SYRIA: On going Horror

[Danbones]

By the time this blows by, they ( Trump and the real law enforcement types) will know who all the LYING warhawk traitors are in a bipartisan way. In his and other governments too.

They will also know who is funding and controlling them.


SO FAR There has been ZERO, nada, NO PROOF OF A GAS ATTACK. NO TRACE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS in DOUMA. The russians haven't found it either - and they really looked too.
As before, All the photos are retreads.

Just like may and the Skrypals eh?

Remember 2013?
Images of Death in Syria, but No Proof of Chemical Attack
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/world/middleeast/syria.html

Remember today...?
NOW MATTIS ADMITS THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE ASSAD USED POISON GAS ON HIS PEOPLE: OPINION
http://www.newsweek.com/now-mattis-...ence-assad-using-poison-gas-his-people-801542

 

[Danbones]

Bashar Ja'afari (Syria) on the OPCW Fact-Finding Mission to Syria - Media Stakeout (12 April 2018)

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If the russians and syrians were guilty of this they wouldn't be demanding to see the evidence so loudly ( like with the skrypals) and the people who claim they have some ( like macron and may ) would produce it, which it looks like they can't because there isn't any so far.

 

[Twin_Moose]

I am very curious why only children are being filmed as victims of a chemical attack? Was it a daycare center without any adults around?

China Military Tells Russia 'We've Come to Support You' Against U.S.

China's military leadership has pledged its support to Russia as tensions between Moscow and the West further deteriorate into diplomatic isolation, economic sanctions and dueling defense drills.
In his first visit to Russia, newly appointed Chinese Defense Minister Wei Feng attended the seventh Moscow International Security Conference accompanied by a delegation of other high-level military officials. Emphasizing that his trip was coordinated directly with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Wei said that he had two major messages for Russia at a time when both nations were attempting to modernize their armed forces and strengthen their hands in global affairs in spite of U.S. fears.


China Military Tells Russia 'We've Come to Support You' Against U.S.

UN Sources Say Syrian Rebels — Not Assad — Used Sarin Gas

A member of the United Nations commission of inquiry announced on a Swiss-Italian television show that they believe the Syrian rebels have used chemical weapons on Assad's troops.
A member of the United Nations commission of inquiry announced on a Swiss-Italian television show that they believe the Syrian rebels have used chemical weapons on Assad's troops. "Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," said Carla Del Ponte, a member of the commission. "This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities."


https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...t-assad-used-sarin-gas/315588/?utm_source=fbb


The recent gas attack was also carried out by US backed rebels, not Assad. The US is chomping at the bit to start a world war over Syria when in fact they are the culprits who have been interfering in Syrian affairs through their proxy armies in the muddled east. But the sheeple are too brainwashed to think for themselves and will blindly follow the orange madman into oblivion.

If that is a fact......

There is no rational strategy about Syria....... just a lot of words/ threats being tossed around.

Threats and Twitter rants are not strategy. Nor is playing guessing games.

Bashar Ja'afari (Syria) on the OPCW Fact-Finding Mission to Syria - Media Stakeout (12 April 2018)

If the russians and syrians were guilty of this they wouldn't be demanding to see the evidence so loudly ( like with the skrypals) and the people who claim they have some ( like macron and may ) would produce it, which it looks like they can't because there isn't any so far.

Russian Trolls Denied Syrian Gas Attack—Before It Happened

Weeks before the world saw the bodies of men, women, and children dead from an apparent Syrian military chemical attack in Douma, Syria, the Russian military was already spreading bizarre conspiracy theories about an impending “false flag” chemical attack carried out by rebels. Russian conspiracy propaganda and truther chum have been a staple of official discourse whenever Moscow wants to cover up bad behavior by its allies in Damascus. When the Assad regime used sarin nerve agents on the town of Khan Sheikhoun in 2017, Russian officials accused Syrian first responders—a group known as the White Helmets—of fabricating the attacks—saying it was impossible to explain otherwise how the group “managed to work for such a long period of time and remain alive without gas masks and special protection equipment” while documenting the attack.

Russia’s UN Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia has dredged up the same talking points now to label Douma a “pretext” that was “eagerly provided by the White Helmets’ provocateurs.” But this time, the propaganda campaign got a head start—and they’ve even tried to remix old children’s plays and spy novels to make their point.

“What’s perhaps interesting in this one is the way that Russian officialdom started building the narrative on a false flag a month ago,” Ben Nimmo, a researcher at Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab who studies disinformation campaigns, told The Daily Beast. “There’s a measure of foresight and forethought there which is quite interesting.”
Beginning in early March, Russia’s ministry of defense began to claim that it had picked up intelligence about “provocations” planned by Islamist militant groups outside Damascus designed “to accuse government troops of using chemical weapons in the Eastern Ghouta against civilians.” Defense ministry officials later elaborated that the conspiracy to mount false-flag chemical attacks involved a whole cast of characters ranging from U.S. special operations forces operating in the Syrian desert to Free Syrian Army members in the south of the country to al Qaeda members in Idlib Province.

The anticipatory claims about rebel chemical weapons provocations coincided with mounting frustration in the Trump administration over the Assad regime’s continued use of chlorine gas attacks in and around East Ghouta. Reports of Syrian military chemical attacks died down in the months after the Trump administration struck a Syrian air base in retaliation for the sarin attack on Khan Sheikhoun, but began to increase as the Assad regime pressed an operation to take back the northeastern suburbs occupied by rebels.
Russia’s announcement of the false flag conspiracy followed a late February meeting by the Trump administration to consider a potential military response to Syria’s ongoing chemical weapons use, according to The Washington Post.
Russian diplomats have used the conspiracies floated in March to try and validate their claims of a false flag, but Moscow still can’t seem to get its story straight about whether the conspiracy raised in March involved a fake chemical attack or a real one. The March claims all involved chemical weapons being used by rebels. Russia’s UN ambassador has since argued that there “were no chemical substances found on the ground, no dead bodies found, no poisoned people in the hospitals.”

In the wake of the attack, pro-Russian, pro-Assad and general conspiracy enthusiast social media trolls have joined the fray to make Moscow’s case—with a little help from Russian state media. “[Trump] said let’s pull out of Syria, as a deflection, So that a week later he can declare war,” cried the famously pro-Assad troll Partisangirl. “He knew a chemical false flag was planned.”
Outlets like Sputnik have amplified spy-novel stories about several British commandos captured near the scene of the attack in Douma supposedly operating on behalf of an international Super Friends alliance of the U.S., Israel, Jordan, and the U.K. aiming to thwart the recapture of rebel-held territory.
“Therefore, the US has ordered Jaysh al-Islam, Faylaq al-Rahman and other terrorist groups to allow the evacuation of civilians from Eastern Ghouta to army-held regions in a bid to provide the ground for these foreign agents to also leave Ghouta in disguise and enable the Turkish intelligence service to send them to specified regions in At-Tanf and northern Syria,” according to the intricate claim.

Social-media trolls have also spun their own artisanal disinformation since the Douma incident, taking footage of a 2013 children’s play about chemical weapons put on for kids in East Ghouta and editing the video to claim that civilians in rebel-held areas are teaching children to fake chemical weapons attacks. The play, put on by volunteers shortly after the 2013 sarin attack in East Ghouta, had local children lying on the ground acting out the part of poisoning victims as assembled kids watched and applauded. Twitter trolls grabbed the footage from YouTube, edited it down and circulated it blaring “LET'S PLAY FAKE SYRIAN CHEMICAL ATTACK children's party!”
By and large, though, social media propaganda in the wake of the alleged Douma chemical attack has closely resembled that seen after the Khan Sheikhoun nerve gas attack. “The main things we’ve been seeing are attacks on the White helmets, calling them terrorists and calling it a false flag,” Nimmo said. “What we’ve seen this time around are attacks on the White Helmets, calling them terrorists and calling it a false flag.”
The conspiracy theories about the White Helmets and Douma piggyback on a well-developed disinformation infrastructure aimed at discrediting the civil defense group. A study released by the Syria Campaign, a non-governmental human rights organization, and carried out by the social media analysis firm Graphika looked at tweets by 2.65 million accounts discussing the White Helmets between June 2016 and October 2017 and found a “a solid indication of a coordinated disinformation campaign” against the group.
Discussions focused on a series of common themes accusing White Helmets volunteers of being members of al-Qaeda and staging the deaths of civilians in attacks following Russian bombings or the Syrian military’s use of chemical weapons.
“[Chemical weapons] used by #AlQaeda not by #Assad #Khansheikun was falseflag of alqaeda linked fake aid organisation #whitehelmets,” cried one cluster of tweets, pushed out at the same time by accounts ostensibly located on different continents.
The volume of social media activity, according to the report, allowed conspiracy-theorist critics of Syrian Civil Defense to dominate discussions of the group on social media with “some of the most connected and influential accounts in Twitter conversations about the White Helmets are the same individuals targeting the White Helmets with false accusations and violent threats.”

 

[OpposingDigit]

Relax ..... Nothing at all gonna happen today.

Nobody starts a war on a Friday the 13th.

 

[EagleSmack]

If that is a fact......

There is no rational strategy about Syria....... just a lot of words/ threats being tossed around.

Threats and Twitter rants are not strategy. Nor is playing guessing games.

What would be your strategy?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Relax ..... Nothing at all gonna happen today.

Nobody starts a war on a Friday the 13th.

Did you hear that the UK is satisfied with the evidence of the gas attack by Assad that they are ready to join France and the US on retaliatory attack.

 

[Cliffy]

What would be your strategy?

Get the fukk out of Syria and mind your own god damn business.

 

[EagleSmack]

Get the fukk out of Syria and mind your own god damn business.

I'm ok with that.

Obama should have never sent troops and planes there to begin with.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Get the fukk out of Syria and mind your own god damn business.

Wasn't it announced that the U.S. was preparing to pull it's troops out of Syria? I haven't heard any different on it, they are just saying that they are looking at a way to punish Assad for gassing his own citizens

 

[Cliffy]

Wasn't it announced that the U.S. was preparing to pull it's troops out of Syria? I haven't heard any different on it, they are just saying that they are looking at a way to punish Assad for gassing his own citizens

Assad did not gas his own people. The US does not need to be in Syria because their proxy (rebel) armies are already there doing their "work" for them. All charges against Assad have been manufactured by the CIA to convince the sheeple to interfere in Syria's politics because Assad isn't beholding to the world bank and basically told the US to eat their shorts. The same happened with Libya and now with North Korea. The US has been the world bully for too long and their days are numbered.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Assad did not gas his own people. The US does not need to be in Syria because their proxy (rebel) armies are already there doing their "work" for them. All charges against Assad have been manufactured by the CIA to convince the sheeple to interfere in Syria's politics because Assad isn't beholding to the world bank and basically told the US to eat their shorts. The same happened with Libya and now with North Korea. The US has been the world bully for too long and their days are numbered.

So the French evidence of gas canisters being dropped from Syrian helicopters is really a CIA operation? And France was the first to condemn Syria was really a CIA dubbed news broadcast?

 

[EagleSmack]

Assad did not gas his own people. The US does not need to be in Syria because their proxy (rebel) armies are already there doing their "work" for them. All charges against Assad have been manufactured by the CIA to convince the sheeple to interfere in Syria's politics because Assad isn't beholding to the world bank and basically told the US to eat their shorts. The same happened with Libya and now with North Korea. The US has been the world bully for too long and their days are numbered.

Cliffy forgets that it was Canada leading the way in Libya and left a smoldering mess.

And Canadian ground forces are still in Syria.

 

[Cliffy]

So the French evidence of gas canisters being dropped from Syrian helicopters is really a CIA operation? And France was the first to condemn Syria was really a CIA dubbed news broadcast?

