Quit Picking on the Republicans

Curious Cdn

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Why is that a problem? It's in our Constitution. The people don't elect the President, the state legislatures do.

I am rapidly gaining new respect for our Westminster model system after watching this bizarre spectacle. I think that having an active third party or even fourth, even if they never reach power, moderates the results of our elections and prevents us from shifting to either the extreme left or right.

The two party dichotomy is pretty poisonous and, in this case, led to two widely despised individuals running for President, all the while trying to keep their ridiculously wide power bases happy.

Vat a schmess!
 

davesmom

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Yep, got to agree with most of what you say but I suppose that Ontario & Quebec getting to "run the country" is fair in that a vote in those provinces is the same strength as any other vote in the country. In British Columbia, one could say the province is run by the Lower Mainland, but the truth is that's where the bulk of the people live.



I do believe in majority rule and that's pretty much what happens. But considering how widespread Canada is and how diverse east is from west, is it really fair to the less populated western provinces to be ruled by the two eastern provinces?
Maybe what is needed is an electoral divide, say Eastern Canada and Western Canada with some room for legal flexibility?
I now live in Southern Ontario but I have lived also in Saskatchewan and Manitoba and I know that the interests of the population and the lifestyles in the Western Provinces are quite different from those of Ontario.
There is even a high degree of diversity between northern and southern Ontario. It's pretty hard to make 'one size fits all' laws and expect people to be happy with them.
Back in the day when the rural populations were the majority there seemed to be less discontent. Urban lifestyles have taken over the majority and their interests are completely opposite to the rural population on most issues.
 

JLM

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I do believe in majority rule and that's pretty much what happens. But considering how widespread Canada is and how diverse east is from west, is it really fair to the less populated western provinces to be ruled by the two eastern provinces?
Maybe what is needed is an electoral divide, say Eastern Canada and Western Canada with some room for legal flexibility?
I now live in Southern Ontario but I have lived also in Saskatchewan and Manitoba and I know that the interests of the population and the lifestyles in the Western Provinces are quite different from those of Ontario.
There is even a high degree of diversity between northern and southern Ontario. It's pretty hard to make 'one size fits all' laws and expect people to be happy with them.
Back in the day when the rural populations were the majority there seemed to be less discontent. Urban lifestyles have taken over the majority and their interests are completely opposite to the rural population on most issues.


I say split her 5 miles east of Thunder Bay and put the Capital of Canada West in Calgary.
 

Curious Cdn

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I vote for Winnipeg. It's the geological centre of Canada after all. Parliament would have to stand between the east and west with nowhere to run to. :)

The mosquitos might carry away the occasional parliamentarian in it's talons but maybe that is a good thing.
 

JLM

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I vote for Winnipeg. It's the geological centre of Canada after all. Parliament would have to stand between the east and west with nowhere to run to. :)


That's true. I was thinking more of the centre of Canada West which would be a separate country.

Good Idea. Move the capital to the thinly populated outlands where most Canadians are not.


Calgary is not thinly populated at close to 1.2 million, but I'm easy, Edmonton or Saskatoon would work.
 

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Amazing.
 

tay

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After North Carolina’s attempt to eliminate an entire week of early voting was struck down by a federal court in July, many Republican-controlled county election boards tried to take matters into their own hands.

Dozens of counties voted to slash the number of early voting locations — especially targeting areas of high Democratic voter turnout like college campuses and African-American neighborhoods. Many, but not all, of these cuts were blocked by the state Board of Elections.

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https://thinkprogress.org/north-caro...748#.xnlll09kd


 

tay

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Native Americans have to drive 200 miles to vote

Nine Native American tribes asked the Nevada secretary of state last week to establish early voting locations on their reservations. They claimed the roughly 200 mile round-trip drive many of them have to make to vote early is a significant barrier to the ballot.

On Wednesday, Republican Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske said no.

