Religion and politics a bad mix!

[Socrates the Greek]

When people vote for a Government do they vote for religion first or political platform ?

When a population of 20 million people vote for a political platform, and all 20 Million do not practice the same faith as the elected Government, is it a conflict of interest on behalf of the elected Government to impose laws based on deep religious fundamentals that do not represent voters of other faiths?

Christianity and Conservativism is currently criticized by many who feel that Religion and Politics must not be bundled together. Yet we see many elected officials of the right to abuse their power thus imposing laws rules and regulations that offend other faiths.

Christianity and Conservatism : Natural Allies The Cornerstone Group


Have We “Polluted” Christianity with Conservatism (3) | Gary Trobee's Blog


Christianity vs Conservatism

 

[DaSleeper]

Both parties use Religion when it is to their advantage....
Example........

YouTube - Radical Lefty Pelosi Wants Church to Preach Amnesty

 

[darkbeaver]

Politics without religion is like odorless dung, impossible. If you like absolute rule and servile subjugation it's the perfect mix, tried and true perfected governance for longer than any of us can remember and that is why it's still popular, it works, we just don't remember history.

 

[AnnaG]

Religion and politics a bad mix!


Ya think?

 

[darkbeaver]

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective, if you want to remain rich and powerful you will have to cultivate and crossbreed both employments for the most efficient mixture of benevolent authority over the state you're exploiting. Typically normal money has been accepted by both agencies in the past and that results in state sanctioned and approved spiritual maintenance which intern spawns church sanctioned and approved secular maintenance and the wealth flows out unimpeded by discussion which would be counterproductive to good milking practice. So it's the old strong hairy arms of the protecting state and the warm holy hug of the guiding light of god whatisname. Every possible contingency can be more than adequetly met by seizing these two institutions where they exist or building new ad hoc units if they don't.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Well, since politicians are people, and people have beliefs, it's pretty hard to separate politics and religion, people's attitudes and decisions will be affected by those beliefs. And I wouldn't want to, conscience is presumably a guide to ethical behaviour. That isn't really much of a danger. The real danger is vesting political and religious authority in the same people and institutions. A common feature of religious belief is a claim to be absolutely correct about certain things based on divine authority. It's a short and easy step from there to thinking you have both a right and a duty to interfere in the lives of people who disagree with you. That's a prescription for tyranny.

 

[CDNBear]

When people vote for a Government do they vote for religion first or political platform ?

Platform, here.

When a population of 20 million people vote for a political platform, and all 20 Million do not practice the same faith as the elected Government, is it a conflict of interest on behalf of the elected Government to impose laws based on deep religious fundamentals that do not represent voters of other faiths?

Of course, which is why our Gov't doesn't do that. It's contrary to the Charter.

Christianity and Conservativism is currently criticized by many who feel that Religion and Politics must not be bundled together. Yet we see many elected officials of the right to abuse their power thus imposing laws rules and regulations that offend other faiths.

What's your position on the anti Jewish bigotry levied at Rae's wife by his fellow LPoC members?

 

[AnnaG]

The real danger is vesting political and religious authority in the same people and institutions. A common feature of religious belief is a claim to be absolutely correct about certain things based on divine authority. It's a short and easy step from there to thinking you have both a right and a duty to interfere in the lives of people who disagree with you. That's a prescription for tyranny.

That's about it in a nutshell.

 

[CDNBear]

That's about it in a nutshell.

If that's in the nut shell, I know where you can find the nut, lol.

 

[darkbeaver]

Well, since politicians are people, and people have beliefs, it's pretty hard to separate politics and religion, people's attitudes and decisions will be affected by those beliefs. And I wouldn't want to, conscience is presumably a guide to ethical behaviour. That isn't really much of a danger. The real danger is vesting political and religious authority in the same people and institutions. A common feature of religious belief is a claim to be absolutely correct about certain things based on divine authority. It's a short and easy step from there to thinking you have both a right and a duty to interfere in the lives of people who disagree with you. That's a prescription for tyranny.

Right, exactly, tyranny, the best possible money making situation. If it's such a bad mix why is it universally applied? Simply because the applicant and the applicator are two diametricly contentious forces.

 

[Ron in Regina]

You know, when a thread is actually about the intersection of Religion and
Politics (like this one), that's cool....

....but when it's dragged out constantly as a sidetrack to derail a Thread
that is on either Religion or Politics or neither of the two...Ugh...it just
makes me want to figuratively punt their Junk right through the uprights.

 

[eh1eh]

I think the state should be run by by personal belief system and all who disagree should be killed right after all the religious people.

 

[DaSleeper]

Politics and religion.................


YouTube - 10 Questions: Religion in America

 

[CDNBear]

Here's a wrench...

In the 1988 election, Liberals received half of their support from Catholics. And in 1988, about half of regular church-going Catholics said that abortion should be permitted following medical consultation. At this time, Catholics mirrored the opinion of all Canadian respondents.
It may be that the Canadian Catholic community is disassociated from many of the socially conservative pronouncements from the Vatican.
During the 2004 federal election, Catholic support for the Liberal Party was still strong (43%) and Conservatives held significant Protestant support (49%).
When the question of same-sex marriage was asked of Canada's various religious denominations, a majority of Protestants (68%) were opposed, while Catholics were evenly split: 50 per cent opposed and 50 per cent in favour.
When all voting age Canadians were asked for their opinion on same-sex marriage, 47 per cent were in support and 53 per cent opposed. What is noteworthy about this finding is that it seems Catholics were more aligned with general consensus and did not abide by Catholic Church doctrine, particularly as same-sex marriage is proscribed by the Vatican.

How religion influences Canadian politics | rabble.ca


Catholic Liberals eh, lol. That should mix up some nuts.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

YouTube - The Radical Majority: Conservative Christianity in America 1960s-2000s (Version 2.2 gamma)

YouTube - The Religious Right and the 1992 GOP Convention


YouTube - Why the Christian Right Loves Sarah Palin

 

[In Between Man]

Christianity ain't going anywhere and the kingdom grows daily!

As soon as we get Harper a majority, watch out!

No abortions for anyone!!!!

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Christianity ain't going anywhere and the kingdom grows daily!

As soon as we get Harper a majority, watch out!

No abortions for anyone!!!!

I hope the Canadian people have seen enough wrong in Harper's one man show, and will not allow him the right to a majority. Abortion , gay rights on same sex marriage all will be put away in the name of Christianity or Evangelical belief.

 

[JLM]

When people vote for a Government do they vote for religion first or political platform ?

When a population of 20 million people vote for a political platform, and all 20 Million do not practice the same faith as the elected Government, is it a conflict of interest on behalf of the elected Government to impose laws based on deep religious fundamentals that do not represent voters of other faiths?

Christianity and Conservativism is currently criticized by many who feel that Religion and Politics must not be bundled together. Yet we see many elected officials of the right to abuse their power thus imposing laws rules and regulations that offend other faiths.

Christianity and Conservatism : Natural Allies The Cornerstone Group


Have We “Polluted” Christianity with Conservatism (3) | Gary Trobee's Blog


Christianity vs Conservatism

What is the link that connects religion to politics?

 

[gerryh]

just another excuse by the brain dead to bash Christianity in general. Nothing new.

 

[JLM]

just another excuse by the brain dead to bash Christianity in general. Nothing new.

Ahhhhhhh you read my mind completely, I was struggling for a polite way to say it, hence wound up phasing it as a question, but you phrased it succinctly...........:smile: