So what does happen when you die?

petros

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The only arbitrator between differing scientific opinions is experimentation.

Who has recent experimentation handy?
 

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The only arbitrator between differing scientific opinions is experimentation.


In that regard the theory of the electric universe crushes the gravity model every time. Take for instance just the study of comets. But still the dirty snowball idea is exchanged like it was gold even when every encounter proves them to be solid rock.

As long as he doesn't post a graph.


I've never seen him resort to that. His only argument is that I'm stupid a revelation of no novelty whatever.


My goodness what have we done to this thread. back to the subject. I have read that to survive death you need to cultivate a vessel for the soul while you live.
 

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My goodness what have we done to this thread. back to the subject. I have read that to survive death you need to cultivate a vessel for the soul while you live.

Now you are getting somewhere- we have nothing to indicate that anything besides the vehicle (crate, box, etc.) actually dies.
 

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I've never seen him resort to that. His only argument is that I'm stupid...
I've offered you a lot of arguments, and you know that as well as I do, but never that one as far as I can recall. It's typical of your kind of thinker to dismiss critics with something they've made up about them. You're obviously not stupid, you're just scientifically illiterate.

Now you are getting somewhere- we have nothing to indicate that anything besides the vehicle (crate, box, etc.) actually dies.
Neither do we have anything to indicate anything inside the vehicle survives its dissolution.
 

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I believe that when my time comes one of two things will happen.

  1. The synapses in my brain will spiral down until everything fades to back, then nothing.
  2. My soul will leave my body and I will pass out of this world to the next.
Option # 1 will be beyond my control and should this happen there is not a lot I can do except live my life as if this is the only one.

Option # 2 is a completely different scenario and has left me to consider what will be my greatest reward if there is an after-life and this worldly existence is merely a few heartbeats against an eternity of existence.

After a great deal of thought I have decided that I will wait until Unforgiven has met with his demise and when he is about to enter the next world I will be waiting to say:. "Told yuh Unf!" Then I will direct him to the kitchen where the the Ale flows from all faucets.
 

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Dexter Neither do we have anything to indicate anything inside the vehicle survives its dissolution.[/QUOTE said:
So we're back to square one we don't know whether there's life after death or not.

I believe that when my time comes one of two things will happen.

  1. The synapses in my brain will spiral down until everything fades to back, then nothing.
  2. My soul will leave my body and I will pass out of this world to the next.
Option # 1 will be beyond my control and should this happen there is not a lot I can do except live my life as if this is the only one.

Option # 2 is a completely different scenario and has left me to consider what will be my greatest reward if there is an after-life and this worldly existence is merely a few heartbeats against an eternity of existence.

After a great deal of thought I have decided that I will wait until Unforgiven has met with his demise and when he is about to enter the next world I will be waiting to say:. "Told yuh Unf!" Then I will direct him to the kitchen where the the Ale flows from all faucets.

The problem with #1 is none these bastards like Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin don't have to face the "report card". For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
 

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So we're back to square one we don't know whether there's life after death or not.



The problem with #1 is none these bastards like Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin don't have to face the "report card". For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Maybe they reincarnate as male Preying Mantises and have their mates bite their heads off or cockroaches crushed under someone's foot. Or maybe they will get flesh eating disease where there is no medical help available. Karma is fun to speculate on but it has its own methods of equalization.
 

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Maybe they reincarnate as male Preying Mantises and have their mates bite their heads off or cockroaches crushed under someone's foot. Or maybe they will get flesh eating disease where there is no medical help available. Karma is fun to speculate on but it has its own methods of equalization.

Sounds like fun- I sure wouldn't mind having a seat on that Karma board. :lol:
 

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I've offered you a lot of arguments, and you know that as well as I do, but never that one as far as I can recall. It's typical of your kind of thinker to dismiss critics with something they've made up about them. You're obviously not stupid, you're just scientifically illiterate.

Every point that I have made about the electric universe has been proven using the scientific method and every prediction made by that theory has been correct and verified by observation. There simply is nothing you can say about me that will change those facts. How is it that you can be scientifically literate about things that do not exist?
 

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Every point that I have made about the electric universe has been proven using the scientific method and every prediction made by that theory has been correct and verified by observation. There simply is nothing you can say about me that will change those facts. How is it that you can be scientifically literate about things that do not exist?
Faraday said that you can't have an electric field without a magnetic field and hence a magnetic field without an electrical one. If you have EM fields in space then without a doubt it MUST be paired to an electrical fields.


Faraday continued this idea to an ultimate expansion of his concept of the field of force to include not only the effects of electromagnetic fields, but EVERY force. The universe is filled with forces of one kind or another.

This is where the concept of the field of force gets very interesting.


Imagine an object and its field of force. Now imagine a second object with its field of force. Instead of curved lines indicating a single field, we now have a web, where the two fields of force overlap. Now, we all know that there are more than two objects emitting forces in the universe. Imagine the complexity of the web in which we are all caught, of which we are all a part, which we all, to varying degrees, can control.


Not only can we recognize that we are within a near infinite number of fields of force, but that a near infinite number of things are (or CAN BE) within one's own field of force, and both of these seemingly opposite relationships, just as the electric generator and the dynamo, can be used to one's advantage.

You cannot have an electric field without a magnetic field, just as you cannot be affected by the web without having an effect on it: The forces you emit affect the web of forces of the universe.
 

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If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a noise?

If there is no conscious being there to witness it, does the Universe exist in form?

Does the Universe exist without our conscious participation?

Is not universe a hologram and we are the projector?

Life is a manifestation of our thoughts and beliefs. What if what we experience is nothing more than a holographic image created by our mental programming and that programming is performed by others who have been programmed by others, ad infinitum. What if the program is all wrong? What if, long ago, a typographical error was made and people have been using it unknowingly ever since? Is it possible that what we think is reality is just a computer glitch that no one knows is a glitch? What would happen to somebody who saw the glitch and tried to tell people that their reality was a hoax and how to fix it? The story of JC comes to mind.
 

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Thank you JLM

I always feel I should be wearing a turban when I write things like I did.

Once I made my thoughts known to my friends after a card game broke up and got laughed into the kitchen....it took me a while to calm down because I was serious. Many people disagree violently with the idea.

My thought whether real or not gives me an explanation of why we are and why we live as we do making mistakes, making huge advances, giving help and killing others...... it all must be learned.

We have much existence to live through and one lifetime cannot present all the issues or tests.


Maybe not a turbun, but a golden halo, hehehe:) I agree with you ,
 

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Faraday said that you can't have an electric field without a magnetic field and hence a magnetic field without an electrical one. If you have EM fields in space then without a doubt it MUST be paired to an electrical fields.


Faraday continued this idea to an ultimate expansion of his concept of the field of force to include not only the effects of electromagnetic fields, but EVERY force. The universe is filled with forces of one kind or another.

This is where the concept of the field of force gets very interesting.


Imagine an object and its field of force. Now imagine a second object with its field of force. Instead of curved lines indicating a single field, we now have a web, where the two fields of force overlap. Now, we all know that there are more than two objects emitting forces in the universe. Imagine the complexity of the web in which we are all caught, of which we are all a part, which we all, to varying degrees, can control.


Not only can we recognize that we are within a near infinite number of fields of force, but that a near infinite number of things are (or CAN BE) within one's own field of force, and both of these seemingly opposite relationships, just as the electric generator and the dynamo, can be used to one's advantage.

You cannot have an electric field without a magnetic field, just as you cannot be affected by the web without having an effect on it: The forces you emit affect the web of forces of the universe.

You must also be scientifically illiterate, of course not as vulgar as me but similarly afflicted none the less. The universe is self aware in exactly the same way as a biological organism, only the scale differs.


So when you die you affect the field. Death is probably nothing to worry about, some arcing discharge initiated blinding white light followed by a short orientation in the next higher field and away you go to work again. Field constraints make it impossible to include the details in this post. Death sounds like this zzzzzzzzzzzzssttttsssssnnnnaaaaappp puff

The sun and its radiated EM field was identified as the source of all power a very long time ago. Religion and war were invented purely for the purpose of obscuring that truth in order to control mankind for the benefit of the elite. That knowledge was and still is very powerful, that's why we are educated in the opposite direction far away from the power.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a noise?

If there is no conscious being there to witness it, does the Universe exist in form?

Does the Universe exist without our conscious participation?

Is not universe a hologram and we are the projector?

Life is a manifestation of our thoughts and beliefs. What if what we experience is nothing more than a holographic image created by our mental programming and that programming is performed by others who have been programmed by others, ad infinitum. What if the program is all wrong? What if, long ago, a typographical error was made and people have been using it unknowingly ever since? Is it possible that what we think is reality is just a computer glitch that no one knows is a glitch? What would happen to somebody who saw the glitch and tried to tell people that their reality was a hoax and how to fix it? The story of JC comes to mind.

The universe is the ultimate conscious field. It is us and we are it.http://www.antenna-theory.com/
 
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Every point that I have made about the electric universe has been proven using the scientific method and every prediction made by that theory has been correct and verified by observation.
Again, typical. That's simply false, and repeating it endlessly doesn't make it true. If it were true, the electric cosmos theory would be the scientific orthodoxy; it's not because it doesn't work. It's been obvious almost from the beginning what your problem is. You're fairly bright, but anybody who thinks Velikovsky was right is both scientifically illiterate and lacks critical thinking skills.
 

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I don't think the answer to this is found in the realm of science- science deals with life but not necessarily death. Some have a hard time coming to terms with that. :smile: