Thames threatens thousands in UK
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About two thirds of floating ice is under water.
Sea ice displaces the water around it. I think this is known as the Archimedes principle.
When sea ice melts the amount of meltwater is equal to the amount of water that it displaced as a solid.
Melting sea ice doesn't cause sea levels to rise, just as melting ice cubes don't cause the level of the drink in your glass to rise.
Another woman from the Met Office now saying the bad weather here is caused by the jet stream and cold air coming from North America.
Again, not "climate change."
It's getting windy now. A couple of wheelie bins on the street outside have just been blown over and loads of blue plastic cider bottles came falling out (somebody likes their cider). The wind has just blown all these cider bottles right across the street.
I should have purpled that.
I hope you're high and dry.
The magnetosphere has been moving the jetstream as the magnetic north pole keeps on moving rapidly.
I hope you're high and dry.
The magnetosphere has been moving the jetstream as the magnetic north pole keeps on moving rapidly.
Coming to their aid: The Royal Engineers rescue residents in flood-hit Egham, Surrey
Britain was today braced for a ‘Wild Wednesday’ of severe storms and rising water levels, with no prospect of an end to the misery in sight.
The Met Office has issued a red weather warning - the most severe level of threat - for ‘exceptionally strong winds’ of up to 100mph.
The rare alert, which was last issued 13 months ago, is in place for western parts of Wales and some north-western parts of England this evening.
The last red alert overall was issued in January 2013 for snow in the Welsh valleys, but the last red wind alert was in January 2012 for western Scotland.
Just 10 red alerts for all types of weather have been issued since the Met Office warnings system was revamped three years ago in April 2011.
A wind gust of 110mph was recorded today from a ship south of Ireland, while on land 92mph was observed at Mumbles Head at Swansea Bay in Wales.
It comes as these flood and weather warning maps show the true extent of severe weather that has already struck Britain - and what is still to come.
The Government's Cobra emergency committee convened this morning after David Cameron pledged ‘money is no object’ in providing flooding relief.
More than 130,000 people have now backed the Mail’s petition - which you can sign here - for Mr Cameron to use foreign aid cash to tackle flood crisis.
And the Prime Minister has warned that ‘things may get worse before they get better’, with hundreds of flood warnings and alerts still in force.
Read more: UK weather: Shocking map shows flooding threat to thousands of homes near the Thames | Mail Online
Making a splash: Huge waves batter the seafront at Southsea in Portsmouth, Hampshire
Crash: A double-decker bus was teetering on the edge of a roadside bank after leaving the road between Falmouth and Truro in Cornwall after trying to avoid a fallen tree
Gales: A woman battles the wind and rain as she walks past the flooded River Severn, Britain's longest river, in Worcester (top) while another woman struggles in the wind in Swansea, South Wales
Smashed in: A fallen tree has trapped a man in his lorry cab on the A39 near Bridgwater in Somerset. The man is not seriously injured
Severe weather warnings: These Met Office graphics show how high winds are forecast for today and tomorrow, with an red alert for wind out for the North-West today
In profile: This graphic shows the areas along the River Thames, west of London, that have been affected by the horrendous flooding
River Thames woes: Sixteen Environment Agency severe flood warnings - danger to life - remained in place in Berkshire, Surrey and Somerset this morning
Highlighted: A Google Maps overlay of the flooded areas of Somerset as of today. The area is expecting a month's worth of rain in the next few days
From above: This composite satellite image of data from the NASA Terra and Aqua satellites shows three storms approaching the UK as it continues to receive heavy rain
Swirling: A satellite image shows the scale of the storm on the way to Britain (top), while a Met Desk graphic shows the UK gust speeds at 2pm today (bottom)
No use anymore: A broken umbrella is placed in a bin as people struggled with the high winds in the centre of the city of Swansea, South Wales
Hold onto your hats: People battle against the wind in Southwark, central London (top), while the wind looked just as bad in Brighton and Hove, East Sussex (bottom)
Unpleasant: Fierce winds hit Southwark in Central London today as people battled to hold onto their umbrellas, which were turning inside out
Up above: This photograph from a drone at 350ft shows how floods from the River Thames, Britain's second-longest river, have hit the town of Marlow in Buckinghamshire
Well kitted out: Freddy, a boat owner, carries Foxy the dog through floodwater to dry land for a walk in Old Windsor, Berkshire
Getting involved: Armed forces personnel pack and move sand bags at Wraysbury Primary School in Wraysbury, Berkshire
Catch: Around 100 Royal Navy personnel from Royal Navy Air Station Yeovilton, Somerset, have been deployed to assist the multi-agency flood relief effort
Swimming along: A swan on a flooded field this morning next to the River Thames in Windsor, Berkshire
Getting overcome: Lesley Webber, 52, with her friend Chris Napier, 44, outside of her home in the flooded village of East Lyng, Somerset
Coming in: This is the dramatic moment a FlyBe flight landed at Manchester Airport in gale force winds and the wing appeared to clip the ground
Long battle: Mr Napier makes a call outside of the home of Ms Webber, in the flooded village of East Lyng, Somerset
Under water: A rescue co-ordinator said morale and energy had been low in Wraysbury because the Berkshire village had been looking after itself for so long
Read more: UK weather: Shocking map shows flooding threat to thousands of homes near the Thames | Mail Online
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Has wild weather led to a PENGUIN washing up on British shores? Walker claims she spotted bird waddling along beach in Cornwall
Penguin spotted strolling along Polkerris Beach in Cornwall
Penguins are flightless birds which usually live in Southern Hemisphere
By Anna Edwards
12 February 2014
Daily Mail
The UK's freak weather has whipped-up its greatest shock yet - after a walker claimed to have spotted a penguin on a British beach.
Stunned Chantelle Smith, 25, was strolling along Polkerris Beach in Cornwall when she spotted the black and white bird.
She managed to get her phone out just in time to take a picture of the mysterious bird waddling along the sands.
P-p-pick up a penguin at Polkerris beach: Chantelle Smith snapped this image of what she believes is a penguin
Chantelle, of St Blazey in Cornwall, said she believes the creature was a penguin - normally found in Antarctica.
She said: 'I was with a friend walking over to the harbour and I saw it run past.
'At first I thought it was just a rabbit but when I turned on the torch of my phone to have a look I could see it was a penguin - an actual penguin.
Chantelle, of St Blazey in Cornwall, said she believes the creature on Polkerris Beach was a penguin - normally found in Antarctica
'It sat there for ages and I managed to get quite close and take the picture and then ran off. I was just shocked.
'I thought 'that can't be a penguin' but it definitely looked like a penguin. Everybody I have told thinks I am crazy but I am being honest. I am going to call it Pingu.'
Penguins are aquatic, flightless birds, which usually live in the Southern Hemisphere, particularly Antarctica.
A seal swum 20 miles inland into the country market town of Monmouth in Wales
Unexpected visitor: The seal swam into the town after the River Wye burst its banks in the storms
The seal, which has been named Ron (Ronseal) by surprised locals, has been spotted on flooded playing fields in the town
But experts say it could be a case of mistaken identity as guillemots and razorbills are similar in appearance when they walk.
Stewart Muir, director of Newquay Zoo said: 'I can almost certainly tell you what it is and it's not the first time this has happened.
'We have had this before over many years. When Guillemots and Razorbills stand up they look like little penguins.
'They can give a fair impression under water as well as they can swim at great speed using their short wings.'
The alleged penguin's appearance came as a seal swam 20 miles inland into the country market town of Monmouth in Wales after the river Wye burst its banks in the storms.
The seal which has been named Ron by suprised locals has been spotted on flooded playing fields in the town.
Read more: UK weather 'leads to a PENGUIN washing up on British shores' Walker claims she spotted bird waddling along beach in Cornwall | Mail Online
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LATEST FLOODING AND STORM NEWS
Britain facing 'unparalleled' natural disaster
A man was hit by a road sign which fell over on Westgate Street, Cardiff, as the bad weather continues.
The situation is being described by an army chief as an 'unparalleled natural crisis', and that 'battle-group' skills are being applied. Georgia Graham, The Telegraph's political correspondent, reports:
Describing the past few weeks as an 'unparalleled natural crisis' Major General Patrick Sanders, Assistant Chief of Defence Staff, said: “What we have done is make available another 3000, that over and above the 2000 that we have already on standby from the Army, the Navy and the Royal Air force so as we commit people we can draw on another 300 behind that and we have thousands more we can use.
