's etc.,without even thinking about it.
I guess everyone is doing a lot better than me.
And just how long do you think the Conservatives will allow this concept of Canadians being richer stand, if it was accurate....?
First, facts about Canada. Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it. Canadians make no connection between the fact that they are a Northern European welfare state and the fact that we have very low economic growth, a standard of living substantially lower than yours, a massive brain drain of young professionals to your country, and double the unemployment rate of the United States.
The Tyee – Canada through Stephen Harper's Eyes
It's not like we have higher wages resulting in more disposable income.
Didn't I just read an article declaring that Canadians have 162% debt.
I was recently speaking to a fellow worker from the east indian community and he had an interesting comment. He said "all these people are poor in their home country but rich in Canada". He was referring to the debt load these people are taking on.
I responded that it's not just that community accumulating this level of debt load.
Household debt loads are getting heavier.
The ratio of household credit market debt-to-personal disposable income hit a record 148.1 per cent in the third quarter from 143.4 per cent in the prior quarter,Statistics Canada said Monday. Much of the reason stemmed from a 1.5-per-cent drop in disposable income.
Household debt ratio hits record - The Globe and Mail
And did anyone mention Oilberta? Has anyone contemplated what Canada would look like without Oil? Our manufacturing has been outsourced to anywhere with $1.00 a day wages which has only enabled the 'outsourcers' to reap even more cash to stash in their secret bank accounts around the globe.
I thought I made a middle wage so I am surprised at all of the other people buying homes for $400,000.00 plus, driving new foreign made SUV's etc.,without even thinking about it.
I guess everyone is doing a lot better than me.
And just how long do you think the Conservatives will allow this concept of Canadians being richer stand, if it was accurate....?
First, facts about Canada. Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it. Canadians make no connection between the fact that they are a Northern European welfare state and the fact that we have very low economic growth, a standard of living substantially lower than yours, a massive brain drain of young professionals to your country, and double the unemployment rate of the United States.
The Tyee – Canada through Stephen Harper's Eyes
Yea too bad junior wasn't still in control. The US could have applied for third world status by now and had UN sending aid.
Don't forget that our conservatives are roughly on par with the most left of Dems in the US. When we refer to socialists we mean really out in left field.
Don't forget that our conservatives are roughly on par with the most left of Dems in the US. When we refer to socialists we mean really out in left field.
The Americans have to pay for a war machine, while we don't, and we have the benefits of a resource boom. But what will happen when the boom ends?
Here's something interesting: a praise of our health system by an ex-american. (tweeted by Michael Moore yesterday)
Permission to Live: How I lost my fear of Universal Health Care
What will Canadians do when Mexicans discover the existence of Canada? When they find out about places like Victoria, Vancouver, and Whistler they'll run for the border.
To go to any of those places they would have to like working in dead end low paying jobs.
I have mentioned this before on numerous occasions in this forum but certain folks refused to believe it even though I have also previously quoted from Fox on this:
Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn
BBC News - Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn
A global super-rich elite had at least $21 trillion (£13tn) hidden in secret tax havens by the end of 2010, according to a major study.
The figure is equivalent to the size of the US and Japanese economies combined.
The Price of Offshore Revisited was written by James Henry, a former chief economist at the consultancy McKinsey, for the Tax Justice Network.
Tax expert and UK government adviser John Whiting said he was sceptical that the amount hidden was so large.
Mr Whiting, director of the Office of Tax Simplification, said: "There clearly are some significant amounts hidden away, but if it really is that size what is being done with it all?"
Mr Henry said his $21tn is actually a conservative figure and the true scale could be $32tn. A trillion is 1,000 billion.
Mr Henry used data from the Bank of International Settlements, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, and national governments.
His study deals only with financial wealth deposited in bank and investment accounts, and not other assets such as property and yachts.
The report comes amid growing public and political concern about tax avoidance and evasion. Some authorities, including in Germany, have even paid for information on alleged tax evaders stolen from banks.
The group that commissioned the report, Tax Justice Network, campaigns against tax havens.
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Just as I have written before: there is no need for stimulus checks, tax decreases or tax increases, or any other form of corporate welfare in this society. Wealth has never and will NEVER trickle down contrary to the lies of the far right. Therefore, the way to solve society's economic problems is to end the corporate welfare state by calling back all that capital. As for the failure to do this, blame everyone in politics who lacks the guts and honesty to admit that this is the truth.
Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn
BBC News - Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn
A global super-rich elite had at least $21 trillion (£13tn) hidden in secret tax havens by the end of 2010, according to a major study.
