SWINE FLU vs. OTHER STRAINS

Francis2004

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I would think (I've been wrong before) that having a "chronic problem" isn't going to make you more susceptible to the Swine, unless your immune system is badly compromised.

JLM, i believe the biggest issue with "chronic problem" is that they can likely lead to death due to complications if you do catch the swine flu.. That is why they are a priority..
 

AnnaG

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AnnaG, you went and got your shots. As I did.

You claim I have chronic problems. Since you got your shots same way as I did, (getting up early enough) you must have chronic problems, too.

My chronic problem is arthritis. Not anything mental, such as yours.
Well, you either do have a chronic problem or not. You infer not having one and then say you have arthritis.
BTW, there's not a person on the planet that doesn't have some psychological quirk or other. Mine is that I like people in spite of how cranky or wrong they can be. :)
Besides, I didn't claim you had a chronic problem, I said you probably had one. There's a big difference to those that understand what others post.
So, who peed in your porridge this morning?
 

Cliffy

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Gawd, Jack we've missed you. Were you gone because you had a chronic case of niceness and didn't want to infect us with it? Good to see you back Jack. Your sage advice is always a great way to start the day.
What do you say gang? how about a great big hand shake to welcome our resident curmudgeon back!
 

Francis2004

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I imagine chronic breathing problems would be in there. Possibly chronic pump problems, too. Neither necessarily precipitates a tax on the immune system. There are probably others.

My doctor made us ( my son and I ) a priority on Monday due to Asthma considered a "chronic health issue" and a priority. My son having deadly nut allergies ( 20 seconds window of life ) and I having further health issues made it more so even tough I had reservations about the shot.

Both of us were taken back by the flu shot and it really put of off for 3 days minimum. I have to admit that I was surprised by the effect it had on me and my son and on that first day. I really got frightened from the effects it had on us and was regretting taking it at that time. My son could barely stand from its effect on him on the first day an it I had to carry him as he could barely walk and with me in no better shape we did not fare well.

Consider that in the last 15 years I have always had my flu shot and in 5 years my son always had his..

It was pretty scary..
 

YukonJack

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"Gawd, Jack we've missed you. Were you gone because you had a chronic case of niceness and didn't want to infect us with it? Good to see you back Jack. Your sage advice is always a great way to start the day.
What do you say gang? how about a great big hand shake to welcome our resident curmudgeon back!"

Cliffy, thanks for the warm and kind words.

However, I could not hope to hold a candle to SirJosephPorter as the resident badass. And, to be honest, when it comes to nastiness, you are right up there, with him, yourself.

ME? I can only hope that I come in a poor forty-second behind yourself, and many others who know who who they are.
 

Outta here

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I would think (I've been wrong before) that having a "chronic problem" isn't going to make you more susceptible to the Swine, unless your immune system is badly compromised.

Listening to people in general conversation, there sure does seem to be a misunderstanding about what is meant by 'high priority". It's not who's most likely to catch it, because we're all facing the same odds with that, unless we're living in a bubble. High priority is referring to those who are more likely to have difficulty fighting off or recovering from this flu.
 

lindyloo646

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I think you may be hard pressed to find anyone over 65 (at least in Canada) who does not have some kind of arthritis. Seems there is something amiss with the priority list, and the definitions of "high risk"
 

JLM

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Gawd, Jack we've missed you. Were you gone because you had a chronic case of niceness and didn't want to infect us with it? Good to see you back Jack. Your sage advice is always a great way to start the day.
What do you say gang? how about a great big hand shake to welcome our resident curmudgeon back!

Absolutely, when I get in a curmudgeonly mood and want to piss someone off, I can always rely on a quick response from Y.J.
 

AnnaG

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My doctor made us ( my son and I ) a priority on Monday due to Asthma considered a "chronic health issue" and a priority. My son having deadly nut allergies ( 20 seconds window of life ) and I having further health issues made it more so even tough I had reservations about the shot.

Both of us were taken back by the flu shot and it really put of off for 3 days minimum. I have to admit that I was surprised by the effect it had on me and my son and on that first day. I really got frightened from the effects it had on us and was regretting taking it at that time. My son could barely stand from its effect on him on the first day an it I had to carry him as he could barely walk and with me in no better shape we did not fare well.

Consider that in the last 15 years I have always had my flu shot and in 5 years my son always had his..

It was pretty scary..
I had a tummyache so far, but I think that was likely due to too much coffee. As near as I can tell neither of us has displayed any aftereffects they told us about. Lucky, I guess. I hope everything smoothes out for you soon.
 

AnnaG

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Listening to people in general conversation, there sure does seem to be a misunderstanding about what is meant by 'high priority". It's not who's most likely to catch it, because we're all facing the same odds with that, unless we're living in a bubble. High priority is referring to those who are more likely to have difficulty fighting off or recovering from this flu.
Exactly.
 

VanIsle

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I think you may be hard pressed to find anyone over 65 (at least in Canada) who does not have some kind of arthritis. Seems there is something amiss with the priority list, and the definitions of "high risk"
I was glad to see someone say that. I cannot for the life of me understand how arthritis puts anyone in a high risk category for the H1N1 shot. High risk here has been listed as asthma, diabetes and the like. Some teens have arthritis and almost anyone over 50 has at least some. I guess I better write to my doctor nephew in Manitoba and ask him what the high risk factors were for H1N1 shots there. I would just like to know if Jack slithered through the cracks to get his shot ahead of those who really need it.
For anyone living in my area, I heard them say on the radio this morning that people should visit the VIHA site to learn more about future shots. Their site is not the easiest to follow so you do have to watch for the "fine print" on the page. I should have a look at it so I'll have an idea what to expect.
 

Francis2004

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I had a tummyache so far, but I think that was likely due to too much coffee. As near as I can tell neither of us has displayed any aftereffects they told us about. Lucky, I guess. I hope everything smoothes out for you soon.

It was mostly gone.. Worse days were Tuesday and Wednesday.. By Thursday we were 85% back to normal.. And then Friday no more side effects..
 

AnnaG

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I'm happy to hear that, Francis. :) No apparent aftereffects yet, so I guess we're in the clear. But, now it makes me wonder how much the info about the aftereffects causes a hypochondriac sort of reaction to the info. :D
 

VanIsle

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I'm happy to hear that, Francis. :) No apparent aftereffects yet, so I guess we're in the clear. But, now it makes me wonder how much the info about the aftereffects causes a hypochondriac sort of reaction to the info. :D
My daughter-in-law got the shot last week. She said that within a few hours she was feeling a little bit fluey and achy and also a little weak. She did get both shots all at once though so maybe it was a lot for her body to absorb all at once. Anyway, she said by the next day it was completely gone and she has felt just fine every since.
All of our clinic times have changed but at least they are still listed starting on the 17th. I kind of gather that by that time, it's everyone's turn.
 

JLM

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My daughter-in-law got the shot last week. She said that within a few hours she was feeling a little bit fluey and achy and also a little weak. She did get both shots all at once though so maybe it was a lot for her body to absorb all at once. Anyway, she said by the next day it was completely gone and she has felt just fine every since.
All of our clinic times have changed but at least they are still listed starting on the 17th. I kind of gather that by that time, it's everyone's turn.

It might not be a bad idea if those of us born prior to '57 hold off on getting it for a few more days, so the young people who really are at risk get their's first. The first few days after the general population gets their turn will be like a zoo anyway.
 

JLM

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I just got over the strangest "cold" I ever had, sore throat, runny nose and general feeling of malaise, in two days which has never happened before. Was it a cold or something else, being born prior to 1957? I wonder.