Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week

[earth_as_one]

I suggest people read the Goldstone report and judge Israel for themselves.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf

Anyone who supports Israel's actions is either callous or ignorant:

...the policy of blockade that
preceded the operations and that in the Mission’s view amounts to collective punishment intentionally inflicted by the Government of Israel on the people of the Gaza Strip. When
the operations began, the Gaza Strip had been under a severe regime of closures and
restrictions on the movement of people, goods and services for almost three years. This
included basic necessities of life, such as food and medical supplies, and products required
for the conduct of daily life, such as fuel, electricity, school items, and repair and
construction material. These measures were imposed by Israel purportedly to isolate and
weaken Hamas after its electoral victory in view of the perceived continuing threat to
Israel’s security that it represented. Their effect was compounded by the withholding of
financial and other assistance by some donors on similar grounds. Adding hardship to the
already difficult situation in the Gaza Strip, the effects of the prolonged blockade did not
spare any aspect of the life of Gazans. Prior to the military operation, the Gaza economy
had been depleted, the health sector beleaguered, the population had been made dependent
on humanitarian assistance for survival and the conduct of daily life. Men, women and
children were psychologically suffering from long-standing poverty, insecurity and
violence, and enforced confinement in a heavily overcrowded territory. The dignity of the
people of Gaza had been severely eroded. This was the situation in the Gaza Strip when the
Israeli armed forces launched their offensive in December 2008....

...Several measures adopted by Israel in the West Bank during and following the
military operations in Gaza also further deepen Israel’s control over the West Bank,
including East Jerusalem, and point to a convergence of objectives with the Gaza military
operations. Such measures include increased land expropriation, house demolitions,
demolition orders and permits to build homes in settlements, greater and more formalized
access and movement restrictions on Palestinians, new and stricter procedures for
residents of the Gaza Strip to change their residency to the West Bank....

...1881. When the Mission conducted its first visit to the Gaza Strip in early June 2009,
almost five months had passed since the end of the Israeli military operations. The
devastating effects of the operations on the population were, however, unequivocally
manifest. In addition to the visible destruction of houses, factories, wells, schools, hospitals,
police stations and other public buildings, the sight of families, including the elderly and
children, still living amid the rubble of their former dwellings – no reconstruction possible
due to the continuing blockade – was evidence of the protracted impact of the operations
on the living conditions of the Gaza population....

...1887. The timing of the first Israeli attack, at 11.30 a.m. on a weekday, when children were
returning from school and the streets of Gaza were crowded with people going about their
daily business, appears to have been calculated to create the greatest disruption and
widespread panic among the civilian population. The treatment of many civilians detained
or even killed while trying to surrender is one manifestation of the way in which the
effective rules of engagement, standard operating procedures and instructions to the troops
on the ground appear to have been framed in order to create an environment in which due
regard for civilian lives and basic human dignity was replaced with disregard for basic
international humanitarian law and human rights norms....

...1891. It is clear from evidence gathered by the Mission that the destruction of food supply
installations, water sanitation systems, concrete factories and residential houses was the
result of a deliberate and systematic policy by the Israeli armed forces. It was not carried
out because those objects presented a military threat or opportunity, but to make the daily
process of living, and dignified living, more difficult for the civilian population.
1892. Allied to the systematic destruction of the economic capacity of the Gaza Strip, there
appears also to have been an assault on the dignity of the people. This was seen not only in
the use of human shields and unlawful detentions sometimes in unacceptable conditions,
but also in the vandalizing of houses when occupied and the way in which people were
treated when their houses were entered. The graffiti on the walls, the obscenities and often
racist slogans, all constituted an overall image of humiliation and dehumanization of the
Palestinian population....

...what occurred in just over three
weeks at the end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009 was a deliberately disproportionate
attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorize a civilian population, radically diminish
its local economic capacity both to work and to provide for itself, and to force upon it an
ever increasing sense of dependency and vulnerability....

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf

 

[CDNBear]

I suggest people read the Goldstone report and judge Israel for themselves.

