Stephen Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
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Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
:? It worked in Bush's campaign didn't it? I know when it comes to Bush we've heard enough chimp jokes...But in Harpers case, it's Monkey see Monkey do.
Ocean Breeze said:
:? It worked in Bush's campaign didn't it? I know when it comes to Bush we've heard enough chimp jokes...But in Harpers case, it's Monkey see Monkey do.
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It did work with "W's" campaign but us up here in Canada don't really fall for that type of politicking not to mention for the most part we are pretty well more open minded as well. We also understand their are more pressing issues to be dealt with.
SSM is legal, it should be left at that and it is time to move on. 5 countries (Canada, South Africa, Holland,Spain, Belgium)have it legal now and I am sure more are to follow.
It did work with "W's" campaign but us up here in Canada don't really fall for that type of politicking not to mention for the most part we are pretty well more open minded as well. We also understand their are more pressing issues to be dealt with.
SSM is legal, it should be left at that and it is time to move on. 5 countries (Canada, South Africa, Holland,Spain, Belgium)have it legal now and I am sure more are to follow.
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This is an argument about homosexuality. When I am successful, it will lead to a conclusion condemning same-sex marriage.
The argument continues.
Human reproduction requires the combination of genetic material from two different sexes.
Homosexuals can't reproduce. Homosexual hypocrites can.
Homosexuals are genetic dead-enders.
Agree to this basic point and the argument can move forward. Alternatively, provide a counter-argument or accept total defeat.
Sanity only requires that you acknowledge the facts, not like them.
This is an argument about homosexuality. When I am successful, it will lead to a conclusion condemning same-sex marriage.
The argument continues.
Human reproduction requires the combination of genetic material from two different sexes.
Homosexuals can't reproduce. Homosexual hypocrites can.
Homosexuals are genetic dead-enders.
Agree to this basic point and the argument can move forward. Alternatively, provide a counter-argument or accept total defeat.
Sanity only requires that you acknowledge the facts, not like them.
Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
I'm not following you on the hyprocite part. Explain.
Hogwild said:
I'm not following you on the hyprocite part. Explain.
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I'm not following him on any of it. He's trying to use science to justify his hateful stance, but he doesn't understand the science he's trying use. If he did, he would understand that homosexuality has a genetic component and that recurs throughout the generations. It is part of the human genome.
I'm not following him on any of it. He's trying to use science to justify his hateful stance, but he doesn't understand the science he's trying use. If he did, he would understand that homosexuality has a genetic component and that recurs throughout the generations. It is part of the human genome.
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Yeah, I know. I thought I'd start with an easy one though, not so sciency.
Reverend Blair said:
Yeah, I know. I thought I'd start with an easy one though, not so sciency.
Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
He still needs to address the issue of allele frequencies in social species being dependent on selection pressures that favour the overall reproductive success of the group, rather than of the particular individuals that the group comprises.
It was Hoggy who brought up the whole "scientific" justification for his homophobia so if he wants to play in the scientific kitchen, let's see if he can stand the heat, or if it's only from the hot air he's blowing.
Also, he's got it wrong: the onus is not on homosexuals to justify their existence, since it is a trait, like left-handedness, that is present in primate populations to a minority, but significant and proportionally stable degree.
The onus is on bigots to justify their pathology and to show that it is not an evolutionary "dead end".
Otherwise, he should just admit that he finds homsexuality "icky"-- perhaps because he harbours an attraction to it and is ashamed-- and that he has no legitimate basis on whch to advocate depriving them of full social acceptance.
He still needs to address the issue of allele frequencies in social species being dependent on selection pressures that favour the overall reproductive success of the group, rather than of the particular individuals that the group comprises.
It was Hoggy who brought up the whole "scientific" justification for his homophobia so if he wants to play in the scientific kitchen, let's see if he can stand the heat, or if it's only from the hot air he's blowing.
Also, he's got it wrong: the onus is not on homosexuals to justify their existence, since it is a trait, like left-handedness, that is present in primate populations to a minority, but significant and proportionally stable degree.
The onus is on bigots to justify their pathology and to show that it is not an evolutionary "dead end".
