You've heard me bash zealots on both sides of the aisle to know that I think picking a tem, no matter which team, over your nation is wrong.
Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
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We can certainly hear both sides out, that's only fair, but the nation can't follow two opposing ideologies at the same time.
No it's not. Everyone is "pro-peace", "pro-fairness", "pro-justice" and "pro-freedom". Unfortunately liberals can't clue in that:
- "Pro-peace" means being "anti-bully" (war may be necessary to ensure peace, or that a strong military is a deterrent)
- "Pro-fairness" means you can't rob the rich to help the poor (socialism)
- "Pro-justice" doesn't include denying an unborn child it's God-given right to life
- "Pro-freedom" doesn't mean you can suppress criticism of Muslims or homosexual behavior (for example) under the guise of "hate-speech"
sure it can.
how healthcare, and how corporations run, for example, do not need to follow the same ideology. How a poor state and how a rich state need to be governed, are not the same thing.
One single rigid ideology will never be optimal.
Let's pick one moral issue like abortion. One side says yes, the other no. How can we follow both ideologies at the same time. We can't!
Life is full of decision. each single issue requires a decision. The problem is that Democrats and Republicans have a set script, and try to apply it religiously to all decisions. You can't. Yes, in the end, abortion needs a decision. and one side wins or loses, but that doesn't qualify them to make the rest of the decisions.
What wars since 1991 were justified.
Camel and the eye of the needle comes to mind
I believe in Free Will. Do you?
Inciting hatred is justified? I think not- Religious Fundamentalists as yourself condemn all Muslims based upon Religion and your religious Beliefs- Again I believe in Free Will
Tell me what Jesus spoke about Homosexuality.
Lucky for you most liberals are fair minded enough to permit you to spew your hatred against muslims, homosexuals and women that have a right to determine what happens to their bodies. Liberals also protect your right to belong to whatever whacked out cult you wish.
Did I miss something? Someone FORCE you to have an abortion? Thought not. Yet you are perfectly willing to force your cult dogma on others.
I can agree on that. That no one side is qualified to make all the decisions based on a favorable decision they get on a single issue.
Operation Desert Storm
Afghanistan
Operation Iraqi Freedom
That has nothing to do with socialism. The moral of that parable is to not love money like a "god", not "tax the rich".
Sure, but just because some folks use their free will to commit murder doesn't make it right. Hello!
Allowed would be a more fitting word than justified. Justified would mean those views have merit.
More word play. JUDGMENT of Muslims and their religion isn't "condemnation". To condemn Muslims would be to tell them they're going to hell - no matter what. (Which I won't do because they still have time to convert)
Gladly. He condemned it:
ASK THE PREACHER - Did Jesus Say Anything About Homosexuality? Carl Gallups Explains - YouTube
Also, a heads up. "Tolerance" of homosexual behavior is NOT the same as "acceptance". I'm also wise to that word play, so please don't try it.
No side is entitled to force its views on everybody else either, politics is about compromise, give and take, or should be, and religion has no place in it, church and state must be held separate, it is not in the nature of a church to compromise. Your mention of the unborn child's god given right to life, for instance, is an ideological position based on your beliefs about certain invisible realities and the moral structure of the universe. Not everybody shares them, in fact most people don't, so you're not entitled to require anyone but yourself to live by them.
So you'd agree then that if you ever say anything that isn't precisely 100% correct, I can dismiss everything else you say because you're a liar.
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And by the line of argument the pastor uses, we'd also have to say that Jesus fully supported slavery so we should all be able to have slaves. He nowhere speaks out directly against it, and as the pastor pointed out, he does speak favourably of the Mosaic law, which does support it and even contains rules about how to treat slaves.
Good for him, and so he should.
She really hits the nail with "Bhengazi was an attack on us, not a scandal by us." The vocal right will stop at nothing to create or gain political points, even if it means undermining the USA. Whatever happened to the days when Americans stood by their President? The simple answer is GWB, however he dealt himself a hand that is really unmatched in history. He went from having 100% of world's support in September 2001 to tossing it out the window on his own accord in March 2003.
When US marines were carbombed in Lebanon, Reagan was supported. Heck when Carter was trying diplomacy with Egypt and Israel he was given the respect to make a go of it. George Sr. was backed in Gulf 1 and no one blamed him for Hussein attacking Kuwait. There was journalistic integrity in those days. The onset of Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter, to name a few, have driven a line right through America. You're either 'for us or against us', as GWB said. If that is the only choice, being for or against, then America has really changed.
When US marines were carbombed in Lebanon, Reagan was supported. Heck when Carter was trying diplomacy with Egypt and Israel he was given the respect to make a go of it. George Sr. was backed in Gulf 1 and no one blamed him for Hussein attacking Kuwait. There was journalistic integrity in those days. The onset of Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter, to name a few, have driven a line right through America. You're either 'for us or against us', as GWB said. If that is the only choice, being for or against, then America has really changed.
Strange that people make sense when they just repeat what you already believe in.......8O
True enough. But sometimes they make sense because what they are saying happens to be the truth.
The problem here seems to be a matter of understanding. If assault weapons are already banned then they can't be taken away because no one owns any of them. Or is my interpretation of what renew means in error?
Y'all starting to sound like this......lemming....deflect....deflect
.................................................OBAMA'S GONNA PAY FOR MY GAS... - YouTube
MSNBC Bah....
MSNBC FAILS 01 - Reporters Edit Gun-Toting Protestor - YouTube
MSNBC FAILS 02 - Maddow: "Constitution Doesn't Have A Preamble" - YouTube
MSNBC FAILS 23 - Maddow Mistakes Satire For News - YouTube
MSNBC FAILS 11 - Maddow Makes O'Reilly Look Racist - YouTube
There's more...........but the lemmings won't believe a word of it:-(
MSNBC FAILS 01 - Reporters Edit Gun-Toting Protestor - YouTube
MSNBC FAILS 02 - Maddow: "Constitution Doesn't Have A Preamble" - YouTube
MSNBC FAILS 23 - Maddow Mistakes Satire For News - YouTube
MSNBC FAILS 11 - Maddow Makes O'Reilly Look Racist - YouTube
There's more...........but the lemmings won't believe a word of it:-(
This is how stupid the Democrat base is. I wonder if Obama ever filled her tank and paid for her mortgage.
Maddow... the same one that came on the air after Walker won re-election as governor of Wisconsin saying "Democracy Lost tonight". She is such a hypocrite.