I read it eao. I then answered your challenge. Yet you still ignore it.

I know I'm not on ignore, you were answering my posts blindly just the other day.

Anyone who supports Israel's actions is either callous or ignorant:

Anyone who puts forth a challenge to read the report, supply page and paragraph numbers, only to ignore it, rings hallow in credibility when they won't acknowledge that someone has answered their challenge.

Are you afraid of the truth eao?

 

[MHz]

Gross would be changing 'and' to 'with', first you kill the horse and now you try and pretend there is somebody else there with you to sodomize you and your poor dead horse with one word being the only complaint, perhaps you should get that saying tattooed on your ass.

My horse is dong just fine. not long ago we were at the North-pole doing some research and it was proved that if you left there on Thursday you could be gone 4 days and arrive back at the North-pole on Thursday.

You don't seem to be too eager to talk about the follow-up the UN released a short time ago. You have missed a few other questions also.

The 100-10 vote questions, you seem bent on being labeled a rebel by the 100 countries.

 

[Colpy]

I suggest people read the Goldstone report and judge Israel for themselves.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf

Anyone who supports Israel's actions is either callous or ignorant:

I suggest that anyone remotely interested in the truth stay well away from anything remotely resembling a United Nations judgement on Israel.

We saw the Durban Conference, thank you. We need not see anything else.

 

[earth_as_one]

I suggest that anyone remotely interested in the truth stay well away from anything remotely resembling a United Nations judgement on Israel.

We saw the Durban Conference, thank you. We need not see anything else.

I bet you never read that report either. Most likely all you know is based on misleading statements by other people about the report. That level of knowledge would qualify as ignorance of the report's contents.

I went through thereport and out of over two hundred agreed statements, only two reference Israel, one references the holocaust and several reference anti-semiticism.

60. We recall that the Holocaust must never be forgotten;

61. We recognize with deep concern the increase in anti-Semitism and Islamophobia
in various parts of the world, as well as the emergence of racial and violent movements based on racism and discriminatory ideas against Jewish, Muslim and Arab communities;​

63. We are concerned about the plight of the Palestinian people under foreign
occupation. We recognize the inalienable right of the Palestinian people to self-determination
and to the establishment of an independent State and we recognize the right to security for all
States in the region, including Israel, and call upon all States to support the peace process and
bring it to an early conclusion;​

64. We call for a just, comprehensive and lasting peace in the region in which all
peoples shall co-exist and enjoy equality, justice and internationally recognized human rights,
and security;​

65. We recognize the right of refugees to return voluntarily to their homes and
properties in dignity and safety, and urge all States to facilitate such return;​

150. Calls upon States, in opposing all forms of racism, to recognize the need to
counter anti-Semitism, anti-Arabism and Islamophobia world-wide, and urges all States to take
effective measures to prevent the emergence of movements based on racism and discriminatory ideas concerning these communities;​

151. As for the situation in the Middle East, calls for the end of violence and the swift
resumption of negotiations, respect for international human rights and humanitarian law, respect
for the principle of self-determination and the end of all suffering, thus allowing Israel and the​

Palestinians to resume the peace process, and to develop and prosper in security and freedom;

http://www.un.org./WCAR/durban.pdf

That's it.

Most of the above is merely an affirmation of respect for international laws.

 

[Colpy]

I bet you never read that report either. Most likely all you know is based on misleading statements by other people about the report. That level of knowledge would qualify as ignorance of the report's contents.

I went through thereport and out of over two hundred agreed statements, only two reference Israel, one references the holocaust and several reference anti-semiticism.




That's it.

Most of the above is merely an affirmation of respect for international laws.

No, I did not read it.....nor do I intend to read it.....22 days of attacks, only 1416 dead at most, a significant portion of them militants.........the accusation of war crimes is idiotic.

You have to look at the big picture.

 

[MHz]

Why that is only 64 a day, not even worth mentioning. Now a police officer is a militant, the guards for a water treatment plant are now militants, is that correct?

 

[Colpy]

Why that is only 64 a day, not even worth mentioning. Now a police officer is a militant, the guards for a water treatment plant are now militants, is that correct?

