Right Wing Hypocrites

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Firstly, a clarification; I am not here to mock right-wingers. Christ, that would be dangerous; they swim in schools!
I am here to make a comment, or two, on Obama- you know, the President of the United States.

He is a man of colour; that statement is incontrovertible. Some hate him because of his colour; that position is unconscionable.
That he was preferable to Romney is debatable; however, that is my conviction.
But, that he is a left winger is simply ludicrous! Look at his foreign policy; consider his monetary policy; reflect on the change, or lack of it, his administration has effected during his first term.
 
lone wolf

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Of course this would represent the Left

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I think it represents what COULD be - if winged extremists would just follow their bird brains and flock off
 
damngrumpy

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First of all JLM the first things you mentioned are all political virtues, its really bad after that.
As for Clinton remember his acts were not sex according to him and it was the downfall of
Republican House Leader Newt Gingrich who came to power with the Moral Majority. In the south they do
not consider certain acts as sexual acts.

The real truth is this, if the Republicans have a scandal about money they are forgiven
If the Democrats have a sexual scandal they too are forgiven
The problem here is the Republican had a scandal that either included sex or a situation that
came about as a result of sex, therefore he cannot be forgiven if the theory holds true.
 
JLM

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damngrumpy said:
First of all JLM the first things you mentioned are all political virtues, its really bad after that.
As for Clinton remember his acts were not sex according to him and it was the downfall of
Republican House Leader Newt Gingrich who came to power with the Moral Majority. In the south they do
not consider certain acts as sexual acts.

The real truth is this, if the Republicans have a scandal about money they are forgiven
If the Democrats have a sexual scandal they too are forgiven
The problem here is the Republican had a scandal that either included sex or a situation that
came about as a result of sex, therefore he cannot be forgiven if the theory holds true.
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Yeah, I came to regard Edwards as a real flake for sure.
 
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John McCain wants to cut health insurance benefits for military retirees

Looking to kick retirees out of TRICARE Prime, Sen. McCain told the 12-member Joint Select Committee on Debt Reduction, that restricting working-age retirees and their families from participating in TRICARE Prime would help them avoid spending cuts that would directly impact readiness.

As Tom Philpott recently reported, McCain was once a champion for expanded TRICARE benefits to retirees. But, he now feels eliminating retiree TRICARE Prime is more acceptable than alternatives to cut equipment, training or key weapon programs needed by the current force.

In addition, McCain supports President Obama’s proposal to set a $200 a year enrollment fee for TRICARE for Life, for military beneficiaries age 65 and older.

If with only TRICARE Standard, retirees would face higher out-of-pockets costs, annual deductibles and cost-sharing requirements. Under TRICARE Standard out-of-pocket costs can’t exceed an annual catastrophic cap. But according to Philpott, the CBO suggests raising that cap of $3000 a year per family to $7500.

In addition the CBO predicts that the number of working-age military retirees using TRICARE would drop form 71 percent to 35 percent they were denied access to TRICARE Prime. The CBO also assumes that retirees would switch to their employer-provided health care option.


Read more: http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2011/11/plans-to-take-tricare-prime-from-retirees/#ixzz2N8YtPcyl
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I tend to be a Social Conservative, and I absolutely agree that this man is a hypocrite.

I could "forgive" one abortion, when he and his wife were very young, but not two of them. I can NOT condone ANY professional sleeping with any of their clients. NEVER, EVER, there simply is no excuse for this kind of immoral and unethical conduct.

BUT, I also do not label all conservatives as being hypocrites, as the vast majority of them are not. Just as the vast majority of Liberals are not hypocrites.

Far too often, we tend to label ALL for the transgressions of the one.
 
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There are a number of politicians who love to hitch their wagon to popular values (in their area or representation) and he is just chumming for votes. Job #1 after the election win is go out and start campaigning for the next election. Some use money, he is using religion. But look at where he is at. The Bible Belt. If he were from Dearborn, MI he'd try to claim ancestry to Henry Ford.
 
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Hypocrisy is no respecter of parties this is true however, professing God has forgiven you
without proof is another matter, We don't know that God has done any such thing.
If in his own mind he was sincere about being sorry and changed his ways that might in
fact constitute forgiveness. In addition to his forgiveness, He must prove God has
forgiven, no not a letter from God but a clear signal of change in his life.
Then again what is they say about leopards and spots?
 
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Facebook question from a Bismark, North Dakota resident to his congressman started off rockily yesterday, when the congressman dismissed a religious argument opposed to cuts in the federal food stamp program with a religious quote.

“2 Thessalonians 3:10 English Standard Version (ESV) 10 For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat,” Congressman Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) posted in reply Friday afternoon to an inquiry from Kevin Tengesdal, a Bismark-based actor and activist.

House Republicans narrowly passed deep cuts to the food stamp program Thursday, despite opposition from the Senate and a veto threat from President Obama. In a op-ed published on his office webpage Friday, Cramer railed against exemptions to the work requirement for food stamps, arguing that “We can generate $20 billion in savings by ending these waivers while encouraging able-bodied people to work … When did America become a country where working for benefits is no longer noble?”

Ironically, Cramer’s North Dakota district received $10.4 billion in agricultural subsidies from the U.S. Department of Agriculture from 2005 to 2012 — the single largest recipient of farm subsidies in the nation.

Nor is he the first to misuse this quote. Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-TN) also cited 2 Thessalonians to explain his support for cuts to nutrition support


But while 2 Thessalonians is a convenient tool for those who want to justify ignoring the poor, Fincher’s lukewarm Biblical argument doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

As many religious bloggers have already pointed out, the author of 2 Thessalonians was actually referring to ancient Christians who had stopped working in anticipation of Jesus’ Second Coming. The verse is concerned with correcting a theological misunderstanding (i.e., don’t just wait around for Jesus, live an active faith), not passing judgement on the poor.

Worse still, Fincher’s use of the Bible to defend the slashing of food stamps isn’t just bad theology, it’s also bad policy.

Undergirding Fincher’s sloppy exegesis is an old conservative fiction that people who rely on food stamps are lazy parasites who mooch off the government and refuse to work. In reality, most of the country’s 47 million food stamp recipients are children or the elderly, and many are employed. A 2012 report from the USDA found that 45 percent of SNAP recipients were under 18 years of age, nearly 9 percent were age 60 or older, and more than 40 percent lived in households with earnings.

Fincher’s misguided Bible-thumping ignores the plight of America’s 8.9 million “working poor.” This massive group includes the thousands of participants from the recent fast food and retail workers strikes, people who, despite working full-time 40 hours a week for booming industries, often only make around $7.25 an hour, or $15,000 a year. That’s far below the federal poverty threshold of $23,550 for a family of four and leaves many working families with no choice but to apply for food stamps just to feed their loved ones.

The strikers, who are consistently backed by droves of religious leaders, are clearly willing to work, yet lawmakers like Fincher (who made his millions with the help of government farm subsidies) stand poised to deny them access to the food they need by decimating funding for SNAP.

Fincher’s misuse of scripture is also a slight to disabled Americans who rely on SNAP to stay afloat. Americans with disabilities, many of whom are elderly or military veterans, are burdened with any number of maladies that make full-time work difficult, if not impossible. Far from encouraging freeloading behavior, food stamps and programs like Meals on Wheels help us honor our national commitment — and, for many Americans, a religious duty — to assist our fellow citizens when they need us most.

Congressman's Misuse Of Bible Verse Belies Bad Theology And Ideology On Food Stamps
 
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