Somali woman stoned to death for adultery

[Just the Facts]

According to Amnesty International it turns out she was only 13, and the "adultery" was actually rape.

 

[tracy]

I don't know why this has to bear any comparisons. Whether it happens in other places or not, it's still barbaric and it's not only ok but important to say so. It isn't ok to stone a child to death for being raped.

 

[darkbeaver]

According to Amnesty International it turns out she was only 13, and the "adultery" was actually rape.

Amnesty International? Who owns them?

 

[Walter]

What's the difference between killing with starvation phospherous bombs or DU and stones. We see these stories about the savages we burn and hack and poison by the million and it's supposed to make our crimes the lesser because the ragheads are just animals afterall.

If Lord Kitchener was alive I'm sure he'd put you out of your misery.

 

[Risus]

According to Amnesty International it turns out she was only 13, and the "adultery" was actually rape.

Do you have a link?

 

[Just the Facts]

Do you have a link?

Yup:

Google

 

[Risus]

Yup:

Google

It was the girl's father that said she was raped, not Amnesty International. What would you expect the father to say???

 

[earth_as_one]

Sounds like a nightmare

Somalian rape victim, 13, stoned to death

An Islamist rebel administration in Somalia has had a 13-year-old girl stoned to death for adultery after the child's father reported that she was raped by three men.
Amnesty International said al-Shabab militia, which controls the southern city of Kismayo, arranged for 50 men to stone Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow in front of about 1,000 spectators. A lorry load of stones was brought to the stadium for the killing.
Amnesty said Duhulow struggled with her captors and had to be forcibly carried into the stadium.
"At one point during the stoning, Amnesty International has been told by numerous eyewitnesses that nurses were instructed to check whether Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow was still alive when buried in the ground. They removed her from the ground, declared that she was, and she was replaced in the hole where she had been buried for the stoning to continue," the human rights group said. It continued: "Inside the stadium, militia members opened fire when some of the witnesses to the killing attempted to save her life, and shot dead a boy who was a bystander."
Amnesty said Duhulow was originally reported by witnesses as being 23 years old, based on her appearance, but established from her father that she was a child. He told Amnesty that when they tried to report her rape to the militia, the child was accused of adultery and detained. None of the men accused was arrested.
"This was not justice, nor was it an execution," said Amnesty's Somalia campaigner, David Copeman. "This killing is yet another human rights abuse committed by the combatants to the conflict in Somalia, and again demonstrates the importance of international action to investigate and document such abuses, through an international commission of inquiry."

Somalian rape victim, 13, stoned to death | World news | The Guardian

 

[talloola]

Many islamic countries seems to be, 'men obeying their god,(who's rules are made up by man anyway), and controlling women' under the
umbrella of religion. What a convenient way to make women do what ever they want, when
they want, how they want. When will these women every be free.
I am a 70 year old women,
free, young at heart, and able, at my age to do whatever I want, within reason), and, I still
have to know, in this day and age, that a woman somewhere in the world is being 'stoned to death' as I walk free
and happy.
That saddens me very much.

 

[scratch]

Many islamic countries seems to be, 'men obeying their god,(who's rules are made up by man anyway), and controlling women' under the
umbrella of religion. What a convenient way to make women do what ever they want, when
they want, how they want. When will these women every be free.
I am a 70 year old women,
free, young at heart, and able, at my age to do whatever I want, within reason), and, I still
have to know, in this day and age, that a woman somewhere in the world is being 'stoned to death' as I walk free
and happy.
That saddens me very much.

Lady of the Island,
When I first read this (and posted) I thought how barbaric. This kind of control forced onto women is a travesty. I know karrie is very much into this and I agree with you and her. Makes me ashamed to be a male of the species. When I read this stuff I get a pain in the centre of my chest and become angry.
I was always told to never discuss religion nor politics but this is too much for me to not speak out.
Sincere Regards,
scratch

 

[talloola]

Lady of the Island,
When I first read this (and posted) I thought how barbaric. This kind of control forced onto women is a travesty. I know karrie is very much into this and I agree with you and her. Makes me ashamed to be a male of the species. When I read this stuff I get a pain in the centre of my chest and become angry.
I was always told to never discuss religion nor politics but this is too much for me to not speak out.
Sincere Regards,
scratch

Yes, it is very painful, and thank you for feeling that pain, it is important for 'all' to feel it.

 

[scratch]

Yes, it is very painful, and thank you for feeling that pain, it is important for 'all' to feel it.

And to make sure that it is always in sight, not buried as some would have it.

 

[Praxius]

Another bull**** article from Reuters. Just what's needed to rile up the first world idiots. Why not post a story about some Canadian women beaten to pulp by her drunk husband or father who's been sexually abuseing her since she was a little girl. How about doing the dirty laundry in your own back yard instead of looking for **** in somebody elses? There's nothing lower than an unreferrenced story about dirty Islamic savages printed by a cheap commercial propaganda organ. Happens everytime the Islamists or the poor anywhere begin to win.

Geez Dark, got some issues you want to talk about?

 

[Avro]

Geez Dark, got some issues you want to talk about?

You just figuring this out now?

It's what happens when you've been in Moms basement to long, you become anti-social and weird.

Poor beave, no real people to talk to, I kind of feel sorry for the little buck tooth dam builder.

 

[Praxius]

Domestic stories you mention are quite easy to find on CBC or any other news sites, DB.

Your anger toward a news bot is incredible...

