So what does happen when you die?

petros

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oh him again, he's in everything, we need new actors. lol
Yeah lots of actors over time but the story and the overall meaning are fairly consistant. We are able to talk about the stories and actors but without those stories and actors odds are pretty damn high you and I would never get the chance to exist.

That's one truth about religion that I won't deny.
 

Dexter Sinister

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I always feel I should be wearing a turban when I write things like I did.

Once I made my thoughts known to my friends after a card game broke up and got laughed into the kitchen....it took me a while to calm down because I was serious. Many people disagree violently with the idea.
Sorry to hear that happened to you, you didn't deserve that. I don't disagree violently, but I do disagree, and I hope I'd have been more sensitive than your friends were in disagreeing with you. There's no credible evidence I've ever heard of that suggests any part of the personality survives the death of the body, everything points the other way. All the available evidence suggests that a whole and functioning personality requires a whole and functioning brain, pathological change in one of them points to pathological change in the other. Check out this for instance. That's a talk by a woman, a neuroscientist, who had a massive stroke, and she describes what happened to her when her left brain hemisphere shut down. She's got a book out about it too, called My Stroke of Insight, which I recommend. What she describes sounds exactly like the ecstatic religious experience, and the conclusion seems inescapable to me: that stuff comes from inside our own heads, not from any external agent. I think what happens when you die is that all of you dies, your body, your personality, your memories, all of it. You may live on in the memories of those who knew you, but that's in no meaningful sense you, your consciousness is gone.
 

AnnaG

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The trend to do things 'wrong' when the master is away was predetermined in it's prophecies. The words speak for themselves when you are looking for the simple truths. The verse is quite clear and the way around it is to do those sports of deals/decisions behind closed doors which is no different from the Temple leaders that plotted to kill Jesus.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.
Oh, jeee. More Bible verse. There's real evidence for you. Never mind using then senses you have, use the ability to suppose.

We are spiritual beings having a human experience not the other way around.





and we fart when we die.
Stuck on farts? ;)

Really ..... Note to self: leave the bodes out of the house and leave them downwind. With a resurrected body food would be taken just for the taste. I have no idea if farts stay with you in the new earth after you are judged as being righteous and are given immortality. (120 years old). Mosquitoes better have a decent job in that place, perhaps being the pollinates of the tree of life would make their collective hum a somewhat more welcome sound than it is when a person is deep in the swamps.
It's bacterial activity. Dead things rot. That makes gas. That is reality. Anything else is ifs and maybes
 

petros

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1Petros:4:15: Pick up dry cleaning.
1Petros:4:30: Take kid to basketball.
1Petros:4:45: Wait for UPS P&D
1Petros:5:00: Wapner...yeah Wapner
 

AnnaG

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Or maybe this wears out?

Abstract
Although the mineral magnetite (Fe3O4) is precipitated biochemically by bacteria, protists, and a variety of animals, it has not been documented previously in human tissue. Using an ultrasensitive superconducting magnetometer in a clean-lab environment, we have detected the presence of ferromagnetic material in a variety of tissues from the human brain. Magnetic particle extracts from solubilized brain tissues examined with high-resolution transmission electron microscopy, electron diffraction, and elemental analyses identify minerals in the magnetite-maghemite family, with many of the crystal morphologies and structures resembling strongly those precipitated by magnetotactic bacteria and fish. These magnetic and high-resolution transmission electron microscopy measurements imply the presence of a minimum of 5 million single-domain crystals per gram for most tissues in the brain and greater than 100 million crystals per gram for pia and dura. Magnetic property data indicate the crystals are in clumps of between 50 and 100 particles. Biogenic magnetite in the human brain may account for high-field saturation effects observed in the T1 and T2 values of magnetic resonance imaging and, perhaps, for a variety of biological effects of low-frequency magnetic fields.

wow Such a regurgitation of esoteric lingo all saying we have iron in our blood.

BTW, if it isn't a clean lab, it's useless.
 

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Single Magnetite Crystal in the Human Brain
lol If anyone had a lump of magnetite that size in their bra
in, they'd be a wee bit wacko. Not only that, they'd die on the spot as soon as they went through an MRI.

It's not iron and it's in the brain.
Fe is "Ferrum" it is iron. Magnetite is Fe++Fe+++2O4
 

AnnaG

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Why would they be wacko or die?
:roll: If they did not go through an MRI they'd be simply wacko. That's because there'd be a foreign lump in their heads interfering with normal functions.
If they went through an MRI their head would pop like a overcooked sausage.
 

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An interesting collection of ideas and thoughts - but the topic usually has much for everyone to consider and/or debunk

I don't equate (for some reason I can't pinpoint) that reincarnation is connected to religious belief as even sacred decrees are made by "mankind" - who is inherently flawed.

My hope is that what is learned through a lifetime or a series of liftime or "learnings" brings the soul to another level of understanding about life and how we interact.

While I believe we are specially endowed with our brains I think we are nowhere halfway (or less) to a goal
which will ultimately fulfill what we are learning now throughout our lives.

Earlier on Edgar Cayce was mentioned - I read his accounts and found them fascinating - at least the possibility of a reason for "us" is possible - perhaps not - perhaps we are just another non-essential species residing on this planet - but we continue to record, evaluate and leave knowledge behind for the next visitors.

That is unique when compared with other species or plant life on the earth. As with all things: there is a reason. I choose to believe there is a reason and it makes me feel worthwhile - (perhaps that would be the only reason but I'll accept it).
 

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An interesting collection of ideas and thoughts - but the topic usually has much for everyone to consider and/or debunk

I don't equate (for some reason I can't pinpoint) that reincarnation is connected to religious belief as even sacred decrees are made by "mankind" - who is inherently flawed.

My hope is that what is learned through a lifetime or a series of liftime or "learnings" brings the soul to another level of understanding about life and how we interact.

While I believe we are specially endowed with our brains I think we are nowhere halfway (or less) to a goal
which will ultimately fulfill what we are learning now throughout our lives.

Earlier on Edgar Cayce was mentioned - I read his accounts and found them fascinating - at least the possibility of a reason for "us" is possible - perhaps not - perhaps we are just another non-essential species residing on this planet - but we continue to record, evaluate and leave knowledge behind for the next visitors.

That is unique when compared with other species or plant life on the earth. As with all things: there is a reason. I choose to believe there is a reason and it makes me feel worthwhile - (perhaps that would be the only reason but I'll accept it).

Curio- I tend to agree with a lot of what you say, but of course none of us really knows anything for sure, maybe those who think like Talloola are right and maybe you're right and maybe I'm right. I think there is a connection between reincarnation and religion in that some of the Eastern religions believe in it, even to the extent of jumping from one specy to another...........hence cows being sacred. I don't quite buy that one. One thing for sure there is a lot of weird stuff going on in the world that we just don't understand. Ghosts are another whole new topic that can't be dismissed.
 

YukonJack

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If there IS a life after death, I would rather be safe (in believing that there is) than sorry, as the all-knowing intellectual who KNOWS otherwise.