Shut Up about Iran
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Of course the anti-war crowd wants bigger numbers...so they make them up. But even if 600K is the right number...your partner just added 400K to that number.
But the reality is that the mysterious and UNMOVING 1 million dead number is baseless and unsubstantiated. I also stress UNMOVING because that has been the number used since 2003.
No shooter has been arrested. Who benefits from the senceless murder? The same people who set her up filmed her murder and rushed it to the net to help foment regimne change and that wasn't the Iranians. CIA, NED, MOSSAD and the limeys.
Hey that is just what the Iranian controlled media reported! Word for word minus the NED.
The Brits, CIA, and Israel are responsible they said.
Off Topic:
Iraq body count only counts civilian deaths directly attibutable to the the US and its allies which were reported by more than one news service. They do not count the 30,000 Iraqi coldiers (mostly conscripts) who died during the first 3 months. They do not count civilian deaths which do not make the news or hundreds of thousands additional deaths resulting from civil war, terrorism, increased crime... In other words, IBC should be considered as an absolute minimum. Let's put it this way, at 92,000-100,000 civilian deaths directly attributable to US and allied forces, that's still pretty shocking.
But if you consider the million or so deaths number I reference as baloney, then you must also consider the million or so deaths attributed to Saddam Hussein as baloney since they used the same methodology to calculate deaths. You can't have it both ways. One system has to be used for calculating deaths attributable to both Bush and Hussein. Applying either system to both war criminals and you get about the same results.
Back to Iran...
You really expect the military of Iran to arrest one of their own personel? lmao Who are the people that "set her up"? I read her bio and it looked to me that a fairly apolitical university student was disgusted with the manipulating of the voting procedure and simply wanted to make an appearance with the rest of the protestors. If someone set her up, wouldn't they have done better by getting her to use a megaphone or a larger sign than everyone else? Why would some gov't sniper pinpoint a person out in the middle of the crowd rather than someone that's at the front and more visible? Don't be silly.
I believe that he thinks that she was shot by the Mossad, CIA, NED, and Britain...respectively.
You know I am not really sure how many people Hussein had killed. Therein lies the difference between us. You would simply pull 1 Million out of the air because it is a neat number whereas I would not offer anything without knowing.
The bottom line is that you do not like the accurate numbers because it is too low for your taste.
Back to Iran...
Oh. I'll offer the same argument, though:
If someone set her up, wouldn't they have done better by getting her to use a megaphone or a larger sign than everyone else? Why would some sniper pinpoint a person out in the middle of the crowd rather than someone that's at the front and more visible?
Here is what the US government said back in 2003:
White House Issues New Report on Saddam's Record of Repression
I'm going to start another thread...
Help them! Help them! Be their saviour as Mossad MI6, CIA agent blog their hearts out about how horrible it is duping the dumb into more blood being poured over pipelines, satellites and green energy.
:roll: Greet, 1 more thread to add to the 50 or so Iraq threads.
Anyway, remind me about why we are talking about Iraq in a thread about Iran, please.
Anyway, remind me about why we are talking about Iraq in a thread about Iran, please.
It is called a diversion.
"Hey...Iranian police are slaughtering their people!"
"Iraq! War For Oil! Bush! Cheney! Gerbils!"
Sorry LG.
I was drawing parallels between the past demonization of Iraq with the present demonization of Iran and how news coverage of these protests are part of efforts to prepare the American public for yet another US led war crime and crime against humanity. I posted some numbers indicating the scale of the carnage in Iraq which ES discounted as BS. So I backed up my numbers with references. Anyway I started another string on that topic where ES and others are free to make a contribution.
What's going on in Iran is serious, but our news is hardly reporting this story objectively. Instead we are being manipulated yet again.
Yes protests are going on. No they aren't as big or as dangerous as the news portrays.
No evidence exists which conclusively proves these elections were fraudulent (or free and fair). Polls taken several weeks before the Iranian elections by objective sources predicted the final official results.
Evidence exists which supports Iranian claims that they are target of a massive misinformation campaign aimed at destabilizing Iran.
I was drawing parallels between the past demonization of Iraq with the present demonization of Iran and how news coverage of these protests are part of efforts to prepare the American public for yet another US led war crime and crime against humanity. I posted some numbers indicating the scale of the carnage in Iraq which ES discounted as BS. So I backed up my numbers with references. Anyway I started another string on that topic where ES and others are free to make a contribution.
What's going on in Iran is serious, but our news is hardly reporting this story objectively. Instead we are being manipulated yet again.
Yes protests are going on. No they aren't as big or as dangerous as the news portrays.
No evidence exists which conclusively proves these elections were fraudulent (or free and fair). Polls taken several weeks before the Iranian elections by objective sources predicted the final official results.
Evidence exists which supports Iranian claims that they are target of a massive misinformation campaign aimed at destabilizing Iran.
Obama is going to invade Iran? :lol::lol::lol:
To which your reference is on an island and the poll was hardly covered.
They are big and that bothers you. The people you adore so much are out murdering their own but because they hate the US like you do it's not that big of a deal.
Of course there is evidence. It was a fraudulent election.
Iran is destabilized and that bothers you. The protests are big, and more importantly ongoing, despite the government's order to stop.
Blame the CIA! Blame Israel! YadaYada. The good people of Iran are hearing none of it.