The figure is equivalent to the size of the US and Japanese economies combined.
The Price of Offshore Revisited was written by James Henry, a former chief economist at the consultancy McKinsey, for the Tax Justice Network.
Tax expert and UK government adviser John Whiting said he was sceptical that the amount hidden was so large.
Mr Whiting, director of the Office of Tax Simplification, said: "There clearly are some significant amounts hidden away, but if it really is that size what is being done with it all?"
Mr Henry said his $21tn is actually a conservative figure and the true scale could be $32tn. A trillion is 1,000 billion.
Mr Henry used data from the Bank of International Settlements, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, and national governments.
His study deals only with financial wealth deposited in bank and investment accounts, and not other assets such as property and yachts.
The report comes amid growing public and political concern about tax avoidance and evasion. Some authorities, including in Germany, have even paid for information on alleged tax evaders stolen from banks.
The group that commissioned the report, Tax Justice Network, campaigns against tax havens.
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Just as I have written before: there is no need for stimulus checks, tax decreases or tax increases, or any other form of corporate welfare in this society. Wealth has never and will NEVER trickle down contrary to the lies of the far right. Therefore, the way to solve society's economic problems is to end the corporate welfare state by calling back all that capital. As for the failure to do this, blame everyone in politics who lacks the guts and honesty to admit that this is the truth.
First we begin with talking about how Obama made the country poor, Well the
Bush Administreation set the stage for American poverty through his inability
to understand how the world works.
Oh before I forget, I think drone attacks are the way to go, hit these people
where ever and when ever they can, and if they kill a few others remember the
old sayin "you are known by the company you keep" If you don't hang out with
terrorists you won't be droned.
Back to the topic. Walter should be preparing the excuses ahead of time for
when the bottom falls out in Canada. Its coming and fast, Harper has saved us
from nothing. Europe is about to go in the tank, China is experiencing the
beginning of a slowdown as is India and America will be hit with the other half
of the big recession this fall. Canada under the present government has racked
up more debt than even the Liberals before them managed to do. There won't
be any money to help people we spent it all on planes and other such things of
feel good value.
If it continues, the present federal government will be as hated as the present
BC Liberal Government. Obama has the biggest dung heap in history and some
want to blame him, what a joke. Listening to Michelle Bachmann makes one
truly wonder about the present state of conservatism. I think there is a conspiracy
they have been invaded by the old loony left. Remember the loony left has been
quiet for a while.
Bush Administreation set the stage for American poverty through his inability
to understand how the world works.
Oh before I forget, I think drone attacks are the way to go, hit these people
where ever and when ever they can, and if they kill a few others remember the
old sayin "you are known by the company you keep" If you don't hang out with
terrorists you won't be droned.
Back to the topic. Walter should be preparing the excuses ahead of time for
when the bottom falls out in Canada. Its coming and fast, Harper has saved us
from nothing. Europe is about to go in the tank, China is experiencing the
beginning of a slowdown as is India and America will be hit with the other half
of the big recession this fall. Canada under the present government has racked
up more debt than even the Liberals before them managed to do. There won't
be any money to help people we spent it all on planes and other such things of
feel good value.
If it continues, the present federal government will be as hated as the present
BC Liberal Government. Obama has the biggest dung heap in history and some
want to blame him, what a joke. Listening to Michelle Bachmann makes one
truly wonder about the present state of conservatism. I think there is a conspiracy
they have been invaded by the old loony left. Remember the loony left has been
quiet for a while.
Did you actually go to the Globe and Mail article? The reason for the difference is due to the value of housing. You're blaming Obama for the housing bubble? :lol:
Can I have my negative 1 now? I feel I've earned it.
Stick to your knitting, you ain't gots a clue. The Bamster has been in charge close to 4 years and there isn't an improvement happening. I know, I'm just being racist when I put the blame on the Bamster.
What are you talking about? The poor have the best health care of all and they do not pay a dime.
That's not what I saw in the documentary "Sicko". Medicine cost also seams much higher than everywhere else.
I understand that he's not liked by the right wing, in general they're his main target. He's not a genius but he brings up some good facts I think.
Obama caused this? lmao How deluded can you get?
Sorry, Wally, but it goes back much earlier than Obama and has its roots in big business and US gov't in general (not strictly a presidential thing).
But..but...Politicians are soooo quick to take credit when the economy takes a good turn
Yep. lolBut..but...Politicians are soooo quick to take credit when the economy takes a good turn