Well besides me not being a "News Bot" (At least I'm doing something in these forums other then bitching about other people doing something in these forums :roll I didn't even say anything pro or neg in regards to this story yet, so who's getting angry over what?

Geez, you guys need to take a pill and chill the fooq out.

In your opinion though; North American news agencies should quit printing any sort of news that has to do with Islam, the middle east etc?

Yeah isolation is the answer.... ignorance is bliss.... everything is either so great that there's no point in reporting about how great everything is in life, or it's so gloom and doom that it's not worth reporting about so things remain just super.......

Oh and those nasty nuclear bombs all the grown ups are talking about? No they're nothing to worry about.... but just on a different topic, if you hear siren at any paticular time, that's just something like a fire drill, nothing to worry about..... but instead of venturing out of the building, we're all just gonna duck under our desks and make sure we cover our eyes.... think of it as a bit hide and go seek for a few second.

Yup.... the world is just a great and super happy place to live in at all times.... heaven forbid that something bad may have actually happened in the world, that's just doo doo talk that nobody wants to hear about.... that makes it difficult to turn frowns upside down :-(

In case you didn't notice, I was being a slight bit sarcastic.

It could have happened, and then it may not have happened.... maybe the report is a big lie, but even this site does tell the truth once in a while.... just like CNN or CTV sometimes tell the truth.

Deal with it, or prove it didn't happen.

I really don't care..... but hey.... at least it's creating a debate

 

[Praxius]

What's the difference between killing with starvation phospherous bombs or DU and stones. We see these stories about the savages we burn and hack and poison by the million and it's supposed to make our crimes the lesser because the ragheads are just animals afterall.

Hey I never said it was worse then our situations in our country.... I was saying we should use the same tactics for punishment of certain crimes..... I just don't think adultry would fall under this type of punishment though.

But hey, if I was permitted, I could easily show you a public castrastion of some jerk in a village who was found guilty of.... um.... what what it? Either rape or it was screwing around with kids..... either way they took him to the village square, put his d*ck on a block and chopped the bastid as an example and punishment for the crime.

Do I think that's barbarric?

Hell no.... we should be doing that. Don't rape or diddle kids and you keep your penis..... seems like a fair trade to me. Do it and it's lopped off..... do it again, you die.

Saves so much for tax payers rather then jail for a few years and then right back at it.

 

[karrie]

Many islamic countries seems to be, 'men obeying their god,(who's rules are made up by man anyway), and controlling women' under the
umbrella of religion.

While I know what you mean, and the majority of violence always seems to rain down on the weaker of the species, make no mistake that this religion is as much about controlling the men as it is about controlling the women. Just like most any other religion though, it was built with the social structure of the time in mind, and women were less strong, less outspoken, thus easier to target for bearing the brunt of the laws meant to force the populace to submit to their rules. But, these laws effect the men too. They mean that someone can accuse and kill your wife, regardless of how you view what she did. They mean someone can accuse and slaughter your daughter for having been raped. Someone can force your wives and daughters to hide in robes, and complaining will make you look like less of a man. The rule of Islam places great expectations on the role of a man in his house from what I've seen. And falling short of that role means putting everyone in your home in harms way.

 

[Praxius]

Amnesty International? Who owns them?

Who owns you?

Who gives a crap? People do certain things for certain reasons, be that personal or business. whether or not someone who works there is doing it for some agenda or for some personal hobby/desire, the information is still the same.

Cripes, I just don't get hald the people in these forums..... if they're not bitching about CNN, it's CTV.... if it's not CTV, it's CBC.... if not that, the it's the BBC, or Reuters, or ABC, or MSNBC, hell, it could be their local new paper two blocks from where they sit and they're always going to think they're constantly being lied to.

Maybe you and all of us are, but until you can prove it..... wtf is the point of getting all uppity and tightwadded over something that no matter what anybody's opinion about it is in here..... IT ISN'T GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN ANYTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

 

[scratch]

While I know what you mean, and the majority of violence always seems to rain down on the weaker of the species, make no mistake that this religion is as much about controlling the men as it is about controlling the women. Just like most any other religion though, it was built with the social structure of the time in mind, and women were less strong, less outspoken, thus easier to target for bearing the brunt of the laws meant to force the populace to submit to their rules. But, these laws effect the men too. They mean that someone can accuse and kill your wife, regardless of how you view what she did. They mean someone can accuse and slaughter your daughter for having been raped. Someone can force your wives and daughters to hide in robes, and complaining will make you look like less of a man. The rule of Islam places great expectations on the role of a man in his house from what I've seen. And falling short of that role means putting everyone in your home in harms way.

thank you for the explanation karrie.
scratch

 

[Avro]

While I know what you mean, and the majority of violence always seems to rain down on the weaker of the species, make no mistake that this religion is as much about controlling the men as it is about controlling the women. Just like most any other religion though, it was built with the social structure of the time in mind, and women were less strong, less outspoken, thus easier to target for bearing the brunt of the laws meant to force the populace to submit to their rules. But, these laws effect the men too. They mean that someone can accuse and kill your wife, regardless of how you view what she did. They mean someone can accuse and slaughter your daughter for having been raped. Someone can force your wives and daughters to hide in robes, and complaining will make you look like less of a man. The rule of Islam places great expectations on the role of a man in his house from what I've seen. And falling short of that role means putting everyone in your home in harms way.

Well boo hoo, the men are not the ones being slaughtered and are themselves doing the slaughtering.

I hope one day the Muslims of the east crawl out of the stone age, they won't though as long the West supports the tyranical governments there.