Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits
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Did they really make a choice? WIth the RUSSIAN MILITARY already controlling the area there was no doubt as to how the "vote" would go. And the rest of Europe does not have the balls to stand up to Putin.
Because Canadians died to give it that right.
You are the only one saying that, perhaps that comes from a constant need to flap your gums even when you don't have anything of value to say. Troll, look it up, you aren't even original.
Russians will be spending their summer at their dachas growing veggies to hopefully survive next winter when they are cut off of food from the rest of the world.
Most of the rest of the world has already supported the Russian salvation of Crimea from the western satanists.
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How very Hitlerish of you. You got a woddie so big you can't even write a sentence properly? ' ... of food by the rest ..'
I didn't evade it, you are just too stupid to understand it. How many posts of your have had no revelance to the issue, Crimea wanted out and they got out, in record time. lol
Did they have an option?
When does the newly formed Crimea plan to pay up for Ukraine's state assets in Crimea?
When does the newly formed Crimea plan to pay up for Ukraine's state assets in Crimea?
The option was to not ask Russia for help, then they could end up like Iran from 1953-1979, without the oil.
EU Takes Aim at Russia Economy as Kiev Plans Crimea Pullout — Naharnet
European leaders were on Thursday to debate biting economic sanctions against Russia for its annexation of Crimea as Ukraine tore up key ties with the Kremlin and drew up plans to evacuate its nationals from the rebel peninsula.
The European Union is under intense pressure to find a credible response to an explosive security crisis on the 28-nation bloc's eastern frontier that NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Wednesday called "the gravest threat to European security and stability since the end of the Cold War."
But the Kremlin has warned repeatedly that it would strike back hard if confronted with a new wave of Western punitive measures that EU nations -- their energy and financial sectors intertwined with Russia's -- would keenly prefer to avoid.
Russian President Vladimir Putin will also find himself on the diplomatic defensive in Moscow when he hosts United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, as the global community almost unanimously views Russia's absorption of the Black Sea region as illegal.
But world anger has done little to halt unchallenged Russian military advances that prompted Kiev's new Western-backed government to acknowledge preparing a Crimean evacuation plan for thousands of its soldiers and families.
It's called packing you bags and going home with your tail between your legs.Better get over there while they will still ley you little minions in. They should have left McCain with an open invitation to visit the Kremlin anytime he wanted.
EU Parliament Head Sees Risk of War in Ukraine Crisis — Naharnet
The EU must send a message to show that Russia will pay a price for its actions and leaders must explain to their people the possible costs involved for them, he added.
Schulz was speaking as EU leaders considered further sanctions against Moscow just after U.S. President Barack Obama hit high-profile Russian political and business figures with fresh measures.
Russia responded in kind only minutes later, imposing sanctions on several close Obama aides and prominent U.S. senators, including Senator John McCain who is noted for his hard line on Moscow.
OMG Russia has to grow food, Europe gets to burn money for heat, the winner is easy to pick in that fight. European industry would stop as would most modes of transportation, all before any real shots are fired.
EU Takes Aim at Russia Economy as Kiev Plans Crimea Pullout — Naharnet
European leaders were on Thursday to debate biting economic sanctions against Russia for its annexation of Crimea as Ukraine tore up key ties with the Kremlin and drew up plans to evacuate its nationals from the rebel peninsula.
The European Union is under intense pressure to find a credible response to an explosive security crisis on the 28-nation bloc's eastern frontier that NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Wednesday called "the gravest threat to European security and stability since the end of the Cold War."
But the Kremlin has warned repeatedly that it would strike back hard if confronted with a new wave of Western punitive measures that EU nations -- their energy and financial sectors intertwined with Russia's -- would keenly prefer to avoid.
Russian President Vladimir Putin will also find himself on the diplomatic defensive in Moscow when he hosts United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, as the global community almost unanimously views Russia's absorption of the Black Sea region as illegal.
But world anger has done little to halt unchallenged Russian military advances that prompted Kiev's new Western-backed government to acknowledge preparing a Crimean evacuation plan for thousands of its soldiers and families.
