So Trudeau is a crook?

petros

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Civil Law or Admiralty Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_law
Admiralty law or maritime law is a body of law that governs nautical issues and private maritime disputes. Admiralty law consists of both domestic law on maritime activities, and private international law governing the relationships between private parties operating or using ocean-going ships. While each legal jurisdiction usually has its own legislation governing maritime matters, the international nature of the topic and the need for uniformity has, since 1900, led to considerable international maritime law developments, including numerous multilateral treaties.[a]
Admiralty law may be distinguished from the Law of the Sea, which is a body of public international law dealing with navigational rights, mineral rights, jurisdiction over coastal waters, and the maritime relationships between nations. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea has been adopted by 167 countrieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_law#cite_note-3 and the European Union, and disputes are resolved at the ITLOS tribunal in Hamburg.
You and reality are parting ways again.

Attorney GENERAL.

Not Attorney ADMIRAL.
 

White_Unifier

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Raybould could have been loyal to her own Party and her own Prime Minister. But instead she chose to be a self-aggrandizing feminist martyr.
Trudeau wanted gender fairness in positions of power and that's what he has gotten...Climate Barbie and Everybody Loves Raybould. He should have stuck with hiring from the old boy's club, where loyalty supersedes status climbing.

What does she have to do with feminism. I don't know if she identifies as a femimist or not since I know little about her to be honest. But even if she does identify with feminism, I'm not aware that she ever brought up the subject of women's equality or anything else of the sort her. Her genitalia have nothing to do with this.

And nein, Mein Herr, we do not want our MPs to be loyal to the Partei if you know what I mean. They need to serve the best interests of the people.
 

taxslave

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There's one more opinion for what it's worth. On top of all Justin's other faults, it's now been confirmed he is a LIAR. The rest of the Liberal bozos should shut up while they are behind. Putting jobs ahead of personal integrity is a SURE sign of not being fit for public office. What kind of a person would approve of a job steeped in corruption?
My union. And the rest of the building trades that got Horgan to give them all the government work.
 

Decapoda

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What was obstructed?

Thankfully for JWR, nothing. But that didn't stop the Libs and the Privy Council clerk from trying again and again to pressure her to obstruct the decision of the Director of Public Prosecutions to prosecute SNC for their bribery and ethics violations. JWR is the only thing that prevented Trudeau from acting like a third world despot and using political power to influence justice.

Something tells me this doesn't impress you at all though, just like Trudeau you seem to have your head firmly up your a** and think this is all fine.
 

White_Unifier

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I'll try to play devil's advocate here for a moment. Is it possible that in the Prime Minister's mind, he was not exerting that much pressure on Wilson-Raybould and that he did not remove her due to that affair, but that she interpreted his behaviour as pressure and read too much between the lines of certain statements to come to her beliefs? In other words, is it possible that both of their stories are true from each their perspectives?

While I think that's possible to a small degree (i.e. that maybe Wilson-Raybould's memory has hyperbolized things somewhat), I do think that that her statement is true for the most part. If anything, she seemed cautious about not accusing the PM of anything beyond stating facts of which she was certain, so if anything, her statement might even be underplaying somewhat the pressure put on her. Either way though, even if we suppose that her memory has hyperbolized things somewhat, the hard facts that she stated even if we ignore her interpretation of and beliefs about them are already enough to make the PM look bad. Even if we suppose that he wasn't aware of how much pressure she might feel from statements of his and such, it still raises questions about his ability to communicate his intentions clearly. How can you govern effectively without the ability to clearly communicate your intentions?

So even if we give the PM as much benefit of the doubt as possible in this (and I'm being very generous here), we can say at the very least that he's an extremely poor communicator, which certainly makes him less than leadership material for which clear communication is essential. Again, I'm being very generous towards him here.
 

MHz

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You and reality are parting ways again.

Attorney GENERAL.

Not Attorney ADMIRAL.
Okay not Sherlock.
http://lawjournal.mcgill.ca/userfiles/other/2324371-47.3.Stone.pdf
Canada's Admiralty Courtin the Twentieth CenturyArthur J. Stone*The author outlines the debate surrounding the creation of Canada's admiralty court. This debate was fuelled by the desire for autonomy from England and the disagreement amongst Canadian politicians re-garding which court was best suited to exercise admi-ralty jurisdiction. In 1891, more than thirty years after this debate began, the Exchequer Court of Canada, a national admiralty court, was declared, replacing the unpopular British vice-admiralty courts. The jurisdic-tion of this court was generally consistent with the ex-isting English admiralty jurisdiction; it was not until1931 that Canada was able to decide the jurisdiction of its own court. Since then, this jurisdiction has been en-larged by federal legislative measures, most notably the Federal Court Act of 1971, which continued the Ex-chequer Court under the Federal Court of Canada.An understanding of Canadian maritime law iscrucial in order to comprehend fully the new, broad-ened jurisdiction of the Federal Court of Canada. The author traces the historical roots of maritime law backto the ancient sea codes and ordinances of continental Europe and to Roman law. Maritime law has continued to evolve in the hands of judges and the legislature and will continue to do so, making a place for Canada's own admiralty court among the leading admiralty courts of the world.
 

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I'm not really up on legal jargon but it sounds to me from deciphering Wilson - Raybould's statement that Trudeau is a crook?
hes a politician. ;) the conservatives are out to get him by hook or by crook. ;)
 

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Okay not Sherlock.
http://lawjournal.mcgill.ca/userfiles/other/2324371-47.3.Stone.pdf
Canada's Admiralty Courtin the Twentieth CenturyArthur J. Stone*The author outlines the debate surrounding the creation of Canada's admiralty court. This debate was fuelled by the desire for autonomy from England and the disagreement amongst Canadian politicians re-garding which court was best suited to exercise admi-ralty jurisdiction. In 1891, more than thirty years after this debate began, the Exchequer Court of Canada, a national admiralty court, was declared, replacing the unpopular British vice-admiralty courts. The jurisdic-tion of this court was generally consistent with the ex-isting English admiralty jurisdiction; it was not until1931 that Canada was able to decide the jurisdiction of its own court. Since then, this jurisdiction has been en-larged by federal legislative measures, most notably the Federal Court Act of 1971, which continued the Ex-chequer Court under the Federal Court of Canada.An understanding of Canadian maritime law iscrucial in order to comprehend fully the new, broad-ened jurisdiction of the Federal Court of Canada. The author traces the historical roots of maritime law backto the ancient sea codes and ordinances of continental Europe and to Roman law. Maritime law has continued to evolve in the hands of judges and the legislature and will continue to do so, making a place for Canada's own admiralty court among the leading admiralty courts of the world.

And how exactly does this link to the AG's office?
 

MHz

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Where does the law he is said to have broken come from originally.



https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/contract-law
Contracts Under Civil and Common Law

Unlike other agreements, a contract is a legally binding promise; if one of the parties fails or refuses to fulfil its promise (for example, to pay the agreed price, to provide the rented space or to pay the employee's salary) without a valid reason recognized by law, the party suffering the consequence of this breach of promise may call upon the courts either to force the defaulting party to carry out its promise (specific performance) or to demand compensation in the form of damages.
Québec civil law and Canadian common law generally follow similar rules in this regard: a contract legally entered into represents a legal bond between the parties. Parties are free to contract whenever and for whatever reason they wish. The only limits to absolute contractual freedom are certain restrictions imposed by legislation and by accepted ethics. Contracts contrary to a statutory law such as the Canadian Criminal Code are null and void (such as a work contract for a professional killer, or a prostitute). The same is true for a contract that goes against accepted ethics or, what is called in civil law, public order.
Civil Code regulations governing contracts in Québec (articles 1377, 1456 of the Québec Civil Code – QCC) are derived mainly from French civil law, which in turn draws its sources from Roman law. In other provinces, regulations governing contracts are based mostly on jurisprudence (previous court decisions) and on the traditional British common law.
Many provinces, however, have adopted legislation codifying the rules of certain contracts, particularly sales and consumer contracts. Although Canada's two major legal systems differ in certain respects for contract law, the practical solutions they provide are very similar when not identical.
 

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Thankfully for JWR, nothing. But that didn't stop the Libs and the Privy Council clerk from trying again and again to pressure her to obstruct the decision of the Director of Public Prosecutions to prosecute SNC for their bribery and ethics violations. JWR is the only thing that prevented Trudeau from acting like a third world despot and using political power to influence justice.

Something tells me this doesn't impress you at all though, just like Trudeau you seem to have your head firmly up your a** and think this is all fine.
The only difference now is that all the innocent people at SNC will be held accountable for the actions of the few at the top.

That is what the former attorney general made damn sure of
 

Hoof Hearted

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Raybould is white-knighting this whole affair to appear virtuous and above reproach...as if she was just a mere spectator to it all. And exactly who in the Media will call her out for playing the victim card? Nobody...nada....because they would risk losing their job.

So you really are left with fake news from stifled editors and reporters who can't risk telling the truth.
 

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The only difference now is that all the innocent people at SNC will be held accountable for the actions of the few at the top.
That is what the former attorney general made damn sure of
You don't know that for sure. Lavalin has not been cut loose and they may very well be too big to fail. They sure wouldn't be the first ones. They have to compete against snake pits like Haliburton in a big, bad world where the word "scruples" is the punch line of a joke.

What you do know is that the Attorney General did her job properly and that the P.M.O. interacted with her improperly.

Your Justin uses "Rule of Law" as part of his brand. Walk the walk or shut your gate.
 

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Thus the root of the problem. I bet many will vote for a shady Conservative or NDP candidate over a Liberal of character just because they don't like the party leader. Makes us wonder about democracy.

No party is honest or corrupt. The integrity or lack thereof comes from the individual members of that party. And yes, that applies to every political party.
I don’t disagree , however reality doesn’t care about what should or could be .
 

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I'll try to play devil's advocate here for a moment. Is it possible that in the Prime Minister's mind,
What mind? It is more than obvious that he was not issued one at birth - hence the need for the real PM buttsy who still hangs in the wings - or on his cellphone.