Refugee/Migrant Crisis

Serryah

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Kinda hard to do anything about border security when the Republicans refuse.

A hard-won, bipartisan Senate deal dropped Sunday evening, with tons of items on conservatives’ border-policy bucket list, including many that former president Donald Trump had begged for. These include:
  • beefing up border security as a condition for giving any more aid to Ukraine (check!)
  • a tougher and faster asylum-processing system so that those who don’t meet asylum criteria cannot stay and work for years while their cases crawl through the courts (check!)
  • hiring more personnel for Customs and Border Protection as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (1,500 and 1,200, respectively — so, check, check!)
  • huge investments in fentanyl detection technologies and other anti-trafficking enforcement (check!)
  • reviving something like Title 42 restrictions, wherein the president can “shut down” most of the asylum system (though this version doesn’t require a public health pretext and has more severe consequences for border-crossers — so, check-plus, perhaps).
House Republicans should have been pinching themselves in disbelief. Yet within hours of this 370-page bill dropping, House GOP leaders ruled out letting their chamber vote on any of it.

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Considering how much the Dems bent over and let the Republican's fuck them over this issue just to get something done...

They're probably pretty happy that it's just proven the Republicans don't give a damn, that they - as they said OPENLY - "want it as just an issue to run on".
 

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Republicans are allowing 12,000 people in a day?

It has never ever been this bad.

Lookin it up you fucking moron.. Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump all waaaaaaay waaaaaaay less.
 

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Republicans are allowing 12,000 people in a day?

It has never ever been this bad.

Lookin it up you fucking moron.. Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump all waaaaaaay waaaaaaay less.
The number of illegal immigrants in the country has roughly doubled under President Biden. The United States had some 10.2 million illegal immigrants in 2020, and another 10 million have entered during Biden’s presidency. If the 20 million illegal immigrants were all in one state, it would be tied with New York for the fourth most populated state.

And here’s even worse news. If Biden wins a second term in office and there is no serious reform of U.S. immigration and asylum laws — both of which are very real possibilities — we can expect a continuing increase in the rate of immigrants crossing the border illegally.


If some 10 million immigrants have crossed the border in the three years since Biden became president on Jan. 20, 2021, we could be looking at 15 million to 20 million more by the time he leaves office on Jan. 20, 2029.

According to Pew Research, there were only 3.5 million “unauthorized immigrants” — Pew’s term — living in the U.S. in 1990. That number peaked at 12.2 million in 2005, then gradually declined, including during the Trump years, to 10.2 million in 2019.

 

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Where in this bill are they beefing up border security ? How much are they allocating for same ?
 

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Except in the first bullet point.

It's funny that even the Border Patrol Union has sided with this proposal from the Senate.

It's hilarious that the House R's proved that they do not give a damn about the Border really.

It's all BS, a political stunt for them.

And they will NEVER have a proposal THIS good to their side of thinking ever again. Because the Dem's won't agree with it and the Dems will know anything they put forward will be a sham. That this time they gave up almost EVERYTHING they would want just to please the R's and this happens?

Nah, they won't give like this again (though if they do they're fucking idiots.)
 

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It's funny that even the Border Patrol Union has sided with this proposal from the Senate.

It's hilarious that the House R's proved that they do not give a damn about the Border really.

It's all BS, a political stunt for them.

And they will NEVER have a proposal THIS good to their side of thinking ever again. Because the Dem's won't agree with it and the Dems will know anything they put forward will be a sham. That this time they gave up almost EVERYTHING they would want just to please the R's and this happens?

Nah, they won't give like this again (though if they do they're fucking idiots.)

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It's funny that even the Border Patrol Union has sided with this proposal from the Senate.

It's hilarious that the House R's proved that they do not give a damn about the Border really.

It's all BS, a political stunt for them.

And they will NEVER have a proposal THIS good to their side of thinking ever again. Because the Dem's won't agree with it and the Dems will know anything they put forward will be a sham. That this time they gave up almost EVERYTHING they would want just to please the R's and this happens?

Nah, they won't give like this again (though if they do they're fucking idiots.)
Well, let me say this: The 118B so-called "border" Bill isn't a "border bill" at all - it's $60B to Ukraine & 14B to Israel with a measly $20B for the border - not to stop illegals from coming in but to "Process" them more rapidly so I'd say it's good that the Bill didn't or won't be passed.

What is needed is a separate Bill for 1) Ukraine 2) Israel & 3) to STOP illegal immigration & each can be voted on on its own merit. That would be the "democratic" way of doing this crap but it hasn't been for decades! Just lump a bunch of crap together (pork barrel?) & expect it to be passed without anyone actually knowing what's in the bloody bill. Didn't Pelosi say it when it came to Obama's healthcare - pass the Bill then you can see what's in it? How stupid are Americans to put up with this garbage?

You can blame Republicans and/or Democrats but BOTH are harming the country which may never recover from the dishonesty portrayed by both Parties.
 
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petros

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Well, let me say this: The 118B so-called "border" Bill isn't a "border bill" at all - it's $60B to Ukraine & 14B to Israel with a measly $20B for the border - not to stop illegals from coming in but to "Process" them more rapidly so I'd say it's good that the Bill didn't or won't be passed.

What is needed is a separate Bill for 1) Ukraine 2) Israel & 3) to STOP illegal immigration & each can be voted on on its own merit. That would be the "democratic" way of doing this crap but it hasn't been for decades! Just lump a bunch of crap together (pork barrel?) & expect it to be passed without anyone actually knowing what's in the bloody bill. Didn't Pelosi say it when it came to Obama's healthcare - pass the Bill then you can see what's in it? How stupid are Americans to put up with this garbage?

You can blame Republicans and/or Democrats but BOTH are harming the country which may never recover from the dishonesty portrayed by both Parties.
They'll all be offered PR by joining the military or drafted.

Shit is coming fast with NATO and Huilo Putin.
 

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Brawl between migrants and police in New York’s Times Square touches off backlash
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Jake Offenhartz
Published Feb 05, 2024 • 4 minute read
This image taken from video provided by the New York City Police Department shows police officers confronting a group near New York's Times Square, Jan. 27, 2024, bringing a man in a bright yellow coat down to the sidewalk and the chaotic scene that unfolds as at least half a dozen bystanders are seen kicking at the officers, then trying to pry them off the man.
This image taken from video provided by the New York City Police Department shows police officers confronting a group near New York's Times Square, Jan. 27, 2024, bringing a man in a bright yellow coat down to the sidewalk and the chaotic scene that unfolds as at least half a dozen bystanders are seen kicking at the officers, then trying to pry them off the man. PHOTO BY NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT VIA AP /The Associated Press
NEW YORK — A video showing a group of migrants brawling with police in Times Square has touched off a political furor and renewed debate over a long-standing New York City policy that limits cooperation between local police and federal immigration authorities.


The surveillance footage, recorded Jan. 27 outside a Manhattan homeless shelter, shows several men kicking officers on a sidewalk and trying to pry them off a man police had taken to the ground. Police have arrested seven people in connection with the attack, though prosecutors dropped charges against one person they say may not have been involved.


Nobody was seriously hurt, but the video of officers being pummeled has prompted waves of public outrage. Some of that fury has been directed at prosecutors and the court system after several of those arrested were freed from jail while awaiting trial.

Increasingly, New York City officials have aimed dire rhetoric at the tens of thousands of asylum seekers the city has put up in shelters and hotels over the past year. Some of the comments have dismayed immigration advocates, who say they are stirring up hatred over the actions of a few bad apples.


“A wave of migrant crime has washed over our city,” Police Commissioner Edward Caban said at a news conference Monday about a Venezuelan man being sought in a series of cell phone robberies. He likened the suspect’s accomplices to “ghost criminals,” claiming they had come to New York “with no criminal history, no photos, no social media.”

The NYPD released a video showing Mayor Eric Adams joining officers as they raided a Bronx apartment building in connection with that investigation Monday morning. The video included ominous music and an officer warning of “migrants preying on vulnerable New Yorkers,” while footage plays of a woman being dragged behind a scooter during a purse-snatching.

Pressed for details to back up the claim of a crime wave, however, police and city officials said they couldn’t provide them because the city doesn’t track crime trends by the nationality of suspects.


Most categories of crime are down since a surge of migrant arrivals began 18 months ago.

Alexa Aviles, the head of the City Council’s committee on immigration, accused the mayor and the NYPD of playing into “the same old Trumpian fear mongering and the systematic scapegoating of a diverse and vulnerable group of people.”

“I thought ‘crime was down?”‘ Aviles added. “Where is the evidence to support these claims?”

In press appearances Monday, Adams noted the vast majority of the nearly 175,000 migrants who have come to the city are law abiding. He said it would be wrong for “any New Yorker to look at people trying to fulfil the next step on the American Dream as criminal.”

But in recent days, Adams has also shown a willingness to pull back on a set of laws that often block the city from cooperating with federal immigration enforcement efforts.


Describing the Times Square incident as “an attack on the foundation of our symbol of safety,” Adams, a moderate Democrat and former police captain, called on the City Council to consider “if there should be more collaboration” with federal immigration officials. He did not elaborate.

Since 2014, the police department and city jails have been barred from holding people in custody on behalf of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement unless they have been convicted of certain violent crimes and a judge has issued a warrant for their removal.

Federal immigration authorities don’t have a presence in the city’s jail system. City resources aren’t supposed to be used to assist in the detention and deportation process.


Experts said it wasn’t immediately clear what role, if any, the city’s so-called “sanctuary” policies may have had in the cases of the men accused of assaulting officers in Times Square.

An ICE spokesperson did not respond to an emailed question about whether they were seeking to detain the individuals involved in the brawl.

Though police officials have expressed outrage that five of the six suspects arrested were released, the city’s immigration policies have no bearing on the decisions of prosecutors and judges who set bail.

Responding to public criticism, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has said his office was still working to ensure that all the men were correctly identified. One of the men arrested was not prosecuted because of insufficient evidence of his involvement, a spokesperson for Bragg said.


He said additional people involved in the attack would likely be arrested in coming days. Prosecutors are to present evidence to a grand jury starting Tuesday.

Proponents of the city’s sanctuary laws say they bolster public safety by ensuring immigrant communities are not afraid of interacting with the legal system — not only as criminal defendants, but as witnesses or potential victims of crimes.

A decade ago, New York City held up to 3,000 people in custody each year for the purpose of helping federal immigration authorities initiate detention and deportation proceedings. In some cases, immigration attorneys said, police would proactively alert federal authorities immediately after making an arrest — long before a conviction was secured.


At a news conference Monday alongside conservative elected officials, Kenneth Genalo, the field office director in New York for ICE, said the city’s lack of cooperation had made it harder to deport criminals.

“We’re no longer contacted,” he said. “There are hundreds of people being arrested throughout the city, and if we can’t determine which ones are the most violent, we have to find out unfortunately through the media.”

Murad Awawheh, the executive director of the Immigration Coalition, warned that the mayor’s comments about rolling back sanctuary protections could have a chilling effect among the city’s more than half-million undocumented immigrants.

“Why are they fanning the flames now?” Awawdeh said. “It seems he’s trying to get people to look away from the bigger issues, which is his lack of management of the city at the moment.”
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Migrants arrested in Phoenix allegedly attacked New York City cops: Reports
Author of the article:postmedia News
Published Feb 06, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
This image taken from video provided by the New York City Police Department shows officers confronting a group near New York's Times Square, Jan. 27, 2024, bringing a man in a bright yellow coat down to the sidewalk and the chaotic scene that unfolds.
This image taken from video provided by the New York City Police Department shows officers confronting a group near New York's Times Square, Jan. 27, 2024, bringing a man in a bright yellow coat down to the sidewalk and the chaotic scene that unfolds. PHOTO BY NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT /THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Migrants arrested in Arizona this week are allegedly the same suspects who recently attacked New York City police officers, according to American authorities.


According to Fox News, Immigration and Customs Enforcement sources said some of the men allegedly involved in the beating last week were apprehended at a Phoenix bus station on Monday.


Law enforcement sources have also confirmed to the New York Post that the migrants were arrested, and they’re allegedly connected to the cop beatings.

The accused migrants left jail without bail. Their next court date was scheduled for March 4.

The attack, which was caught on camera Jan. 27 near Times Square, shows officers trying to arrest a man wearing a bright yellow jacket before a mob begins beating the cops.



It is unclear which of the suspects arrested were involved in the attack. None of their identities were released.

Source provided the same image to Fox News and the Post of three people in handcuffs and sitting on the ground.



It is believed that four of the migrants allegedly involved in the beating — Darwin Andres Gomez, 19, Kelvin Servita Arocha, 19, Wilson Juarez, 21, and Yorman Reveron, 24 — were heading to California from New York City after they were released without bail.

Three others, Jhoan Boada, 22, Jandry Barros, 21, and Yohenry Brito, 24, were also arrested.

According to WNBC in New York, investigators believe at least 13 people were involved in the attack.

“Our office continues to work with law enforcement to bring everyone responsible for these heinous attacks to justice,” Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said in a weekend statement.

“It is clear from video and other evidence that some of the most culpable individuals have not yet been identified or arrested, and we are working hand in hand with the NYPD to find and hold them accountable for their despicable acts.”


On Friday, Democratic New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said at a press conference that New York City prosecutors should have argued to keep the suspects behind bars.

“Any time there is an assault on a police officer, which is a very serious offence, bail should be sought,” she said.

A day earlier, Hochul called for their deportation.

“Get them all and send them back. You don’t touch our police officers. You don’t touch anyone.”
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Woman dragged down N.Y.C. street amid 'wave of migrant crime'
Author of the article:Denette Wilford
Published Feb 06, 2024 • 2 minute read
Screenshot of woman being dragged by two migrant criminals on moped in New York City.
A screenshot of a woman being dragged by two migrants on a moped in New York City. PHOTO BY NYPD NEWS /X
Members of a migrant crime gang responsible for dozens of attacks and grand larcenies were caught on video grabbing a woman’s purse and dragging her down a New York City street and into a pole before speeding off.


The incident took place in December, but the video went viral on Monday when police announced arrests in connection with 62 similar attacks by an organized crime ring.


Two of the men arrested allegedly mugged Irina Panteleeza, 62, outside of a Brooklyn deli on Dec. 28.

Cleyber Andrade, 19, and Juan Uzcatgui, 23, have been charged with grand larceny for stealing a moped, resisting arrest and other offences.

“Most migrants come to N.Y.C. in search of a better life. Sadly, some come to commit crime. Today we made tremendous progress in the largest robbery pattern plaguing our city,” NYPD assistant commissioner Kaz Daughtry said at a news conference.

“Our message is simple: Commit a crime in our city and we will find you and bring you to justice!”



NYPD Commissioner Edward Caban said the two men are part of a “wave of migrant crime” plaguing the city, but as undocumented illegal immigrants with no phones, no social media and sometimes no known names or dates of birth, he likened them to ghosts.

Many of the suspects have only recently arrived in the U.S. and live in migrant shelters, according to cops.

Victor Parra is believed to be the man behind the recent crime wave, but the alleged ringleader is in the wind as the NYPD and U.S. Marshals hunt him down.

“He’s the big target,” NYPD Insp. Nicholas Fiore said at a news conference. “He’s caused a lot of problems in New York City. And hopefully we’ll grab him, we get some headway on this.”

The Venezuelan migrant is believed to have co-ordinated the thefts over social media, allegedly posting what kinds of phones he wanted thieves to steal.


Police said Parra allegedly had a hacker break into the phones and access victims’ financial apps.

Cops also identified six other people connected to the ring: Yan Jimenez, 25, of Manhattan; Anthony Ramos, 21, of Manhattan; Richard Saledo, 21, of the Bronx; Beike Jimenez, 21, of the Bronx; Maria Manaura, 32, of Manhattan; and Samuel Castro, 27, of Queens, the New York Post reported.

All of them were previously arrested on grand larceny counts for activity that sources said was related to the migrant-led robberies, which have been happening since November. All were free without bail ahead of impending court dates, according to the Post.



“You should not be allowed to walk the streets of the city of New York if you are committing any form of criminal behaviour that’s impacting the quality of life of New Yorkers,” Mayor Eric Adams told reporters.

“These people do not have a licence to steal in our city.”
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