Some Tim Hortons Cancell Paid Breaks in Ont over wage hike
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It is likely their 15 minute breaks which they are eliminating. so on a 3 or 4 hour shift you don't get a 15 minute break which before would have been paid...now you work through your shift...if however you work for 5 or more hours they must give you a half hour unpaid break
Replacing employees is a bigger expense than providing a few extra peanuts. If they can do and would rather do that then the crying over increased minimum wage is a crock.
factories give their employees breaks and many many other places of employment do as wellTo my way of thinking it would seem normal NOT to be paid while NOT working! -
it depends upon the mentality of management, their understanding of leadership and motivation
it meets the labour laws not to pay
smart employers perk their employees in various ways to build loyalty and group cohesion
it depends upon what one wishes from their employees and the plans in place to reach that goal
yes it costs several thousand dollars to train a minimum wage employee
new can not produce like trained and motivated
experience matters
I have worked since I was 15. Up until the time I reached management, I was given 15 minute breaks in a four hour shift at all the places of my employment over the years. Now I am back in the ranks of non management many of the schools in our Board give you a break. Others do not.
when in management i preferred they take breaks when possible...they knew they could stop for some food and a quick drink. I found it motivating for them to know they were getting a break. Not to mention I didn't want someone passing out on the floor because their blood sugar dropped.
they take the time anyway...I would rather control it but then it depends upon how you lead your teams and what you find motivates people
i was always big on the carrot, not the stick
Yer not up on economics are you? I detect a little trickle down lunnie in you. Every major employer does this or it does not become a major employer. Yes inflated prices has always saved economies. You're not in line to be Canadas next Minister of Fiance are you? Calling the economic disaster change is technically correct howerver calling it an unprecedented economic disaster is more fact based. Only war can hahahahafix this economy.
CPP, EI Workers comp are mandated. There is also the cost of running the office. No idea what compo is in fat food places but for my work it can run 13%
Yep, I guess paid coffee breaks are the norm these days. I worked on one job years ago where we got paid right through 10 hours we were allowed to eat lunch and drink coffee but we couldn't stop working. The pay at the time was $1 an hour. -
My first job was fifty cents an hour,you musta been in the office. I had for lunch a home cooked meal, of spectacular farm cooking, in my employers kitchen. This was where I learned to shovel sh it, tons of it expertly placed every hours. The stables of hades, I joking, I loved picking rocks off fields with Mary the horse what drug the rock cart. I might apply for a job tomorrow. not
The price of the product must reflect the real cost of producing the service.
I get that, but its more about managing resources than simply not paying the
workers. For years they have been inventing excuses not to pay and perhaps
they should have been looking for ways to increase their business.
I won't stop buying coffee or eating at facilities that is like saying when cigarettes
reach fifty cents a pack I 'll quit smoking, When I started they were 36 cents a pack
when I quit in 97 they were nearly five dollars. I didn't quit over cost I quit over health.
Food outlets and service oriented businesses will have to actually figure out what
their customers want and build there service around the value they provide. When
that happens it will be good for industry.
I know the cost per hour when I hire people there is more than one and the cost is
considerable. If I hire people who are experienced and paid well I make it back
later with delivering quality product to the packinghouse
I get that, but its more about managing resources than simply not paying the
workers. For years they have been inventing excuses not to pay and perhaps
they should have been looking for ways to increase their business.
I won't stop buying coffee or eating at facilities that is like saying when cigarettes
reach fifty cents a pack I 'll quit smoking, When I started they were 36 cents a pack
when I quit in 97 they were nearly five dollars. I didn't quit over cost I quit over health.
Food outlets and service oriented businesses will have to actually figure out what
their customers want and build there service around the value they provide. When
that happens it will be good for industry.
I know the cost per hour when I hire people there is more than one and the cost is
considerable. If I hire people who are experienced and paid well I make it back
later with delivering quality product to the packinghouse
You are really stretching and missing the original point.
Anyways, WSIB premiums for restaurants in Ontario are 1.72% of payroll. 13% is for logging companies. Even a mining operation only pays 8%.
In some provinces, the employer is required to kick-in for healthcare premiums, then there is the secondary things like insurance that the employer gets on behalf of the employee or (essentially) standard bennies like RRSP matching schemes. Despite the aforementioned being tax deductions, you only really get back a portion of the funds
It doesn't take long for these numbers to add up to something more substantial than buddies idea of 5-6%
Those numbers are entirely dependent on the track record of the company
Nobody said it was, but the 20%-30% of salary number quoted is simply not realistic for these minimum wage jobs that generally provide no "benefits"(as in anything above what is legally required).
If you start bringing in stuff like the cost of running an office, that is stretching far beyond what we are talking about.