Then she'd come out a real criminal. Those Y.O. (young offender) Yo bros would get her slinging crack at 61m and tagging the clinic with psalms.
Should this woman be habitually locked up?
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The abortion issue wasn't the reason for posting this but I guewss you can escape the fact people will make it the issue and I guess you can't escape the other fact that there will NEVER be agreement, but I think the ones who want to protect the fetus trump the ones who don't (extenuating circumstances excepted) and convenience isn't one of them. :smile:
And what about the ones who want to take the argument against it to an appropriate place, to try to protect both the fetus and the women? That's the difficult balancing act with being pro-life, not just anti-abortion. I don't think the clinic bombings and attacks are okay. I think they've created necessary laws to protect the lives and the rights of people who need medical care, and attempt to balance them with the free speech of those who are against abortion.
And that is why stand alone clinics are a danger to both patient safety and privacy but hospitals don't usually build in the ghettos.
I agree with you.
Go back early enough its just a sperm and and egg. At the moment of conception, the single cell is a living human being and according to the law, not a person with charter rights. As the cell divides and grows, the human being should gain rights. By the time they can live on their own with minimal aid would seem to be a reasonable threshold to become a fully charter protected person.. So I disagree with the current law too.
This woman isn't exercising her right to free speech. She's using the guise of free speech to interfere in the right of another women to seek a legal medical procedure. It doesn't matter whether its an abortion or treatment for a heart attack... This women should face criminal prosecution if she interferes with the right of others to harassment free health care. If this woman was allowed to subvert the law by getting in people's faces, violating their privacy, verbally abusing them, physically interfering in any way... then she'd be joined by growing numbers who share her opinion. Sufficient harassment would drive abortions back to alleyways and coat hangers, if abortions became impractical/impossible...
I support this lady's right to fight to change the law. But she has no right to deliberately piss on other people's boots. If she steps inside the zone, I support her arrest.
What do you think the beliefs of that unborn were would have been if they were given the chance? Its a safe bet that they would value their lives. "Medical procedure" - No, MURDER.
Put yourself back in the womb.
I feel for the fetus. I feel for the woman. I feel for society. But what other people do is their road to walk. God is the judge not you. If you don't like abortions, don't have one. Your judgment upon any woman who has an abortion goes against the teaching of Jesus. Heaven and hell are within. JC said so. What anybody else said about that is irrelevant nonsense. If you are going to be a christian, follow the teaching of JC, not the rantings of that mad, woman hating, bigot Paul.
I agree we should have rights before we are born. How far would you like to go? I am against giving eggs and sperm full charter rights. A fertilized egg should have more rights than an egg and sperm. A cognitive brain should have more rights than a fertilized egg.
I agree with Colpy regarding designating some definable threshold which grants a human being full charter rights as a person. Only a person can be murdered. Before that threshold, its a legal medical procedure. Don't like it? Fight to change the law, don't harass woman who are probably distressed enough as it is.
I agree with Colpy regarding designating some definable threshold which grants a human being full charter rights as a person. Only a person can be murdered. Before that threshold, its a legal medical procedure. Don't like it? Fight to change the law, don't harass woman who are probably distressed enough as it is.
That's right, God is the judge. And what do you suppose he's going to say to those people on judgement day who had abortions or provided abortions?
And as for me judging women who have abortions, the fact is that I'm not judging anyone. I know and meet Godless people all the time. They've had abortions, stolen, cursed God etc. I'm not allowed to tell them God loves them? That he wants to forgive them? How do you know that me ministering to them isn't what God wants me to do?
"What other people do is their walk". Practice what you preach and don't concern yourself with a little bit of civil disobedience that an elderly woman feels she must do. Worry about yourself; are you ever going to come out of your life of sin and misery? What does God have planned for you?
Also, you show me proof that Paul was a sexist or racist.
You can tell them once. If they tell you to take a hike and you don't listen, then you are harassing them.
Me and my creator are on a first name basis. I do not sin. Sin is a concept to try to control the morally bankrupt. My life is good and I am surrounded by Love. I don't need to preach to others, to have others believe as I do. Accumulating converts is a sure sign that your beliefs are built on quick sand, that you can only find strength in numbers. The path is narrow, my friend. The path of religion is a super highway to nowhere. There is no strength in numbers and proselytizers are just plain annoying. They have a psychotic need to repeat the same nonsense over and over, ad nauseum, in a vain attempt to believe it. I'm pretty sure, having consulted the source, that JC is thoroughly disgusted with the self righteous who have bastardized his teachings. You realize that JC railed against the self righteous in the temple, don't you. Start reading what he said. Paul created a religion about JC, not one based on his teachings. Your repetitive rantings about your beliefs are nothing more than farting in the wind. I've heard them all my life from the pillars of churches who molested their own children, beat their wives and sought out sex with others of both sexes, sometimes with other species. Fundamentalism is a mask worn by the morally bankrupt and sociopaths. If anybody should be concerned about their soul, it is you and your fellow fundamentalists. When the fundy Christians confront the fundy Muslims, blood will flow in rivers.