The government is Hamas. Anyone carrying arms under the authority of the Hamas government is a militant....believe me, Hamas certainly does NOT allow anyone else to carry arms.

Hitting the police recruits was like hitting a military training area....a legitimate target.

BTW, in World War Two we killed 30,000 in Dresden in a night, 100,000 in Tokyo in a night............with conventional weapons...........and the technology of 65 years ago. Sixty four a day is called RESTRAINT, and lots of it.

 

[MHz]

So you want a population of 1.5 M to have no police officers and the best way to show them how to keep the peace is to kill all their policemen. What a strange little bird you are. Seeany payslips that include 'combat pay'?

 

[Goober]

I bet you never read that report either. Most likely all you know is based on misleading statements by other people about the report. That level of knowledge would qualify as ignorance of the report's contents.

I went through thereport and out of over two hundred agreed statements, only two reference Israel, one references the holocaust and several reference anti-semiticism.




That's it.

Most of the above is merely an affirmation of respect for international laws.

Of course and Hamas just does not ever carry weapons only flowers and throw rose petals in front of you as you walk - Never execute their enemies - Fellow Palestinians I might add that somewhat disagree with their dogma - All they want is the total destruction of Israel and all Jews - Something that you as a believer that Israel plans a genocide of Palestinians and that the media is controlled by Jews -They also carry flowers and help little old ladies across the street - What a freak - Go back to your little hole and read up on the Protocols of the Elders - Some may have the impression that I have a dislike for you - They would be incorrect - i have a total distaste for any and all racists - and by the way Racists do not always come in white. They come in all hues and colours of the human race.

 

[MHz]

BTW, in World War Two we killed 30,000 in Dresden in a night, 100,000 in Tokyo in a night............with conventional weapons...........and the technology of 65 years ago. Sixty four a day is called RESTRAINT, and lots of it.

Other than showing Stalin what we are capable of doing to a city full of civilians the purpose of Dresden was what?

You brag about those those civilian massacres, in the next breath you will condemn civilian deaths caused by Germany in the same war.

 

[earth_as_one]

No, I did not read it.....nor do I intend to read it.....22 days of attacks, only 1416 dead at most, a significant portion of them militants.........the accusation of war crimes is idiotic.

You have to look at the big picture.

How would you know if war crimes allegations are idiotic? You admit you've never read the report. I'll give you points for being honest, but you can't claim to have an informed opinion about a report you haven't read:

...acts that deprive Palestinians in the Gaza
Strip of their means of subsistence, employment, housing and water, that deny their freedom of
movement and their right to leave and enter their own country, that limit their rights to access a
court of law and an effective remedy, could lead a competent court to find that the crime of
persecution, a crime against humanity, has been committed....

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

Idiotic is believing you know the contents of a report, you've never read.

 

[earth_as_one]

...What a freak - Go back to your little hole and read up on the Protocols of the Elders - Some may have the impression that I have a dislike for you - They would be incorrect - i have a total distaste for any and all racists - and by the way Racists do not always come in white. They come in all hues and colours of the human race...

Maybe you should read the report too:

...on arrival at al-Kaklouk, everyone was asked to clamber
down into trenches, which had been dug to create a pit surrounded by a wall of sand, about three
metres high. There were three such pits, each of which was surrounded by barbed wire. They
were estimated to cover about 7,000 square metres (“six or seven donums”) each. AD/01
described how they were assembled in long single files, rather than massed together, and held in
these pits, in the open air and exposed to cold temperatures for three days (till 8 January). Each
pit accommodated approximately 20 people. They were forced to sit in stress positions, on their
knees and leaning forward keeping their heads down. They were monitored by soldiers and were
not allowed to communicate with each other. They had no access to food or water on the first
day of their internment, and were given a sip of water and an olive each to eat on the second and
third days of their detention (6 and 7 January). They had limited access to toilet facilities. The
men had to wait for two to three hours after asking before they were allowed to leave the pits to
relieve themselves and sometimes were able to remove their blindfolds for the purpose. A few of
them were told to relieve themselves inside the pit, behind a small mount of sand. They stated
that it was culturally too difficult for the women to seek permission to relieve themselves and
they did not ask.
1113. AD/01 states that some tanks were inside the pit with at least one tank positioned at the
eastern end.553 While the people were held there, the tank facing inland each day sporadically
fired on the houses along the road opposite the site...

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

Apparently these people mostly shivered, pissed and crapped themselves. Entire families including children were used as human shields to protect Israeli tanks and artillery. They were also used to protect forward Israeli command posts and sniper positions.

 

[CDNBear]

Gross would be changing 'and' to 'with', first you kill the horse and now you try and pretend there is somebody else there with you to sodomize you and your poor dead horse with one word being the only complaint, perhaps you should get that saying tattooed on your ass.

Look, your fasination with having sex with me, a dead horse and my ass, is getting troublesome. If it doesn't cease, I'll have to report your increasingly bizarre posts as deviant sexual pornography.

My horse is dong just fine. not long ago we were at the North-pole doing some research and it was proved that if you left there on Thursday you could be gone 4 days and arrive back at the North-pole on Thursday.

I see you're off your meds again.

You don't seem to be too eager to talk about the follow-up the UN released a short time ago. You have missed a few other questions also.

I've missed nothing and have answered every question.

The 100-10 vote questions, you seem bent on being labeled a rebel by the 100 countries.

How did you come to that conclusion if I didn't answer? :lol:

I bet you never read that report either.

Given you have conveniently failed to acknowledge where I have done so, my guess is, you haven't actually read the report and haven't the ability to reply to the posts, in which I answered your challenge.

Most likely all you know is based on misleading statements by other people about the report.

That sounds like projection, given you haven't once offered anything that was not a cut &paste of someone else's opinion on the matter.

That level of knowledge would qualify as ignorance of the report's contents.

I concur, hence your failure to address my posts.

I went through thereport and out of over two hundred agreed statements, only two reference Israel, one references the holocaust and several reference anti-semiticism.

Your point? Not that I believe you went through the report.

Most of the above is merely an affirmation of respect for international laws.

Is it now?

Why that is only 64 a day, not even worth mentioning. Now a police officer is a militant, the guards for a water treatment plant are now militants, is that correct?

Yes and yes. If the police under Hamas control are armed with anti tank munitions. Unlike any other police unit in the world, staffed almost exclusively by military personnel, then yes they are militants. Now, if a "security guard" shoots at an IDF Trooper and is shot in return, yes he is a militant.

This isn't rocket science mhz, but I would believe that to you, mixing a batch of cookies would be considerably difficult.

So you want a population of 1.5 M to have no police officers and the best way to show them how to keep the peace is to kill all their policemen. What a strange little bird you are. Seeany payslips that include 'combat pay'?

More gibberish.

Other than showing Stalin what we are capable of doing to a city full of civilians the purpose of Dresden was what?

To break the will of the German people. And soften the country for invasion. You really should read up on military tactics.

You brag about those those civilian massacres, in the next breath you will condemn civilian deaths caused by Germany in the same war.

:lol:

How would you know if war crimes allegations are idiotic?

Because I read the report and offered facts that prove it's bias and erroneous data collection.

You admit you've never read the report.

He does, which makes him more of a man then you.

I'll give you points for being honest, but you can't claim to have an informed opinion about a report you haven't read:

Why not? You do.

Idiotic is believing you know the contents of a report, you've never read.

I concur, hence why you won't address my posts.

Maybe you should read the report too:

Yes you should.

Apparently these people mostly shivered, pissed and crapped themselves. Entire families including children were used as human shields to protect Israeli tanks and artillery. They were also used to protect forward Israeli command posts and sniper positions.

Proof please, other then your precious report.

 

[ironsides]

I suggest people read the Goldstone report and judge Israel for themselves.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf

Anyone who supports Israel's actions is either callous or ignorant:

These reports may be all well and good, they do keep UN employees doing something. When is the UN going to get back to the Middle East and and keep the two warring parties apart. (peotect the civilians they hold so dear) It is their reports to enforce, if they have the strength of their convictions. All they do is write anti Israeli reports and expect who to listen? Sure they sometimes put themselves between the adversaries, but as soon as either side starts shooting they bug out. A policeman must be ready to put his life on the line once in a while or what good is he.


PS: I still think the "Cast Lead" report was pre ordained. Now you are calling those who see the truth behind the Goldstone report "callous or ignorant." Why is it you can only see what you want to see, like having blinders on. I agree, the Durban Conference was another nothing by the UN, it accomplished nothing either.

 

[MHz]

Look, your fasination with having sex with me, a dead horse and my ass, is getting troublesome. If it doesn't cease, I'll have to report your increasingly bizarre posts as deviant sexual pornography.

Your wish is my command ...... 'poof' ...... bear? ... bear ?? .... bear ????

 

[CDNBear]

Your wish is my command ...... 'poof' ...... bear? ... bear ?? .... bear ????

Your posts are becoming more and more asinine.

This as do many of your posts, is pure dribble, you can't even spell for crying out loud.

 

[MHz]

(in part)
Moreover, it is written in Torah that this small land is a property of the Jewish people ONLY! And it is forbidden to let others live here permanently. It is also written in Books of Nevi'im (Books of the Prophets) that we were dismissed because we did not achieve this divine order! The Jewish people were dismissed and stayed outside their homeland for 2000 years. Now and after we have returned back to the land of Israel, as we were promised by Prophets; it is time for the Israeli people to achieve this divine order. So, we ask you to leave the land of Israel!!!
We say that in the point view of religion and to guarantee peace in Israel! We explain to you all the holy speech in both Qura'an and Torah. We think that when you understand that we do not hate you nor do we want to fight you because of your belief in Islam, you will come to understand the reason behind our determine to achieve the divine order! As Islam says, " There is no god but Allah. "
Here is the divine order. God told Moses:
Torah, 33 . 56-50
God talked to Moses on Moab regarding Jordan and Jericho saying:
Tell people of Israel that you will pass Jordan to the land of Canaanites.
So, you will dismiss all the inhabitants from there, will vanish all their statues and you will control all their heights.
You will own the land and live there because I gave you the land to possess and to divide it by lot regarding your tribes.
You should give more for the big tribes than the small tribes.
And if you did not dismiss the inhabitants, they would be thorns in your eyes and bodies and they would annoy you in the land you live on
And I will punish you the same way I wanted to punish them.
After you see the divine speech and because Islam is a religion of morals, and to avoid the Jews to possess another land, you must have no objection!! You have wide countries to live in!!! You must understand that we achieve the order written in Torah. Because it is not easy to leave millions of people without financial support, we suggest you to negotiate with "State of Israel" (which embodies the promise of prophets) to get economic aids to live wherever else!!!!
When we and you obey God, then we can live peacefully. We, you, our grandsons and your grandsons for a long time!!
As prophet Ichaaih said, " No nation holds the sword on the face of another nation and they no longer learn about war."
Regard the holiness of these pages. (End of the publication!)
Palestine Think Tank Documents Features Israel Newswire Palestine Religion Somoud: Arab Voices of Resistance Zionism Shadi Nassar – A Very Dangerous Racial Israeli Publication in Jerusalem! ???????? , English and French

I wonder what page of a peace process this will appear on?

 

[CDNBear]

I wonder when you'll stop parroting.

I wonder when eao will acknowledge I took up his challenge and soundly thumped his beloved report...

 

[earth_as_one]

The report is balanced and objective. Justice Goldstone's team reported what they saw:

...Israel

1. Impact on civilians of rocket and mortar attacks by Palestinian
armed groups on southern Israel
103. Palestinian armed groups have launched about 8000 rockets and mortars into southern
Israel since 2001 (chap. XXIV). While communities such as Sderot and Nir Am kibbutz have
been within the range of rocket and mortar fire since the beginning, the range of rocket fire
increased to nearly 40 kilometres from the Gaza border, encompassing towns as far north as
Ashdod, during the Israeli military operations in Gaza.
104. Between 18 June 2008 and 18 January 2009, rockets fired by Palestinian armed groups in
Gaza have killed three civilians inside Israel and two civilians in Gaza when a rocket landed
short of the border on 26 December 2008. Reportedly, over 1000 civilians inside Israel were
physically injured as a result of rocket and mortar attacks, 918 of whom were injured during the
time of the Israeli military operations in Gaza.
105. The Mission has taken particular note of the high level of psychological trauma suffered
by the civilian population inside Israel. Data gathered by an Israeli organization in October 2007
found that 28.4 per cent of adults and 72–94 per cent of children in Sderot suffered from posttraumatic
stress disorder. During the military operations in Gaza 1596 people were reportedly
treated for stress-related injuries while afterwards over 500 people were treated.
106. Rockets and mortars have damaged houses, schools and cars in southern Israel. On 5
March 2009, a rocket struck a synagogue in Netivot. The rocket and mortar fire has adversely
affected the right to education of children and adults living in southern Israel....
...
eao: Both sides have committed war crimes

...
43. The Mission investigated 11 incidents in which the Israeli armed forces launched direct
attacks against civilians with lethal outcome (chap. XI). The facts in all bar one of the attacks
indicate no justifiable military objective. The first two are attacks on houses in the al-Samouni
neighbourhood south of Gaza City, including the shelling of a house in which Palestinian
civilians had been forced to assemble by the Israeli armed forces. The following group of seven
incidents concern the shooting of civilians while they were trying to leave their homes to walk to
a safer place, waving white flags and, in some of the cases, following an injunction from the
Israeli forces to do so. The facts gathered by the Mission indicate that all the attacks occurred
under circumstances in which the Israeli armed forces were in control of the area and had
previously entered into contact with or had at least observed the persons they subsequently
attacked, so that they must have been aware of their civilian status. In the majority of these
incidents, the consequences of the Israeli attacks against civilians were aggravated by their
subsequent refusal to allow the evacuation of the wounded or to permit access to ambulances...

...
48. Based on its investigation of incidents involving the use of certain weapons such as white
phosphorous and flechette missiles, the Mission, while accepting that white phosphorous is not at
this stage proscribed under international law, finds that the Israeli armed forces were
systematically reckless in determining its use in built-up areas. Moreover, doctors who treated
patients with white phosphorous wounds spoke about the severity and sometimes untreatable
nature of the burns caused by the substance. The Mission believes that serious consideration
should be given to banning the use of white phosphorous in built-up areas. As to flechettes, the
Mission notes that they are an area weapon incapable of discriminating between objectives after
detonation. They are, therefore, particularly unsuitable for use in urban settings where there is
reason to believe civilians may be present...

...
520. On 15 January the UNRWA compound in Tal el-Hawa (Gaza City) was seriously
damaged when it was struck by white phosphorous. Between 600 and 700 civilians were
sheltering there at the time and were put in grave danger. The same day the nearby al-Quds
hospital was struck directly by a number of missiles, including white phosphorous shells, again
putting staff and patients in great danger (see sect. C below).
521. The day after the UNRWA compound was hit, John Ging repeated that what had
happened there had happened throughout Gaza. He said that the United Nations and the civilian
population were “all in the same boat” and that nobody could be said to be safe in Gaza.360
(c) The inference that those who did not go to the city centres must be combatants
522. The warning to go to city centres came at the start of the ground invasion. In the Mission’s
view it was unreasonable to assume, in the circumstances, that civilians would indeed leave their
homes. As a consequence, the conclusion that allegedly formed part of the logic of soldiers on
the ground that those who had stayed put had to be combatants was wholly unwarranted.361
There are many reasons why people may not have responded. In several cases the Mission heard
from witnesses about people who were physically disabled, too frail or deaf so that it was
difficult or impossible to respond to the warning. In other cases, as outlined above, civilians who
could have responded may have had legitimate reasons not to do so...

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf

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