No roll up the rim for Grumpy this year .
No true Vancouverite carries an umbrella .
Some people are just plain mean!
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Relative to what? He's better off than the poor guy lying in front of Timmy's suffering from insomnia.
Nah, this problem goes back to the Social Credit days- can't remember if it was Bill Bennett or Bill Vanderzalm who shut down Riverview, but it was badly managed. The whole kit and caboodle was just dumped out on the street in one fell swoop!
More like Glenn Clark. Some do gooder decided it was against their right to be kept in a safe place where they would get their meds as required.
I think if they want to hang on to their clientele they might tar and feather him too.
Is there a big difference? I highly doubt it. They are all opportunists with both feet in the trough and who tell lies.
I thought for sure it was the Socreds. Glenny wouldn't do anything to save money.
Closing up the mental hospitals and psychiatric wards and putting these people on the streets.
Closed in 2012
No, you'd be a cop that had one to many donuts..
You getting waldo to do your research now? Dig deeper and you will find that the garden variety nutbars were let loose in the 90s.
"By 1956 the hospital had reached 4,306 patients up from 450 in 1913. In 1959 the charge of mental health services was transferred from the Provincial Secretary to the newly formed Department of Health Services. The transfer was followed by a transition from custodial care to the more active psychiatric care of patients.[6] In 1967 Dr. Davidson resigned as Deputy Minister and was replaced by Dr F.G. Tucker, a resident physician of Essondale (Riverview) from 1953 who, in 1959, became the Clinical Director of the Crease Clinic.[5]
A steady decline in beds and facilities started in the 1960s and continued up to 2004 at which point there were only 800 beds. It is said that the reason for the decreasing number was initially due to the introduction of anti-psychotic medications and the development of psychiatric units in acute care hospitals as well as a move toward outpatient care.[6] As early as 1967 a decision had been made to downsize Riverview Hospital. The decision was first brought up officially on paper three years after the publication of the Mental Health Act of 1964 that intended to have mental health care be as readily available to the population as that of physical health. The two acts worked in conjunction so that by 1970 there were 17 Mental Health Centres in British Columbia, 12 of which had opened within the previous 4 years.[2]
Decreases continued. In 1969 the Provincial Government appointed a committee to review the role of the Mental Health Branch of social services in British Columbia. The committee decided to further downsize Riverview in a stated plan to implement other community care centres. As further closures were being planned, legislation was also passed in 1969 that deemed Riverview an “open hospital” allowing private practitioners to send their patients to Riverview. A shift away from directors trained in psychiatry to administrative ones was marked. As services and beds at Riverview continuously decreased, while opening access of it through private practice, another official plan to entirely close Riverview Hospital was written in 1987: A Draft Plan to Replace Riverview Hospital.[7]
Regional clinics began drawing patients from Riverview, and both advances in treatment and eventual cutbacks in funding resulted in fewer people receiving mental health care province-wide. In 1983, West Lawn closed and farming operations at Colony Farm were discontinued. In 1984, the provincial government sold 57 hectares (141 acres) of Riverview lands to Molnar Developments. Shortly afterward, this land was subdivided and became Riverview Heights, with about 250 single family homes. In 1985 an acute geriatric unit was opened at Riverview Hospital.[8]
In 1988 management of the hospital was officially transferred from the directors to a board of provincially appointed trustees.[6] The shift was an anticipated one, as the Report of the Mental Health Planning Survey of 1979 states: “What began as the sensible idea of using non-medical, trained administers for administrative tasks, has subtly become the use of untrained non-medical administrators, and a simultaneous denial of the psychiatrist's role in clinical leadership."[9] The shift had been happening from the early 1960s and has been argued to be one of the reasons for the 1969 committee's decision to downsize Riverview and decrease funding. The board, as far less experienced in psychiatry than the original managers who held doctorates and who were trained psychiatrists, were again replaced in 1992 by another board without trustees that was said to give a broader representation of concerns including those of consumers [patients], businesses, and union and community agencies.[6][10]
By 1990 the decision had officially been made to reduce Riverview to a 358 bed facility with the supposed intention of opening regional care facilities throughout the province as stated in the Mental Health Initiative."
So why the hell does he think he can sleep right up close to a business door? If it was your friggin business i doubt you would be slathering money around for peeps who have already had too many chances.
Why do you people think that they are losing businesses in downtown Victoria and many other cities? Customers are sick of being harassed for handouts by druggies, and losers everywhere they go, that is why.
Why do you people think that they are losing businesses in downtown Victoria and many other cities? Customers are sick of being harassed for handouts by druggies, and losers everywhere they go, that is why.
I think if they want to hang on to their clientele they might tar and feather him too.
Is there a big difference? I highly doubt it. They are all opportunists with both feet in the trough and who tell lies.
I thought for sure it was the Socreds. Glenny wouldn't do anything to save money.
It's started under WAC. 84, 92, and 02 were the years closures hit hardest.
I'm sure the Socreds did most of the damage. They weren't a particularly caring bunch.
I hear you but assaulting the poor fellow doesn't help anything- you have to start at the source, the bastards who are importing and pushing drugs and make it so the business isn't so attractive or lucrative. If we have to be mean to anyone, these are the bastards to treat badly, lock them up in a bunker for the duration!
Looking at dates and Premiers it was NDP who did it right in. Socreds made cuts but Harcourt and Clark obliterated Riverview and the other one by Mary Hill.
I did. 72-80, 85- 98.
For us the Prairies was a better place to raise a child and made even better sense financially.
The Lower Mainland wasn't ready for the foreign influx, heavy economy change, massive social spending cuts, forestry and pulp industry death, construction boom, crazy inflation, tourism growth, grow houses, crack, china white and meth all at once.
As far as I know there are no laws being broken there. Sometimes you just can't go back!
Nah, I'm pretty sure most of the damage was done before Harcourt arrived on the scene. Socialists screwed up a lot of sh*t but I don't think that was part of it. I think Billy Wooden shoes did most of the damage.
He was a government employee pretty much his entire life. I think that says about all that needs to be said.
there are other ways to handle the situation which would have left the old guy and his dog dry and achieved the same ends no?
such acts lower us