Soldier is hacked to death by Muslim men just yards from barracks in London

Durry

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Even at 20%, 75% new immigrants leaves 5% visible minority who are settled to volunteer for military service.

And yes, immigrants take medical care. They also provide it. They also take jobs white people won't, where they are OVERrepresented, like housecleaning, janitorial, minimum wage.... you're demanding new immigrants be just like you, and they're not. It's a fact of life.
Where are you getting these 75% and 5% numbers from?
I just did your work for you to show you that in Canada, 19% of Canadians are visible minorities!!

These must be your typical redneck pull out of the sky numbers that are used by rednecks like you to justify some stupid idiotic position!!
Dropped out of school early...eh!!
 

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Sorry. Leaving for work in 5 minutes.

Try wanking dude.

Geezus - You start earlier than I do. Gawdawful time to be going to work eh. I start at 5 am.Ceptin weekends when I arrive late.
 
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karrie

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Where are you getting these 75% and 5% numbers from?
I just did your work for you to show you that in Canada, 19% of Canadians are visible minorities!!

These must be your typical redneck pull out of the sky numbers that are used by rednecks like you to justify some stupid idiotic position!!
Dropped out of school early...eh!!

From the military....Can The Canadian Forces (CF) Reflect Canadian Society?


But, if all you can back your argument up with is insults, I'm not playing your game.

Feel free to read back, to where I said roughly 75%, for some quick and dirty math.

75% out of 20 leaves 5. So, 5% visible minorities in the army, when only 5% of visible minorities in Canada are not 'new immigrants', is a pretty decent representation, not the drastic failure you think.
 
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darkbeaver

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.. you really are sick if you're asking to see pics like that. That's disgusting..

Sometimes evidence is disgusting. Your point was what? If there is no evidence it is generally hard to proceed with a trial and damned hard to lay sticking charge. So all I got to see is some evidence that isn't reminiscent of Pine Wood Studio productions from the fifties.

Oddly enough- That is what John Bobbit said.

I refuse to bow to peer pressure and award you a thumbs up for that fabric softening reminder of an unrelated horrific crime.
 

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I think you got lost in your own numbers!!

First of all, your using old stats, 2001.
Here are the most recent stats.
The Daily —*2011*National Household Survey: Immigration, place of birth, citizenship, ethnic origin, visible minorities, language and religion

As you can see, Canada is made up of 19% visible minorities.

Using a simple ratio, if Canada has 19% visible minorities, then our military should have about 19% visible minorities. We are no where near this number!!

I do a lot of volunteer work, runs/walks etc, in these functions, again about 90% of the participants are Caucasian.. Nowhere near the 19%. You don't need to be in Canada long to volunteer your time to a good cause.

But yet, whenever I visit hospitals or medical clinics, guess what, these visible minorities are very well represented in obtaining the health services!!
And of course, when it comes to the work place, yeah, here again you hear them whining because they don't feel they are well represented!!
Perhaps minorities simply don't want to be in the military as much as the rest. You are suggesting that Canada forces minorities into being in the military?
 

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From the military....Can The Canadian Forces (CF) Reflect Canadian Society?


But, if all you can back your argument up with is insults, I'm not playing your game.

Feel free to read back, to where I said roughly 75%, for some quick and dirty math.

75% out of 20 leaves 5. So, 5% visible minorities in the army, when only 5% of visible minorities in Canada are not 'new immigrants', is a pretty decent representation, not the drastic failure you think.
Hahaha OMG, is this how you got your 5% number??? My my, how flawed your thinking process is!!!

Tell me, just where does it say immigrant visible minorities CANNOT join our military???

Can immi Vis mins be pipefittrs?
Can immigrant Vis mins be accountants ?
Can immigrant Vis mins be nurses?
Can immigrant vis mins be doctors, engineers etc etc???

But you imply they CANNOT join our military !!! Now just how silly is that??
Is this how you usually argue your positions, whenever you cannot back up your assertions, you just make up new laws to help your argument ?? Yep, pretty nifty I'd say, silly and immature but nifty!!

No karrie, even in your article, the military admits it can't recruit enough vis mins to duplicate Canadian society.

---quote from your article---
For visible minorities, the target set by the CF, in accordance with EE and the Human Rights Commission, is 7.8 percent, while visible minorities make up 13.4 percent of the population.
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I guess you missed this part..eh karrie.!!

Here's the bottom line karrie.
Immigrants and visible minorities do not carry their weight in contributing to Canadian society. They want the white guy to do all the heavy lifting!!
I have shown you that they do not join our military to keep our country strong and free and I have explained other examples where for example they do not volunteer much to help charity events but are only to eager to use its services!!

Most of these immigrants (vis mins) are here because THEY screwed up there country, so they immigrated here to find a better life. But most of them bring there failed ways with them, and as shown above they are apprently refusing to accept their share of the heavy lifting to make their new country, a good strong country. Again, they want the white guy to do this.

I work with a lot of them, so this is nothing new for me. They love to complain and want their fair share of the benefits but when it comes to the heavy lifting, suddenly they have a lot of reasons they can't do this or that.

BTW, I'm in favor of conscription for all new immigrants!!
The military makes the best Canadians !!
 

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BTW, I'm in favor of conscription for all new immigrants!!
The military makes the best Canadians !!

I like this idea..

 

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That's an insult BOOMER, report it.


Nobody reported your shennanigans bud. I caught it.

Andem warned members about mucking with quotes once before.

You kids can name-call all you like if it grabs you. As long as everyone knows what they're up to I could care less about future hurt feelings and e-boo boos.

As you were.
 

darkbeaver

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Even though conditions continue to deteriorate at the CC front lines we must double nay triple our vigilance and continue the battle on posts in poor taste at all costs even if it leads to CC body counts. When will this damn war be over?
 

karrie

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But you imply they CANNOT join our military !!! Now just how silly is that?? !


If you're confused by something, feel free to ask before jumping to conclusions about what I've said.

I said, that if visible minorities make up 20% of society, and 75% of that are 'new' immigrants, then that leaves only 5% of our visible minority population who are settled citizens with support systems. It makes perfect sense to me that the other 75% have other concerns on their mind, than joining the military.

As for your ridiculous notion that immigrants should be conscripted. I suspect you would change your tune quickly if you were actually in the army, dealing with new immigrants who have not become citizens at heart yet, marching with you. A soldier whose commitment you couldn't trust? What good would he be?
 

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As long as everyone knows what they're up to I could care less about future hurt feelings and e-boo boos.

Are e-band-aids provided for the e-boo boos or do we have to provide our own? Where exactly is the nurses station around here anyway?

;)

If you're confused by something, feel free to ask before jumping to conclusions about what I've said.

Karrie! You're jumping all over his raison e'tre!!!

Kidding....sort of. Asking questions only works for those who don't already think they have all the answers anyway.
 

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If you're confused by something, feel free to ask before jumping to conclusions about what I've said.

I said, that if visible minorities make up 20% of society, and 75% of that are 'new' immigrants, then that leaves only 5% of our visible minority population who are settled citizens with support systems. It makes perfect sense to me that the other 75% have other concerns on their mind, than joining the military.

As for your ridiculous notion that immigrants should be conscripted. I suspect you would change your tune quickly if you were actually in the army, dealing with new immigrants who have not become citizens at heart yet, marching with you. A soldier whose commitment you couldn't trust? What good would he be?
Your reasoning is getting sillier with each post!!

Let me help you with a few basic facts;

1) you don't become a Canadian citizen on the day you arrive here.
It takes a few years and you have to pass some tests to qualify.
By the time you become Canadian citizen, you have tons of support systems around you. The white guys have looked after that!!

2) joining the military can be just like another job. Not everybody has to go out and fight. The military offers great career opportunities and training and job advancements.
But yes, you do have certain expectations to meet. These are fairly minor but obviously to much for the vis mins to endure!!

I would have absolutely no concern with marching or fighting next to an immigrant who receives the military training.
Military makes great Canadians!!

You sure seem to like seeing the white guys doing all the heavy lifting!!!
Perhaps is because you also realize that these vis mins are pretty useless and feel you have to protect them so your putting up all these silly arguments for them!!

I
 

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Condemning Islam for what the radical fringe does is like condemning Christianity because of David Koresh, Jim Jones or some kid diddling priests.

No, because in 30 years there has been one David Koresh, one Jim Jones, and a bunch of kid diddling priests.............all of whom where acting in a manner completely the opposite of the example of Jesus Christ and the teachings of the New Testament.

Whereas in the last ten years there have been thousands of murderous attacks by Muslims, all of whom are acting in accordance with the example of Mohammed and the teachings of the Koran and hadith.