Otherwise, he should just admit that he finds homsexuality "icky"-- perhaps because he harbours an attraction to it and is ashamed-- and that he has no legitimate basis on whch to advocate depriving them of full social acceptance.
Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
Oi! I am left handed pastaman, are you calling me a monkey :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yur mean
, you knows he cannot prove it, read his posts 8O. In fact I seriously doubt hog would be able to see the fractal geometry in leaf. Now thats cooooooooooooooool. Just ask dexter sinister 8)
Oi! I am left handed pastaman, are you calling me a monkey :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yur mean
, you knows he cannot prove it, read his posts 8O. In fact I seriously doubt hog would be able to see the fractal geometry in leaf. Now thats cooooooooooooooool. Just ask dexter sinister 8)Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
...not unless you have a tail. I reckon you're an ape like the rest of us...
BTW my youngest is a lefty.
I've heard you sinister types are supposed to be good at math. My little guy loves math and is working through his brother's Grade 1 workbooks on his own, at age 5.
...not unless you have a tail. I reckon you're an ape like the rest of us...
BTW my youngest is a lefty.
I've heard you sinister types are supposed to be good at math. My little guy loves math and is working through his brother's Grade 1 workbooks on his own, at age 5.
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I didn't know that. Funny, but my father and one brother, both lefties, are both good at math while the rest of the family sucks at it.
I didn't know that. Funny, but my father and one brother, both lefties, are both good at math while the rest of the family sucks at it.
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Yeah, it has to do with the relationship between handedness and lateralization of brain function. It's not simple, and I don't know a whole lot about it, but there is a fair bit of research being done on it.
Yeah, it has to do with the relationship between handedness and lateralization of brain function. It's not simple, and I don't know a whole lot about it, but there is a fair bit of research being done on it.
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does this make ANY rational sense to anyone here?? ( um.....except maybe the author? )
seems someone is throwing down a gauntlet. Sorry, will not work....... The prejudice is appalling...... and serves only to intice, antagonize and enrage. Wanna pick a bigoted fight.?......please go somewhere else. thanks
Archie Bunker had more sense than this and we all know what a prejudiced bigot he was.
Hogwild said:
does this make ANY rational sense to anyone here?? ( um.....except maybe the author? )
seems someone is throwing down a gauntlet. Sorry, will not work....... The prejudice is appalling...... and serves only to intice, antagonize and enrage. Wanna pick a bigoted fight.?......please go somewhere else. thanks
Archie Bunker had more sense than this and we all know what a prejudiced bigot he was.
Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
news item: Gay marriages become law in the UK. (good for them)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4493094.stm
the world is changing......and "minority" rights are being recognized. ( "minority" in quotes as it seems a tad inflamatory)
ergo "HUMAN " rights.
news item: Gay marriages become law in the UK. (good for them)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4493094.stm
the world is changing......and "minority" rights are being recognized. ( "minority" in quotes as it seems a tad inflamatory)
ergo "HUMAN " rights.
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OB, Hoggy's posts don't make any sense in terms of the science he invokes, but doesn't understand.
I hear tell 'round these parts, that you're a psychological-type expert.
If'n that's the case, then I reckon you should explain Hoggy to us. :wink:
OB, Hoggy's posts don't make any sense in terms of the science he invokes, but doesn't understand.
I hear tell 'round these parts, that you're a psychological-type expert.
If'n that's the case, then I reckon you should explain Hoggy to us. :wink:
Re: Harper vows free vote on gay marriage
would take HOURS :wink:
Would be safe to go with "Archie Bunker " syndrome....as that personifies /explains it best. :wink:
(for those unfamiliar with Archie......just look it up... hint: TV series ) :wink:
(not an "expert". Not sure there is such a thing. :wink:
:lol: :lol:pastafarian said:
would take HOURS
:wink: Would be safe to go with "Archie Bunker " syndrome....as that personifies /explains it best. :wink:
(for those unfamiliar with Archie......just look it up... hint: TV series ) :wink:
(not an "expert". Not sure there is such a thing. :wink:
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