Racism - Come on down & Splain yourself Eh.

[lone wolf]

I kind of like the tarring, feathering, and running out of town thing.

Tar makes their legs stick together....

 

[Mowich]

My dear CB, you of all people should have realized that my underlying intent was to get rid of all the GMO tomatoes and anit-biotic filled eggs!! I am shocked that you didn't catch on! ROFLMAO! :lol:

 

[countryboy]

Tar makes their legs stick together....

But it's costly leaves a carbon footprint too! Are they worth it? The feathers - being a renewable resource - sound OK though...the idea has merit, in my opinion.

 

[Mowich]

I kind of like the tarring, feathering, and running out of town thing.

Ooooh ya! Forgot about that one. Still, LG, public humiliation where one is forced to stay in one place and be subjected to the scorn of their fellow citizens, IMHO, would be a tad more effective. :lol::lol:

 

[countryboy]

My dear CB, you of all people should have realized that my underlying intent was to get rid of all the GMO tomatoes and anit-biotic filled eggs!! I am shocked that you didn't catch on! ROFLMAO! :lol:

You're right! I should have known you weren't talking about REAL food. Sorry. :notworthy:

 

[L Gilbert]

But it's costly leaves a carbon footprint too! Are they worth it? The feathers - being a renewable resource - sound OK though...the idea has merit, in my opinion.

The tar people used to use was actually tree pitch. That's also a renewable resource.

 

[L Gilbert]

Ooooh ya! Forgot about that one. Still, LG, public humiliation where one is forced to stay in one place and be subjected to the scorn of their fellow citizens, IMHO, would be a tad more effective. :lol::lol:

... than being publicly humiliated and then gotten rid of? Seems to me that getting rid of a problem is the whole idea. lol The embarassment is just for the satisfaction of the townsfolk and may not do anything to cure the perp of doing whatever it was that the townsfolk were on about. lol

 

[countryboy]

The tar people used to use was actually tree pitch. That's also a renewable resource.

Hey great! Another obstacle gone. Thanks!

 

[Mowich]

... than being publicly humiliated and then gotten rid of? Seems to me that getting rid of a problem is the whole idea. lol The embarassment is just for the satisfaction of the townsfolk and may not do anything to cure the perp of doing whatever it was that the townsfolk were on about. lol

It depends on what you mean by 'gotten rid of', LG. Send them down the road to be a problem for another town/village etc. Do away with them altogether as in a bullet to the brain - not on. No, I still think that outing them in public, letting everyone see who the cretin is and then making them live with their shame, hopefully to one day see the light, is a better idea.

But then, as always, it's just my opinion. ;-)

 

[countryboy]

It depends on what you mean by 'gotten rid of', LG. Send them down the road to be a problem for another town/village etc. Do away with them altogether as in a bullet to the brain - not on. No, I still think that outing them in public, letting everyone see who the cretin is and then making them live with their shame, hopefully to one day see the light, is a better idea.

But then, as always, it's just my opinion. ;-)

Don't forget the deterrent value, which something people don't seem to understand or agree with. All I know is, the threat of getting my *ss kicked cured me of my habit of taking Dad's prize cucumbers and pumpkins out of the garden and using them for target practise. (Oh horrors, and with a real gun!) Now here I was, armed with a .22 and worried about the K.I.T.A. penalty...that's deterrent value.

 

[L Gilbert]

It depends on what you mean by 'gotten rid of', LG. Send them down the road to be a problem for another town/village etc. Do away with them altogether as in a bullet to the brain - not on. No, I still think that outing them in public, letting everyone see who the cretin is and then making them live with their shame, hopefully to one day see the light, is a better idea.

But then, as always, it's just my opinion. ;-)

That's assuming no-one's informed the next town that the perp is a pariah. New book out: "How to Become a Hermit" by Tom Tarred Feathered.

 

[karrie]

cool... don't like your neighbour, and they happen to not be the same colour as you, you get your ass run out of town. Sounds like a real utopia. lol.

 

[countryboy]

cool... don't like your neighbour, and they happen to not be the same colour as you, you get your ass run out of town. Sounds like a real utopia. lol.

You're kidding! Would you really do that?

 

[karrie]

I was being sarcastic countryboy. :lol: The idea of running someone out of town for something that our forum can't even all agree on one solid definition of just struck me as funny.

 

[countryboy]

I was being sarcastic countryboy. :lol: The idea of running someone out of town for something that our forum can't even all agree on one solid definition of just struck me as funny.

Karrie, you must laugh a lot when you're around groups of people! It's fairly normal/common for people to seek solutions before a problem is clearly defined. I chalk that up to most people having a strong natural tendency toward helping others. I do it all time...look at a symptom of a problem and try to fix it right now...

It seems the folks are pretty much aware of the negative behaviours relative to racism...I think the definition issue is my fault, as I raised it in the first place. :notworthy:

I was trying to find my way around in the discussion but kept wondering if I was "on the same page" as most...it turned out to be what I consider to be a worthwhile discussion, and still going on.

As far as "running someone out of town" goes, I took that to be an indication that perhaps some type of "action" might be advisable to actually DO something about racism problems, and that is the value I'm getting out of it, personally. I mean, it's very good to talk it through, look at it from all angles, but ultimately, a good plan of action - acceptable to most, if not all - would be quite an accomplishment, wouldn't you agree? Sometimes a little humour (we used to call it "graveyard humour" when trying to make decisions that would affect people's livelihoods) relieves the pressure of pondering a very serious subject.

In getting to that end (trying to decide what to do about racism), a fair amount of "blue sky thinking" (brainstorming) is valuable, but of course, one of the "rules" of brainstorming is to FIRST get all the ideas out on the table, line them all up, and then begin to qualify them as to practicality, workability, etc. Of course, it's not possible to do it that way in a forum like this, but at the same time, wouldn't it be terrific if someone did "lay the golden egg" (come up with a flash of brilliance) that could lead to a solution to racism problems? Certainly worth a shot, I'd think! :canada:

 

[Liberalman]

Liberalman, I may be wrong here but let's be clear - are you saying that racism is a money issue? I note your point on "jealousy", followed by your point on wealth.

If your point is that wealth (jealousy of it) is the main cause of racism, how that relates to say, a white person being prejudiced against dark-skinned people. Unless of course, that white person is a person of lesser means that the dark-skinned people with whom he comes in contact.

Speaking of wealth, no question there is a lot of poverty in the world, some of it in Canada. But when you say "Everybody has to be equal and the wealth has to be spread around so everyone can be equal.", are you convinced that would do the trick and help to eliminate racism?

I see a few problems with that one - first and foremost, how do you convince those with money (in some cases, their hard-earned money) to give it to those without? Are you suggesting legistlation to get that done?

And, if you remove the need for people to work and try to "get ahead", would you not risk building a "society of sloths" (not everyone, of course) because they would not need to seek work, buy food, etc.?

How would you continue to generate wealth if more and more of the population doesn't need to work? Where would the wealth come from?

Of course, I'm making a wild assumption that those who currently do earn money might be tempted to ease off a bit in the "toil and sweat" department if they know a chunk of it is going to be taken away and given to others. (Well, it does actually happen now through our system of taxation, but I suspect you'd have to "kick it up a notch" to get everything equal).

And finally, if everyone had exactly the same amount of wealth around the world, do you really think racism would cease to exist?

Just asking...

I meant wealth as in opportunities.

Your example of a black man resenting a white man maybe because he is barred from the corporate boardroom.

If everyone had access to the same opportunities that the person chooses and is treated the same way then jealousy would not be there and racism would be gone as well

 

[Cliffy]

There would be no more racism if everybody was white (or black or brown). Wait til the aliens get here. Then you will see racism like you ain't never seen before.

 

[countryboy]

I meant wealth as in opportunities.

Your example of a black man resenting a white man maybe because he is barred from the corporate boardroom.

If everyone had access to the same opportunities that the person chooses and is treated the same way then jealousy would not be there and racism would be gone as well

Thank you for the clarification of "wealth"...I was basing my comments on your sentence "Everybody has to be equal and the wealth has to be spread around so everyone can be equal." Excuse me for taking "wealth" to mean "money" - don't know why I did that! :smile:


Can you help me with your second point, "Your example of a black man resenting a white man maybe because he is barred from the corporate boardroom." I may have said that, but where? I'm not sure of the point here. I know there are people of all colors and races on corporate boards around the world, but I'm just not sure what we were discussing relative to your second point above.

Your third point above, "If everyone had access to the same opportunities that the person chooses and is treated the same way then jealousy would not be there and racism would be gone as well"... sounds a little utopian, but maybe I am not sure I understand that one either.

I'm not sure which opportunities you mean here. Could you break that down into some examples? I certainly agree that "access to opportunities" is important, but it's quite a sweeping statement and it would be wrong for me to assume that I know what you're talking about it here. A few examples, please...thanks!

 

[countryboy]

There would be no more racism if everybody was white (or black or brown). Wait til the aliens get here. Then you will see racism like you ain't never seen before.

Oh oh...it sounds like you're assuming that aliens are all one race. Apparently, they come in various colors too. Greys, greens, and so on. I'm not sure if the alien races have any racism issues...perhaps that is limited to us earthlings. If memory serves (from too many trips to Google), the greys are the good guys, and the greens are the bad ones. According to humans. Which makes that interpretation questionable, at best.

 

[Mowich]

There would be no more racism if everybody was white (or black or brown). Wait til the aliens get here. Then you will see racism like you ain't never seen before.

Cliffy, I can see that you don't watch 'V', doncha know that the aliens look just like us???? :lol::lol::lol: