Russia demands access to nerve agent in ex-spy case standoff

OpposingDigit

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Why we don’t respect the West anymore
By Margarita Simonyan
March 19, 2018

Essentially, the West should be horrified not because 76% of Russians voted for Putin, but because this elections have demonstrated that 95% of Russia’s population supports conservative-patriotic, communist and nationalist ideas. That means that liberal ideas are barely surviving among measly 5% of population.

And that’s your fault, my Western friends. It was you who pushed us into “Russians never surrender” mode.

I’ve been telling you for a long time to find normal advisers on Russia. Sack all those parasites. With their short-sighted sanctions, heartless humiliation of our athletes (including athletes with disabilities ), with their “skripals” and ostentatious disregard of the most basic liberal values, like a presumption of innocence, that they manage to hypocritically combined with forcible imposition of ultra-liberal ideas in their own countries, their epileptic mass hysteria, causing in a healthy person a sigh of relief that he lives in Russia, and not in Hollywood, with their post-electoral mess in the United States, in Germany, and in the Brexit-zone; with their attacks on RT, which they cannot forgive for taking advantage of the freedom of speech and showing to the world how to use it, and it turned out that the freedom of speech never was intended to be used for good, but was invented as an object of beauty, like some sort of crystal mop that shines from afar, but is not suitable to clean your stables, with all your injustice and cruelty, inquisitorial hypocrisy and lies you forced us to stop respecting you. You and your so called “values.”

We don’t want to live like you live, anymore. For fifty years, secretly and openly, we wanted to live like you, but not any longer.

We have no more respect for you, and for those amongst us that you support, and for all those people who support you. That’s how this 5% came to be.

For that you only have yourself to blame. And also your Western politicians and analysts, newsmakers and scouts.

Our people are capable to forgive a lot. But we don’t forgive arrogance, and no normal nation would.

Your only remaining Empire would be wise to learn history of its allies, all of them are former empires. To learn the ways they lost their empires. Only because of their arrogance.

White man’s burden, my ass (in English in the original text – trans.)

But the only Empire, you have left, ignores history, it doesn’t teach it and refuses to learn it, meaning that it all will end the way it always does, in such cases.

In meantime, you’ve pushed us to rally around your enemy. Immediately, after you declared him an enemy, we united around him.

Before, he was just our President, who could be reelected. Now, he has become our Leader. We won’t let you change this. And it was you, who created this situation.

It was you who imposed an opposition between patriotism and liberalism. Although, they shouldn’t be mutually exclusive notions. This false dilemma, created by you, made us to chose patriotism.

Even though, many of us are really liberals, myself included.

Get cleaned up, now. You don’t have much time left.


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It might help if the UK would stop saying things like "the nasty Russians" and "the Russians were probably responsible" for the nerve agent attack. How about some proof? Not for me. For the world.
 

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There is no question the nerve agent came from Russia, it's the only place it existed, the real question is was the state of Russia involved, was Putin invlived??

My answer would be Yes and Yes. It will be difficult to prove but their are ways so it's a wait and see.

If anyone thinks Russia was not involved then you have to be concerned that Russia had lost its ability to keep this dangerous gas secure.
 

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The Saudis, like all countries, are free to use their armed forces in a way they see fit.

And if it wasn't the British selling the Saudis their accurate, precise, laser-guided weapons then the Saudis would likely buy inaccurate and indiscriminate weapons from the Russians instead.


Where's your proof that the British Government has no proof that the Russians were behind the Soviet-made Novichok (Newcomer) nerve agent attack in Salisbury? Where's your proof that the British Government is lying? I don't think you have any.

Britian has a record of bullshjting several hundred years old. Where is there any proof of these poison victims. Have they been seen since the alleged chemical attack? The British are just vassals of the American Empire anyway, they do what they,re told by Washington, the whole world knows and sees that plainly.


There is no question the nerve agent came from Russia, it's the only place it existed, the real question is was the state of Russia involved, was Putin invlived??

My answer would be Yes and Yes. It will be difficult to prove but their are ways so it's a wait and see.

If anyone thinks Russia was not involved then you have to be concerned that Russia had lost its ability to keep this dangerous gas secure.
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There is no question the nerve agent came from Russia, it's the only place it existed, the real question is was the state of Russia involved, was Putin invlived??

AS as been posted, that is NOT true.
 

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30 Questions That Journalists Should be Asking About the Skripal Case

Stewart Dredge says:
Some more questions:
Why was there no massive police “national manhunt” after the event?
A person or persons armed with “the deadliest nerve agent known to man” had just carried out a botched attempted murder on the streets of an English town and was presumably still at large. He/she/they had failed in their task and was/ were presumably desperate and on the run. Did they still carry the lethal substance? Were they perhaps infected themselves? Were they a danger to other Russian dissidents, police or members of the public?
So why does there appear to have been little or no attempt to identify, find and arrest them? Why no request for anyone witnessing anything suspicious or warnings not to approach anyone behaving strangely?
Also, why are journalists not behaving the way journalists do in such circumstances? Why are Mr Skripals Salisbury friends not being door-stepped to ask about what he is like, whether he ever talks about his past, his family or his hopes for the future. Why are they not asking his neighbours about the sort of people, if any, come and go at his house. He seems to have been a friendly, gregarious chap who often drank with friends at the local pub. What did the bar staff and the other regulars make of him?
And what about the “shouting” incident in the restaurant? One member of staff appears to have reported “He started screaming. He just didn’t look right.’ Where are the media interviews with staff and diners to expand upon this? Why are the UK media and police acting so unlike the UK media and police normally act after such incidents?
I am no conspiracy theorist and I do not believe that any government could successfully “silence” hundreds of police officers and journalists even if one wanted to. It may be that the UK authorities know exactly what happened and are playing a long, waiting game. But the utterances of May, Johnson and co suggest otherwise. It may be that the OPCW will clarify everything but Johnson’s utterances about the substance being proved to be a novichok and that only the Russians can make it are false and demonstrably so the public’s confusion can only continue.
30 Questions That Journalists Should be Asking About the Skripal Case
 

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It's obviously a falseflag lie, just like the reichstag fire and the polish attack on a german radio station were.
 

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It's obviously a falseflag lie, just like the reichstag fire and the polish attack on a german radio station were.

If the Russians are paying you for your efforts, by any chance, you should really be giving them a re-fund.