The so-called canisters were manufactured in Germany. You don't think all NATO countries are in on this? Nobody took Eisenhower seriously about the military/industrial complex and now they are bigger than the US and Europe.

 

[Danbones]

This isn't a national issue, it's a criminal one.

Don't mistake the pawns for the players.

Pawns never know the hole truth, Players NEVER get holes in 'em.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[Twin_Moose]

The so-called canisters were manufactured in Germany. You don't think all NATO countries are in on this? Nobody took Eisenhower seriously about the military/industrial complex and now they are bigger than the US and Europe.

So then it is a NATO conspiracy to mandate the CIA to talk Assad into gassing his citizens from his helicopters?

 

[OpposingDigit]

Again; I return to this story from a couple of days ago.

A number of British forces have been captured by the Syrian army during military operations in Eastern Ghouta
April 12, 2018
https://go.newsfusion.com/defense-news/item/5582666

Then today there is this story ....

Syria 'chemical attack' staged to provoke US airstrike, London pushed perpetrators – Russian MoD
Russia says it has solid evidence that foreign intelligence agencies were involved in staging the alleged chemical attack in Syrian city of Douma.
April 13, 2018
https://www.rt.com/news/424047-russian-mod-syria-statement
(YouTube Video)

Sergey Lavrov, the Russian foreign Minister says it is "Irrefutable Evidence" that Britain was behind the attack. Lavrov is no fool .... he chose his words carefully.

This could mean that there is a completely diffferent scenario playing out on the world stage.

If it is proven that British Agents were behind this chemical attack, then the credibility of the U.S. Empire collapses overnight. Totally!

America has a choice .... Destroy the Russian messenger or have the messenger capitulate and return the captive British Agents to their home base. And in return no attacks against Syria will take place and a code of silence on the particulars is agreed to.

If not, America must strike militarily against Russia itself, (Not just Syria) or they will totally collapse on the International Stage.

The Chief of NATO has just comented that Russia is increasingly more apt to use Nuclear Weapons.

 

[Hoid]

Get the fukk out of Syria and mind your own god damn business.

Address that right to Putin.

 

[OpposingDigit]

I remember when Trump was running for president and when the media was encouraging everyone to vote for Trump because he was not a War Monger like the rest of the candidates.

And today, the media is leading the march towards war.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 King James Version (KJV)
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2%3A11-12&version=KJV

I recall Operation Northwoods, and where the U.S. government was prepared to kill its own citizens ...

It is here nor there as to whether or not any president would ever go along with "The Plan" .... It is the very fact that this sort of topic or these type of "Ideals" could be discussed and commented upon at the highest levels of U.S. democracy. One would of thought that if anyone ever-ever referenced these type of actions, that they would of been put before a firing squad immediately.
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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

 

[Twin_Moose]

Again; I return to this story from a couple of days ago.

A number of British forces have been captured by the Syrian army during military operations in Eastern Ghouta
April 12, 2018
https://go.newsfusion.com/defense-news/item/5582666

Then today there is this story ....

Syria 'chemical attack' staged to provoke US airstrike, London pushed perpetrators – Russian MoD
Russia says it has solid evidence that foreign intelligence agencies were involved in staging the alleged chemical attack in Syrian city of Douma.
April 13, 2018
https://www.rt.com/news/424047-russian-mod-syria-statement
(YouTube Video)

Sergey Lavrov, the Russian foreign Minister says it is "Irrefutable Evidence" that Britain was behind the attack. Lavrov is no fool .... he chose his words carefully.

This could mean that there is a completely diffferent scenario playing out on the world stage.

If it is proven that British Agents were behind this chemical attack, then the credibility of the U.S. Empire collapses overnight. Totally!

America has a choice .... Destroy the Russian messenger or have the messenger capitulate and return the captive British Agents to their home base. And in return no attacks against Syria will take place and a code of silence on the particulars is agreed to.

If not, America must strike militarily against Russia itself, (Not just Syria) or they will totally collapse on the International Stage.

The Chief of NATO has just comented that Russia is increasingly more apt to use Nuclear Weapons.

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