It's called packing you bags and going home with your tail between your legs.Better get over there while they will still ley you little minions in. They should have left McCain with an open invitation to visit the Kremlin anytime he wanted.
EU Parliament Head Sees Risk of War in Ukraine Crisis — Naharnet
The EU must send a message to show that Russia will pay a price for its actions and leaders must explain to their people the possible costs involved for them, he added.
Schulz was speaking as EU leaders considered further sanctions against Moscow just after U.S. President Barack Obama hit high-profile Russian political and business figures with fresh measures.
Russia responded in kind only minutes later, imposing sanctions on several close Obama aides and prominent U.S. senators, including Senator John McCain who is noted for his hard line on Moscow.
OMG Russia has to grow food, Europe gets to burn money for heat, the winner is easy to pick in that fight. European industry would stop as would most modes of transportation, all before any real shots are fired.
Same way the right wing nuts here see it...... yet no balls to offer up what they would do.----------
Well, which is it?
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#592 Re: Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits
4 days ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
Where does it end? The US will be paying off their meddling wars in Iraq and Afganistan for decades to come while their infrastructure crumbles around them. And former NATO commander Adm. James Stavridis apparently thinks Obama's Administration is handling it just about right.
Russia is bleeding money right now as investors flock away. They've lost about one fifth of the value in their stock market since this political crisis began, and Germany now, even as a major consumer of Russian energy is threatening sanctions. The Russian economy gets one quarter of it's GDP from energy, it's a matter of who can outlast whom right now.
There is no chance of getting Crimea back.Russia is bleeding money right now as investors flock away. They've lost about one fifth of the value in their stock market since this political crisis began, and Germany now, even as a major consumer of Russian energy is threatening sanctions. The Russian economy gets one quarter of it's GDP from energy, it's a matter of who can outlast whom right now.
The west needs to (if asked) provide a "trip wire" force of troops to help the Ukrainians defend the rest of that nation, followed by full membership in the EU and NATO.
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I take it you missed the above post.............................
I guess you must have, considering it was not downvoted. It would been too much to expect you to actually DEBATE the matter.
BTW, I thought Gopher's cartoon was funny too.....that is why I gave him a greenie.
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They were given the option to pull out before a certain time. Military assets become Crimean military assets for the moment or they can all be scuttled and returned as scrap metal rather than being mechanisms that could be used in a war and before they are broken there would be Russian counterparts. The Ukrainian citizens being recalled by Kiev would most likely be able to continue on in Crimea as if nothing happened and doing business in the computer age allows for 4 official languages. It would be like us having French/English/Native Indian as our official languages, about 10 different dialects. Crack the slang text of those 'messages' NSA, lol
I'm also quite sure Ukraine would love to keep the gas flowing to Europe but classified as a Ukrainian export and that product is sold at at 50% more to the rest of Europe and that is a good part of their gross income, the not so noble part is they want to buy at a discount also. The Canadian model of that is electricity from NFLD is sold to Quebec at a cut rate and the Quebec sell it to the US at an inflated price, in violation of the original agreement. The massacre in 1933 was starvation, Ukraine is the breadbasket of the area, for millions in the area to starve it would have be Kiev withholding the food rather than Moscow. With the air bases no longer in operation surveillance of the 'larger port' encircled by Russia behind Crimea would replace the current port that is military based as that would become a port for commercial goods for the local area. Not hard to pick who will be the ones doing the trading. Syria will get into the ICC before she falls and there is $100B in reconstruction contracts to start things off. That is a shy amount compared compared to the humanitarian contracts that see places like the Ukraine send in the generous food allowance and the standard steel insulated containers are converted to the 'tents' that refugees usually live in. That becomes their home until their natural ground has been repaired and then the converted 'trailer' is loaded up and taken to that location along with the rest of the camps trailers. Becoming a refugee that has to leave your country to find safety is a war crime and the one who put that idea into action will get hit hard in the pocket book, that would put the financiers of the rebellion on the hook. $1 fine if you are a citizen and $100B to the foreign Nations which is 5 so far and another 5 that like to hide in the shadows so that is not chump change when it is all added up and it is a 20 year contract and then expect very high unemployment so plan on time for hobbies and travel and arts whatever they are. The wheels are still moving, the cargo is just different. (and we all know who likes to see their products bringing in a return)
Under Admiralty Law the horse is actually a 'boat' as Jordan Maxwell would say. Guess who was the first to breed horse to haul big loads? (have a Budwizer while you think about it)
Well damn... Bravo ... No I haven't seen it till now.Colpy
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#592 Re: Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits
4 days ago
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonWhere does it end? The US will be paying off their meddling wars in Iraq and Afganistan for decades to come while their infrastructure crumbles around them. And former NATO commander Adm. James Stavridis apparently thinks Obama's Administration is handling it just about right.There is no chance of getting Crimea back.
