I'd still be a little uncomfortable with killing it for that reason- it's only a short leap to killing the ones who are parasites after they are born.
Should Canadian tax payers be funding abortion?
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I'd still be a little uncomfortable with killing it for that reason- it's only a short leap to killing the ones who are parasites after they are born.
I find abortion disatastful at the very least when it is used as a form of contraception, however in cases of rape, incest, severe retardation and risk to the mothers life I can support it so therefore I feel it should be covered under our healthcare.
Yes, I think you do need to say more, the issue's not that simple. The real question is, under what circumstances is it permissible to kill another human being? All societies throughout history have accepted that there are such circumstances, there's no absolute right to life and never has been. The debate is about what the limits on it should be.
I can agree to that in principle, within the context of acknowledging that the fetus is alive and as such as the same right to life as any other human being. Within that context, the only time an undeveloped fetus should be removed would to to try to save the mother, always with an attempt at least to save the fetus. I would not classify that as abortion though since though the procedure might be similar, it's done in a different spirit, with the intent of saving both if possible. Even if the fetus dies, the intent would still make it different from an abortion as we normally think of it.
Having posted my objection to multiple posts about 1 topic: I can think of two reasons to abort; to save the mother's life (because it is already well into development) and to save the child from having a short and miserable life such as would happen if the child had anencephaly or 1 of a few other afflictions. And those are the only circumstance I can see where public funding should be applied.
The rest of the kids could be adopted out.
this is another subject, along with capital punishment,
that I am thankful will never be voted on, because as in
capital punishment, the vote would come from an emotional
thought process, and never think of anyone but themselves,
and how they view the situation, 'emotionally', but it is
a very complex situation, with much deeper meanings, but it
seems many people just can't get there.
that I am thankful will never be voted on, because as in
capital punishment, the vote would come from an emotional
thought process, and never think of anyone but themselves,
and how they view the situation, 'emotionally', but it is
a very complex situation, with much deeper meanings, but it
seems many people just can't get there.
Oh, I think there are a few people around that can overcome their emotional outbursts and think clearly and reasonably.
A few but not a majority. It is an emotional issue, not a moral one. When emotions are involved, logic flies out the window.
Sex is great. Sex is great. Sex is....Oops.
In 2005 there were 97,200 or so abortions performed in Canada. Did these people know how a baby is conceived? Did they change their minds? Did their financial situation change to the point where they could no longer afford another baby? Di they just not want a baby in the first place? Contraception must be a mystery. But hey. You don't really need contraception because you can have an abortion. A large number of abortions are a form of birth control. I know there are many cases of genuine need but every abortion ends up getting rid of an unwanted baby.
I can't think of any change in our medical system that is going to help but the number of abortions is going down and that is encouraging.
In 2005 there were 97,200 or so abortions performed in Canada. Did these people know how a baby is conceived? Did they change their minds? Did their financial situation change to the point where they could no longer afford another baby? Di they just not want a baby in the first place? Contraception must be a mystery. But hey. You don't really need contraception because you can have an abortion. A large number of abortions are a form of birth control. I know there are many cases of genuine need but every abortion ends up getting rid of an unwanted baby.
I can't think of any change in our medical system that is going to help but the number of abortions is going down and that is encouraging.
Canada's stats are off according to this group:
Action Life (Ottawa) Inc. - Abortion Statistics Not Accurate in Canada
By far, the most common reason for abortion is a social one (89%), 6% of abortions are for medical reasons, and the other 5% for about 3 other reasons, and that's pretty despicable.
Action Life (Ottawa) Inc. - Abortion Statistics Not Accurate in Canada
- AbortionInCanada.ca .:.
By far, the most common reason for abortion is a social one (89%), 6% of abortions are for medical reasons, and the other 5% for about 3 other reasons, and that's pretty despicable.
I am surprised at you saying that, YJ. Aren't you opposed to all abortions? Then how can you be for the government paying for them, even for first abortion?
Morgantaler is widely respected, admired by a big section of Canadian population, and with good reason.
I have always held that 'unborn' conjures up the metal picture of 'undead' (with Zombies, vampires etc.).
You need not say more. As I have explained many times, that is a religious view, it has no scientific validity.
That is where I would disagree with you, I don't think abortion involves taking a human life. Abortion is not baby killing, as the prolifers maintain.