Senate Report On CIA Torture
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Much as I would like to agree with the anti-Palin sentiment, you are right. Many of us, Canadians as well as Americans were caught up in Obama's eloquent and inspiring oratory. We wanted to believe.
It;s guite fu cking impossible if you read the official dispatch. oh nevermind
Yes you were, not me though, you can check my record of anti Obottomah rhetoric covering the last decade, he's a piece of walking talking sh it.
the good folks at the conservative antiwar.com website are happy that the report has been issued
And would that make you happy, JLM?
I can understand the impulse to exact revenge on one's persecutor. I find it much harder to understand what it must take to torture someone. Shoot them dead - no problem. But torture.........that takes a far different soul and has nothing to do with revenge - more likely a certain pleasure. Personally, I think the Dick would have been one of the best at it.
You can categorize it however you like, I was just putting myself in the shoes of the relatives of the victims, if it was one of my grandchildren or my wife who died on 9/11, you couldn't torture those bastards enough to suit me.
Bush tortured prisoners, and Obama takes no prisoners...not even one. Perhaps that's why American intelligence is so shallow and inaccurate.
Might I suggest a session or two under the (enhanced) examinations to verify those testimonies are true
Mom? Geeze, that bruise still there, looks just like a tat now that the swelling in my eyes has gone down some. Nice hair bow, really sets your dress off.the free-speech hating, despotic, baby-killing, anti-liberty, fake-raped, terrorist loving, kleptomaniacal left.......thank you very much.
right wingers torture and then concern themselves with their public image
The United States tortures people
The United States tortures people. It isn't a matter of rogue agents and rogue government officials, it is systemic. The United States tortures people. One president may order the torturing stopped, but there is nothing to prevent another from ordering it resumed. Those responsible for torturing people are identified but not brought to justice. They are, in fact, given free rein to talk openly about it, to minimize it, to justify it, to continue to lie about it, and to act as if questions or criticism about torturing people is just another partisan political argument. The traditional media, the most powerful mass media, play right along. Some in the mass media all but gloat about it. The United States tortures people. It is known. It is not treated as a crime against humanity. It is normalized. It will happen again.
With their usual impresssive ability to get things exactly backward, leading Republicans decry the release of even the heavily redacted version of a Senate report on what was only a partial investigation of Bush-Cheney era CIA torture. They claim the release will harm national security. Because to these blights on the very concepts of morality and human decency, it's not the crimes that matter, it's that people know about them that matter. Of course, the world already knew about the torture. In this country, the major media may have more important things on which to focus, but to people in the countries from which the tortured once lived, heavily staged "reality" entertainment, or the heavily staged personal lives of pop culture personalities, or the heavily staged patronization by extreme 1 percenters who are famous for being famous somehow is considered less relevant than the fact that people were tortured.
Arrogant D1ck Cheney -
Dick Cheney on CIA torture: 'I'd do it again in a minute'
The former Vice President and one of the chief proponents of America's Bush-regime torture programs was invited to the Sunday shows yesterday to explain once again that screw national and international law, America is exceptional.
“Torture, to me … is an American citizen on his cellphone making a last call to his four young daughters shortly before he burns to death in the upper levels of the Trade Center in New York on 9/11,” Cheney said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “There’s this notion that there’s moral equivalence between what the terrorists did and what we do, and that’s absolutely not true. We were very careful to stop short of torture.”
The report itself simply disproves that one. This isn't a debatable issue. There were doctors available to repair the potential damage done by each "interrogation", and their services were used. There was "waterboarding", which America itself defined as torture up until the very moment the Bush administration wanted to use it. There were "stress positions" that consisted of hanging someone upright by their wrists for 22 hours a day. There were "ice water baths", and "rectal rehydrations", and prisoners being forced to stand upright on their broken bones for two uninterrupted days.
Indeed, Cheney seemed proud of his role in creating the interrogation program.
“I’d do it again in a minute,” he declared.
We should believe him. We should believe that all the other American officials who say they would restart the program would, in fact, restart the program. Our penalty for not mounting a prosecution against the enablers of torture will be a continuation of that program on an administration-by-administration basis, indefinitely.
Leader of the party of Christian and moral values shows his true colors.
Dick Cheney on CIA torture: 'I'd do it again in a minute'
The former Vice President and one of the chief proponents of America's Bush-regime torture programs was invited to the Sunday shows yesterday to explain once again that screw national and international law, America is exceptional.
“Torture, to me … is an American citizen on his cellphone making a last call to his four young daughters shortly before he burns to death in the upper levels of the Trade Center in New York on 9/11,” Cheney said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “There’s this notion that there’s moral equivalence between what the terrorists did and what we do, and that’s absolutely not true. We were very careful to stop short of torture.”
The report itself simply disproves that one. This isn't a debatable issue. There were doctors available to repair the potential damage done by each "interrogation", and their services were used. There was "waterboarding", which America itself defined as torture up until the very moment the Bush administration wanted to use it. There were "stress positions" that consisted of hanging someone upright by their wrists for 22 hours a day. There were "ice water baths", and "rectal rehydrations", and prisoners being forced to stand upright on their broken bones for two uninterrupted days.
Indeed, Cheney seemed proud of his role in creating the interrogation program.
“I’d do it again in a minute,” he declared.
We should believe him. We should believe that all the other American officials who say they would restart the program would, in fact, restart the program. Our penalty for not mounting a prosecution against the enablers of torture will be a continuation of that program on an administration-by-administration basis, indefinitely.
Leader of the party of Christian and moral values shows his true colors.
According to the just-released survey, which doubtless won’t get much play on . . . CBS . . . the number of Americans who think “water boarding and other aggressive interrogation tactics” are “sometimes justified” solidly exceeds those who think they are not justified, 49-36 percent.
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That general lack of empathy is usual at this point in the terminal stages of Imperial decline. This will also be bourne out in the food riots and the ha peace keeping efforts. Torture is a spreadable disease. It would not have happened in the first place unless the public were gauged ready. Canabalism is often overlooked in these decay dicussions.
They have been preparing us for the ultimate end of civilization scenario for years with all these zombie apocalypses TV shows and movies.
The Dick certainly has the courage to back his convictions. Warped, evil, inhumane and immoral as they may be.
Mowich; said:
There's no motive like the profit motive.
Very convenient of him to disregard the rule of law - but at least now the world is no longer afraid of telling the USA to mind its own business and to stop intervening in foreign affairs as Washington DC has lost its illusory moral high ground.
gotta love cloyd:
Cloyd Rivers @CloydRivers
Next time you want to feel sorry for terrorists who were waterboarded, just remember this.
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ck terrorism. Merica.
Cloyd Rivers @CloydRivers Next time you want to feel sorry for terrorists who were waterboarded, just remember this.
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