`Some Thing` After Death.......
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That indeed is the reason why most religions describe a glorious afterlife, with an eternity of bliss and happiness.
I have never been able to accept the finality of death either, the act of dying yes but not the discontinuation. Why in all our existance and experiance should the discontinuity of death still be so alien to us? Why do we rebel so about the promised end of the experience? It's very hard to accept a point in the future that will mark the end our experiance and very easy to project that experiance beyond the grave. Why should death be the end? Is it? We hear so little from the dead these days.
There is certainly a spiritual life, after death which marks the end of the material life; man will live forever with his ethereal or spiritual soul.
The death is only a transport to the next afterlife which is the true and everlasting life where man will have more knowledge,
and will live happily according to his belief in God as One and in all his apostles;
or will live in miserable conditions if he is an atheist or associater that associates others with God.
http://man-after-death.t35.com
and will live happily according to his belief in God as One and in all his apostles;
or will live in miserable conditions if he is an atheist or associater that associates others with God.
http://man-after-death.t35.com
This is in the Quran
23: 99-100
23: 99-100
حَتَّى إِذَا جَاء أَحَدَهُمُ الْمَوْتُ قَالَ رَبِّ ارْجِعُونِ . لَعَلِّي أَعْمَلُ صَالِحًا فِيمَا تَرَكْتُ كَلَّا إِنَّهَا كَلِمَةٌ هُوَ قَائِلُهَا وَمِن وَرَائِهِم بَرْزَخٌ إِلَى يَوْمِ يُبْعَثُونَ
The explanation:
(Till when death comes to one of them, he says: "O [angels of] my Lord, return me [to the Worldly life.]"
"That I may do good in [the wealth] that I left behind." No, this is merely a word that he speaks;
but behind them there is a barrier until the day they will be sent forth [to the afterlife.] )
(Till when death comes to one of them, he says: "O [angels of] my Lord, return me [to the Worldly life.]"
"That I may do good in [the wealth] that I left behind." No, this is merely a word that he speaks;
but behind them there is a barrier until the day they will be sent forth [to the afterlife.] )
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DB....You sure said a mouthful there. Death doesn't scare me, but leaving things undone does
trouble me. The "who will do this & who will take of..." factor of the equation. As far as living
forever in this body...mines way more than half way to being worn out and I might have another
40yrs in it...that's going to suck. I'm not sure I'd want to spend a 1000yrs in this body.
I know I woke in a calm - relaxed and well-rested - like I've never felt before. The gal at my feet, gowned up and greasing up paddles probably would have messed that up in a hurry. You're right. The fear of death isn't so big. It isn't so much of an unknown any more. The fear of hurt on the way in looms MUCH larger. That's enough to hold me back from doing anything really stupid.
The undone, the unexperianced, the unloved, the unfulfilled responsibility all of that plays on my mind as you have stated. I'm half past prime as well and I'd like to get out of my decrepid container. Youth is wasted on the young. I had no idea what that meant. It's become my reality though. When we begin to miss life,s pleasures in anticipation of death it does add some primal comtemplations to our remaining days. If we were so sure of the nothingness of death perhaps there would be nothing to fear. But I have come to realize as you have that I fear nothing more than anything.
Hey Man, I work with what I've got, but I'm finding that it takes a whole lot longer to
get to a functioning state in the morning than it did even five years ago, and I'm thinking
that's not going to improve in forty more years...let along a thousand. Pain sucks but
ya' do what you gotta do. Living still needs to be done, dogs still need to be walked,
sidewalks still need to be shoveled...and once I've stretched out the body and worked
out the kinks and such, I really enjoy doing the physical things, but it takes longer and
longer as time goes by...that's where I'm coming from.
Ron,
I think the assumption is that if we can get our cells to stop aging, they will retain the vigor of our youth.
Otherwise, what would be the point?
After a thousand years we'd all be looking like <insert Zombie movie of your choice here>.
:lol:
I think the assumption is that if we can get our cells to stop aging, they will retain the vigor of our youth.
Otherwise, what would be the point?
After a thousand years we'd all be looking like <insert Zombie movie of your choice here>.
:lol:
Zan,
You have always made the impression on me that you are happy and content in your shoes.
Perhaps I am wrong.
After you are gone would there be some `one` thing that if given the opportunity, that you would change.
I didn't want this to become personal but if asked a question I will answer it to the best of my ability.
regards,
scratch
You have always made the impression on me that you are happy and content in your shoes.
Perhaps I am wrong.
After you are gone would there be some `one` thing that if given the opportunity, that you would change.
I didn't want this to become personal but if asked a question I will answer it to the best of my ability.
regards,
scratch
Hello EA, I tend to agree with the ethereal soul concept because it satisfys the longing for continuence in the next state. I also tend to believe that fear of the emptiness of death and the inate need in most of us to hope for this continuence has been the building blocks of religion and not the beautiful beguileing words of man. The love and fear of god and the hope of the happy hunting grounds predates the written word by a bit, so in that respect, if you'll forgive me, you lot, god technicians, are rather late to the game of salvation. Never mind you're doing splendid work catching up nontheless.
The origin of the beautiful compilations in your sacred book are and have been the stuff of universal conversation and contemplation, by firelight and moonbeam, for quite a while now. It is understandable that human traditions with respect to the way of death and life should have such widely divergent ideas. We should bear in mind that our own cultural and traditional beliefs may in fact be incorrect especially with respect to god. I find it interesting that many traditions teach that overmuch pride and scornful certitude and intolerance are all considered to have no virtue. Why would god command scorn and contempt for the unfortunate unbeliever instead of brotherly love and patcient kind tolerance seemingly in contrevention of his own example and word?
Every thing in the universe knew the powers of the gods long before mankind time, you decieve us with the words of men. Pleasently though.:lol:
PS: I hear through the grape vine that Sinister entertains waneing resolve to remain stubbornly unsaved in the light of your instruction.
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ah... ok.
Well yes - for the most part, I think the shoes I walk in are well traveled - I'd not change a whole lot. There is a thing or two I would like to take another kick at though. Who doesn't have a few things like that on the soles of their souls?
*groan!*I'd like to meet the one who says there's not a thing they'd do differently if they knew then what they know now - I suspect I'd be looking at the face of this God I've been hearing about so much lately. :smile:
yup that can to be
but if we the proves it not the wrong we believe it ?
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Sahih International: O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
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Sahih International: And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed - all of them entirely. Then, [O Muْammad], would you compel the people in order that they become believers?
there much from humans liers in the history in all peoples but there the righteous
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