So what does happen when you die?

[MHz]

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."
---K MARX

The trend to do things 'wrong' when the master is away was predetermined in it's prophecies. The words speak for themselves when you are looking for the simple truths. The verse is quite clear and the way around it is to do those sports of deals/decisions behind closed doors which is no different from the Temple leaders that plotted to kill Jesus.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.

 

[Spade]

The trend to do things 'wrong' when the master is away was predetermined in it's prophecies. The words speak for themselves when you are looking for the simple truths. The verse is quite clear and the way around it is to do those sports of deals/decisions behind closed doors which is no different from the Temple leaders that plotted to kill Jesus.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." 1 Corinthians 13:11 (KJV)

 

[Cliffy]

If you believe we are recycled then perhaps you can answer this. What is the purpose of not retaining any memories of our previous lives is it is some sort of quest. Would it be cheating if a person intentionally messed up the correct version of some sign just because it was so much 'fun' doing the opposite?

Can you remember everything that you experienced in this life with total and instant recall? Just imagine if you had total recall of a thousand lives. Would you be able to discern which life the memory was from. Life is confusing enough without recall of past ones. Each life has it's purpose and lessons to learn. The assessment part comes after you give up the vehicle. The only one to judge you is you, since you created you in the first place (which is why you were created in your own [god] image.)

 

[petros]

We are spiritual beings having a human experience not the other way around.





and we fart when we die.

 

[MHz]

Can you remember everything that you experienced in this life with total and instant recall? Just imagine if you had total recall of a thousand lives. Would you be able to discern which life the memory was from. Life is confusing enough without recall of past ones. Each life has it's purpose and lessons to learn. The assessment part comes after you give up the vehicle. The only one to judge you is you, since you created you in the first place (which is why you were created in your own [god] image.)

If recall was there you could whittle that trip through the 12 signs down to as few as 24 if you were really on the ball. If not the whole thing then just the things you messed up that may have gotten you killed a little early.

We are spiritual beings having a human experience not the other way around.





and we fart when we die.

With a fart you ass tightens up again, that isn't the case with death.

 

[petros]

If recall was there you could whittle that trip through the 12 signs down to as few as 24 if you were really on the ball. If not the whole thing then just the things you messed up that may have gotten you killed a little early.


With a fart you ass tightens up again, that isn't the case with death.

rigor does a good job of snapping shut the sphincter. If it didn't there wouldn't be bloating of corpses. During bloating the farts are quite regular.

 

[MHz]

rigor does a good job of snapping shut the sphincter. If it didn't there wouldn't be bloating of corpses. During bloating the farts are quite regular.

Really ..... Note to self: leave the bodes out of the house and leave them downwind. With a resurrected body food would be taken just for the taste. I have no idea if farts stay with you in the new earth after you are judged as being righteous and are given immortality. (120 years old). Mosquitoes better have a decent job in that place, perhaps being the pollinates of the tree of life would make their collective hum a somewhat more welcome sound than it is when a person is deep in the swamps.

 

[lone wolf]

Gee ... zombies didn't eat in the movie.

 

[petros]

Really ..... Note to self: leave the bodes out of the house and leave them downwind. With a resurrected body food would be taken just for the taste. I have no idea if farts stay with you in the new earth after you are judged as being righteous and are given immortality.

Farts have a life of their own and are all unique. Farts are indicative that God has a sense of humour.

Besides none of us are taking anything anywhere.
No body. No persona. No ego.
That's what makes it heaven.

 

[talloola]

That accounts for the body (vehicle, container, whatever) but what about the rest of us? :smile:

I allready explained that part - I don't believe in anything other than the body - after death, so I
don't have any problem trying to figure that out, as some others do.

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."
---K MARX

very well said

I didn't have to give up much of anything, at the age of 12, the belief in god/religion began to drain
out of my brain like a fresh feeling of spring after a long rain, and out of that came a new growth
for me that freed me of all guilt related feelings toward religion I had up till that time, I did not
look back ever again, surged forward with a free mind and a clean slate and I can die that way, and
know I was true to myself, and stay in the earth forever with all of my ancestors before me.

 

[petros]

I allready explained that part - I don't believe in anything other than the body - after death, so I
don't have any problem trying to figure that out, as some others do.



very well said

I didn't have to give up much of anything, at the age of 12, the belief in god/religion began to drain
out of my brain like a fresh feeling of spring after a long rain, and out of that came a new growth
for me that freed me of all guilt related feelings toward religion I had up till that time, I did not
look back ever again, surged forward with a free mind and a clean slate and I can die that way, and
know I was true to myself, and stay in the earth forever with all of my ancestors before me.

I heard about a chick who did that by eating an apple but the story goes awry after that point.

 

[talloola]

I heard about a chick who did that by eating an apple but the story goes awry after that point.

a goofy story, I don't read fiction.

 

[petros]

a goody story, I don't read fiction.

It's okay. I peeked at the end. The devil did it.

 

[gerryh]

This is not a discussion about the necessity of religion and religon stands in the world today for better or for worse....

This is a thread about death and what comes after....
I'm just curious to know where people stand on this.....of what canadians are thinking across the country about life after death...

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I know this can be a touchy subject so i will ask everyone to be considerate and respectful about their comments.....

I see it didn't take long to move away from the OP's request and start making fun of some peoples beliefs.

 

[petros]

Or maybe this wears out?

Abstract
Although the mineral magnetite (Fe3O4) is precipitated biochemically by bacteria, protists, and a variety of animals, it has not been documented previously in human tissue. Using an ultrasensitive superconducting magnetometer in a clean-lab environment, we have detected the presence of ferromagnetic material in a variety of tissues from the human brain. Magnetic particle extracts from solubilized brain tissues examined with high-resolution transmission electron microscopy, electron diffraction, and elemental analyses identify minerals in the magnetite-maghemite family, with many of the crystal morphologies and structures resembling strongly those precipitated by magnetotactic bacteria and fish. These magnetic and high-resolution transmission electron microscopy measurements imply the presence of a minimum of 5 million single-domain crystals per gram for most tissues in the brain and greater than 100 million crystals per gram for pia and dura. Magnetic property data indicate the crystals are in clumps of between 50 and 100 particles. Biogenic magnetite in the human brain may account for high-field saturation effects observed in the T1 and T2 values of magnetic resonance imaging and, perhaps, for a variety of biological effects of low-frequency magnetic fields.

 

[AnnaG]

I hope I don't get asked to leave for sharing my thoughts.

This isn't original - I had an aunt to believed the following and she related it to me and to my sisters and somehow as I age, it seems to make more and more sense.

The body is the vessel for the soul. It is given life-form to live, educate, adopt morals, realities, choices, honest living or dishonest existence. Once the body dies, the soul moves at its own volution to
take up a place in another body which may have new teaching to learn, or more advanced living choices.

I think the human soul is an amazing gift for whatever reason and it hurts me to think our souls are worn out in one human life term (or even shorter due illness or accident)....when it has not had time to understand how the life was lived and why.

I think the soul is mapping and learning constantly while active for whatever reason I have no way to understand.

I love this idea. But I can't really see anything we think, feel, or hope for carrying on past what we are.

And what we are, to each other and ourselves is very special to us. But not so for the rest of the universe. I really hope for some of our sakes that you are right. I will not bank on it, though..

 

[petros]

Single Magnetite Crystal in the Human Brain

 

[talloola]

It's okay. I peeked at the end. The devil did it.

oh him again, he's in everything, we need new actors. lol

 

[AnnaG]

Thank you JLM

I always feel I should be wearing a turban when I write things like I did.

Once I made my thoughts known to my friends after a card game broke up and got laughed into the kitchen....it took me a while to calm down because I was serious. Many people disagree violently with the idea.

My thought whether real or not gives me an explanation of why we are and why we live as we do making mistakes, making huge advances, giving help and killing others...... it all must be learned.

We have much existence to live through and one lifetime cannot present all the issues or tests.

But it is all we have that we know of. Anything else is supposition. Might as well live with what we have rather than live on ifs and maybes.

 

[ironsides]

When you die, you go kaput, then there is nothing. Or there is the theory that we just wander around doing nothing,.