"We put in place a comprehensive national command structure to support the gold, the silver and the bronze layers of command – very simply what we have done is to take five of our regional brigades, and underneath them unit headquarters - the lieutenant colonel and his staff who would normally commanding a battle-group on a battlefield - and here we are throwing them a very different problem, but the organisational skills that they bring are crucial to allow us to get ahead of the problems that we have now got."
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Around 87,000 homes in Wales are without power, as winds reaching 108 mph batter the area. Scottish Power has said that 45,000 homes are without power in North Wales, while Western Power Distribution said 42,000 homes are affected in South Wales.
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Crewe train station in Cheshire has been evacuated and all services stopped after the roof was blown off the station. There were also problems with overhead power lines in the area.
A spokesman for Cheshire Fire and Rescue Service said firefighters were called to Crewe train station after roof panels fell on to overhead lines and caused a small fire.
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Virgin Trains has advised all customers to abandon their travel plans. It has also tweeted that all its services out of London Euston are suspended until further notice.
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A leading weather expert has warned the trees, roof tiles and other debris swept up in 100 miles per hour winds due to hit Britain could kill.
Dr Liz Bentley, chief executive of the Royal Meteorological Society, said that the "extreme" weather is likely to lead to severe transport disruption and power outages.
"Those wind speeds are enough to cause damage to buildings. Tiles and chimney stacks could come off roofs, and trees to come down," she said.
"If trees come down, then you have to think about them falling onto power lines, and electric supply and transport could be disrupted.
"Anything that can be picked up by the storm and blown elsewhere could cause problems. We have heard instances of trampolines being blown onto railway lines and other material smashing windows, and this can have a knock-on effect.
"You sometimes see winds like this in remote areas in Scotland, but it is a concern that populated areas like Anglesey and other towns could be hit."
She added: "The key message is: don't travel unless you have to. It will be dangerous out and about.
"There has been some advance warning, so people just need to batten down the hatches and secure their homes."
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This couple has some handy tips on how to protect your home from flooding, such as the best way to deploy a sandbag and a novel use for your yogurt pots.
How to protect your home from flooding - YouTube
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Manchester City's Premier League match against Sunderland has been postponed just over an hour before kick-off due to adverse weather in the North West.
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Staff from the borough council in Windsor, Berkshire, were tonight delivering portable toilets to streets affected by the floods as people discovered that the toilets in their homes were no longer flushing away.
Nigel Farage inspecting flood damage
UK floods: weather and storms - Telegraph
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This pic broke my heart...
You do?
Do you hope all the p*** has been rescued from the sewers as well?
You do?
Do you hope all the p*** has been rescued from the sewers as well?
If I say its safe to surf this beach, Captain, then its safe to surf this beach! I mean, I'm not afraid to surf this place, I'll surf this whole f*cking place!
Charlie don't surf!
Charlie don't surf!
A Yankee blue belly isn't going to say that, probably something glorifying all the bodies floating by.
What the hell do you know about surfing? You're from goddamned New Jersey!Someday this floods gonna end
Jersey, isn't that where they give you a pair of cement shoes and call them water-skies?
For Warmers, the facts are simple. Bad weather event = proof of global warming. Good weather = you can't prove or disprove global warming by the weather.
According to CTV news the last time the Thames overflowed was 1776 which would explain why the French came to the aid of the American rebels instead of the Brits.
I heard there's 170 km winds. Good thing climate change isn't real. What did you say!?!
( i POSTED IN ALL CAPS TO MAKE A POINT BUT HEY WHO AM i TO DECIDE WHAT I EXPRESS )
Oh this is stupid.
( i POSTED IN ALL CAPS TO MAKE A POINT BUT HEY WHO AM i TO DECIDE WHAT I EXPRESS )
Oh this is stupid.
Actually the principle that Archimedes developed is the buoyant force exerted on a body in a fluid is equal to the weight of the fluid that the body displaces. But you are fairly correct. It isn't the amount of sea ice that would affect the ocean level so much. There are two things that would do that, the ice that is above water and the thermodynamic effect of rising temperatures on the water, IOW, the water expands as it warms. That and displacement is what you were referring to; New Version Available
You need to learn some terms and understand what scientists are actually saying. The ice on Greenland and Antarctica is not sea ice. Discussions of sea level change hinge on the melting ice sheets on Greenland and Antarctica, and thermal expansion of sea water due to the warming of sea water. Those are the two dominant contributors to sea level change.
Though what this has to do with the Thames is beyond me. Do you carry that soap box around with you?
Links please.
Dead wrong. You are forgetting that there are millions of cubic miles of ice are above water.Drop your ice cube into your glass of water and watch the water level rise.
Partially right. Unfortunately, the volume of ice packs in both places has been shrinking. There's a huge difference between area and volume and a huge difference between sea ice and ice packs (or sheets). Area is width times length. Volume is width times length times depth. Arctic ice shrinking in volume, too, ESA reports
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...tic-sea-ice-hit-35-year-record-high-saturday/
Only the ones that are on the low level of intelligence level of a lot of the climate skeptics.
Yeah, what Tonnington said. And I also am wondering what this has to do with the Thames?
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I don't think last night's storm was quite as damaging as what many people feared.
80,000 homes are still without power and at least two people have been killed - a man in his 70s who electrocuted while attempting to move a tree near Chippenham, Wiltshire and a driver, 33, in Macclesfield, Cheshire, after swerving to avoid a tree in a road and crashing into another car.
In the storms earlier this week, eyewitnesses in Lyme Regis said they saw a solid iron cannon which was one of three which were once used to defend the town lifted by a wave and swept away. The cannon has now been recovered.
Repairs are also underway after last night's storm blew slates off the roofs of the "houses" at the brand new set of popular soap opera Coronation Street at MediaCity in Salford, Greater Manchester.
Last night's storm also blew the roof off Crewe train station in Cheshire, where my late grandfather worked for many years as a signalman.
Many areas are also now blanketed in snow, including the beautiful Kielder Forest on the English-Scottish border.
Last night's winter storm, however, isn't the last to hit the UK. Another TWO storms, produced in the "storm factory" on the eastern seaboard of mainland North America, are also crossing the Atlantic and heading this way, with the second due to hit tomorrow evening. That second storm is set to be even more powerful than last night's storm.
In the eye of the storm: Chaos across Britain as 108mph winds leave 130,000 without power, shut motorways and paralyse rail services... and now get ready for a MONTH'S rain in just two days
80,000 households remain without electricity today, with Wales worst affected area by 'Wild Wednesday' storms
Heavy rain now forecast to fall over the next few days thanks to two storms currently heading across Atlantic
Storm kills man in his 70s who was electrocuted while attempting to move a tree near Chippenham, Wiltshire
Driver, 33, dies in Macclesfield, Cheshire, after swerving to avoid a tree in a road and crashing into another car
PM to lead talks on recovery after questions are raised about his claim that 'money is no object' to relief effort
180,000 people back Mail's petition - which you can sign here - for PM to use foreign aid cash to tackle floods
By Mark Duell and Anna Edwards and Matt Chorley and Nick Fagge and Ben Spencer
13 February 2014
Daily Mail
13 February 2014
Daily Mail
Britain faced travel chaos today after flooding, winds exceeding 100mph and torrential rain combined to knock major rail and road services out of service.
Some 80,000 households remained without electricity today, with Wales the worst affected area by the ‘Wild Wednesday’ storms yesterday.
Travellers reported being stuck on trains for hours on end as several of the country's major arteries, including the west coast main line, were shut down.
Heavy rain is now forecast to fall over the next few days thanks to two storms currently heading across the Atlantic.
The storm killed a man in his 70s who was electrocuted while attempting to move a tree which brought down power cables near Chippenham, Wiltshire.
Around Britain: There was more misery for millions travelling to work today with train services severely disrupted and roads closed due to flooding and fallen trees
Swirling: This satellite image received yesterday by the University of Dundee shows the scale of the storm, which covers the entire western side of the UK
Unusual sight: Foam which could be mistaken for snow being blown from the turbulent sea last night - covering homes and cars in Blackpool, Lancashire
Weather havoc: A lorry falls on top of car on the M60 in Greater Manchester last night
Damage: The aftermath of the high winds in Manchester this morning are seen in Chorlton, a suburb of the city
Fallen down: A car wash roof collapsed in the Whalley Range area of Manchester
Damage: Builders inspect the roofs on the new set of TV soap Coronation Street at MediaCity in Salford, Greater Manchester, after slates were blown off
And a 33-year-old driver died in Macclesfield, Cheshire, after swerving to avoid a tree in a road and crashing into another car at around 7am today.
Last night about 130,000 homes and businesses were without power across the country, with 10,000 affected in the North West.
There were also 52,000 in Mid and North Wales, 10,000 in Cheshire, 13,000 in the West Midlands and 19,000 in the South West.
Meanwhile the London Evening Standard reported today that the River Thames was flowing with up to four times its normal power.
Prime Minister David Cameron will lead talks on Britain's recovery from the weather after questions were raised about his claim that ‘money is no object'.
Mr Cameron reiterated his pledge after Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin said yesterday that it was not a ‘blank cheque’.
White effect: A hail storm covers a street in the St Werburghs area of Bristol, looking like snow
All white: Snow falling in Shepton Mallett, Somerset, this morning, after much of the country was hit by high winds and heavy rain
Problems: Penton Hook Weir is surrounded by debris as the River Thames levels remain high in Staines-Upon-Thames, Surrey
Burst its banks: Flood water surrounds housing in Staines-Upon-Thames, Surrey. Water has remained high in some areas and high winds are causing disruption
Firefighters on scene: The roof of the Day's Mobility stop on Gendros Crescent in Swansea that has been ripped off by gale force winds that have been battering Wales
Weather trouble: A snow plough clears snow on the Northumberland border (top) and a house in Northwich, Cheshire, damaged by last night's high winds (botoom)
More than 180,000 people have now backed the Mail’s petition - which you can sign here - for Mr Cameron to use foreign aid cash to tackle flood crisis.
The floods which have wreaked havoc were an ‘almost unparalleled’ natural crisis, army chief Major General Patrick Sanders said, as hundreds of troops help home owners defend their properties from ever-rising waters.
Bank of England governor Mark Carney said the chaos even threatened to derail Britain's economic recovery.
After a brief respite today Britain faces more chaos as another storm brings heavy rain, strong winds and further risk of flooding tomorrow and into the weekend.
Found at low tide: One of three ancient cannons in place to defend Lyme Regis in Dorset, which went missing in the storms earlier this week
Where it once stood: Eye witnesses in Lyme Regis have said they saw the solid iron cannon lifted by a wave and swept away like it was a toy
Blocked: A First Capital Connect photograph of the tunnel where two huge construction drills came through on a major commuter route from Moorgate to Welwyn Garden City near Old Street station in London
Blown over: A Northern Powergrid photograph of damage to a pylon, caused by severe winds overnight, just south of Houghton le Spring, Tyne and Wear
Reopened motorway: Engineers continue to work at the scene of a 15ft hole which appeared on the M2 near Sittingbourne, Kent
Horrendous conditions: Traffic makes its way along Blackpool Promenade along the seafront in Britain's most popular seaside resort in Lancashire during high winds
Spray: A man getting as closer look at the turbulent Blackpool seafront - but getting stuck in the process
Road closed: Waves break over the sea wall at high tide in Aberystwyth, West Wales, as a storm strikes the west of Britain with winds gusting at up to 100 miles per hour in some places
A sign at Euston Train Station advising commuters that all Virgin Train Services have been cancelled as a result of severe weather
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Wrong.
The amount of meltwater produced by melting ice in water is equal to the amount of water that that ice displaces. It makes no difference how much of the ice is below and above the water.
Melting ice will not overflow a glass of water, even if there is ice above the surface of the liquid.
Most of the Arctic ice is floating on the sea. if all that floating Arctic ice - the majority of it - melted, there will be NO change in sea levels, as that meltwater added to the water displaces the water as much as it did when it was a solid.
The Warmists have got it wrong when they say that melting sea ice causes sea levels to rise. Science shows otherwise.
Global Warming, I'm glad to say, is slowly collapsing.