Russia is bleeding money right now as investors flock away. They've lost about one fifth of the value in their stock market since this political crisis began, and Germany now, even as a major consumer of Russian energy is threatening sanctions. The Russian economy gets one quarter of it's GDP from energy, it's a matter of who can outlast whom right now.
The west needs to (if asked) provide a "trip wire" force of troops to help the Ukrainians defend the rest of that nation, followed by full membership in the EU and NATO.
__________________________
"Democracy, immigration, multiculturalism. Pick any two."
James C. Bennett
I take it you missed the above post.............................
I guess you must have, considering it was not downvoted. It would been too much to expect you to actually DEBATE the matter.
BTW, I thought Gopher's cartoon was funny too.....that is why I gave him a greenie.
They were given the option to pull out before a certain time. Military assets become Crimean military assets for the moment or they can all be scuttled and returned as scrap metal rather than being mechanisms that could be used in a war and before they are broken there would be Russian counterparts. The Ukrainian citizens being recalled by Kiev would most likely be able to continue on in Crimea as if nothing happened and doing business in the computer age allows for 4 official languages. It would be like us having French/English/Native Indian as our official languages, about 10 different dialects. Crack the slang text of those 'messages' NSA, lol
I'm also quite sure Ukraine would love to keep the gas flowing to Europe but classified as a Ukrainian export and that product is sold at at 50% more to the rest of Europe and that is a good part of their gross income, the not so noble part is they want to buy at a discount also. The Canadian model of that is electricity from NFLD is sold to Quebec at a cut rate and the Quebec sell it to the US at an inflated price, in violation of the original agreement. The massacre in 1933 was starvation, Ukraine is the breadbasket of the area, for millions in the area to starve it would have be Kiev withholding the food rather than Moscow. With the air bases no longer in operation surveillance of the 'larger port' encircled by Russia behind Crimea would replace the current port that is military based as that would become a port for commercial goods for the local area. Not hard to pick who will be the ones doing the trading. Syria will get into the ICC before she falls and there is $100B in reconstruction contracts to start things off. That is a shy amount compared compared to the humanitarian contracts that see places like the Ukraine send in the generous food allowance and the standard steel insulated containers are converted to the 'tents' that refugees usually live in. That becomes their home until their natural ground has been repaired and then the converted 'trailer' is loaded up and taken to that location along with the rest of the camps trailers. Becoming a refugee that has to leave your country to find safety is a war crime and the one who put that idea into action will get hit hard in the pocket book, that would put the financiers of the rebellion on the hook. $1 fine if you are a citizen and $100B to the foreign Nations which is 5 so far and another 5 that like to hide in the shadows so that is not chump change when it is all added up and it is a 20 year contract and then expect very high unemployment so plan on time for hobbies and travel and arts whatever they are. The wheels are still moving, the cargo is just different. (and we all know who likes to see their products bringing in a return)
Under Admiralty Law the horse is actually a 'boat' as Jordan Maxwell would say. Guess who was the first to breed horse to haul big loads? (have a Budwizer while you think about it)
Well other than being totally wrong about Ukraine and Russia , the picture of the Draft is the first thing you posted we agree on. Never owned draft horses but have had a few quarters and been riding since my dad was able to put me to work on the back of one. Finding common ground is the first step to finding agreement .