“Given that your letter reached the Office of the Secretary of State less than 24 hours prior to the scheduled two week period for early voting, we regret that we are unable to accommodate your request,” she wrote in an October 26 letter to Vinton Hawley, the chairman of the Inter-Tribal Council of Nevada.

https://thinkprogress.org/native-tribes-denial-7e0315de3810#.viz3wqyik
 

gopher

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Fact Check: Democrats Have Created Twice As Many Jobs As Republicans Since 1950’s



Democrats are better for the economy. This statement is not an opinion, but a fact. According to economist Steven Stoft, who created a series of graphs charting job creation under each party over the last 72 years (during which time Democrats and Republicans have held control for 36 years each), Democrats have created 58 million jobs while Republicans can only claim 26 million.

For roughly the last century, electing a Democrat has been the better option for the economy, with Dems creating more than double the jobs than that of Republicans, and faster.

Even when taking the percent change of number of jobs held, or scaling population (to avoid counting an increased population, thus falsely indicating an increase in jobs), Democrats still prove more successful than Republicans in job creation, and by a wide margin.


Another way of studying job creation is to take unemployment into account. When a Democrat is in the White House, logically unemployment decreases as well. By this rational, of course, when a GOP takes the Oval Office unemployment rises (and has risen under this party) since 1945.

Indeed, this extends to state and federal levels—the top 20 years of national GDP growth have all been under a Democrat. This is not only true for GDP, but for all economic growth in general—extending to the stock market, income growth and debt as a percentage of GDP.

As if you needed more proof that the blue party is better for the economy, simply turn to the numbers over the last 70 years. When it comes time for Election Day, it’s a matter of fact that with every Democratic ballot cast, it’s almost guaranteed the country will be in a better economic position than if a Republican is sworn in.



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Fact Check: Democrats Have Created Twice As Many Jobs As Republicans Since 1950's
 

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I don’t know what I can add to the media hoopla over Oklahoma state Rep. John Bennett’s supremely weird and bigoted interim study of so-called “Radical Islam” this week, but it might be worth noting the legislator’s inflammatory gestures are symbolic of how the Republican Party here continues to offer fear-mongering as a substitute for substance.

The title of the interim study, according to an Oklahoma House press release, was “Radical Islam, Shariah Law, the Muslim Brotherhood and the radicalization process,” which, of course, implies that all these things represent some type of specific and unique dilemma in outback Oklahoma.

Well, I guess the “radicalization process” by the right-wing Christian religious folks here in Oklahoma is a major problem, but I don’t think Bennett intended the title to be read that way.

Oklahoma Haters | blueoklahoma.org


 

taxslave

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Hooray for minimum wage?

Hiring family.

I don’t know what I can add to the media hoopla over Oklahoma state Rep. John Bennett’s supremely weird and bigoted interim study of so-called “Radical Islam” this week, but it might be worth noting the legislator’s inflammatory gestures are symbolic of how the Republican Party here continues to offer fear-mongering as a substitute for substance.

The title of the interim study, according to an Oklahoma House press release, was “Radical Islam, Shariah Law, the Muslim Brotherhood and the radicalization process,” which, of course, implies that all these things represent some type of specific and unique dilemma in outback Oklahoma.

Well, I guess the “radicalization process” by the right-wing Christian religious folks here in Oklahoma is a major problem, but I don’t think Bennett intended the title to be read that way.

Oklahoma Haters | blueoklahoma.org


Looks like a normal family christmas card photo.
 

gopher

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The ever intolerant right wing:



Trump protester: I was beaten for holding a 'Republicans against Trump' sign

Source: The Guardian

"The man whose protest saw Donald Trump rushed off the stage by Secret Service agents has said the Republican nominee’s supporters turned on him when he held up a sign reading: “Republicans against Trump”.

The man, who identified himself as Austyn Crites, 33, from Reno, told the Guardian he was holding the sign at a rally when Trump supporters wrestled him to the ground.

He said he was kicked, punched and choked, and feared for his life when the crowd turned on him at the gathering in Reno, Nevada.

Crites cited Trump’s treatment of Mexicans, Muslims and women as the reason he decided to protest again Trump, who he described as “a textbook version of a dictator and a fascist”.

There were panicked scenes at the Trump rally, apparently prompted by shouts from at least one person in the crowd that the protester had a gun. Hundreds of people fled to the back of the auditorium in panic as Trump was hurriedly rushed from the stage by his security detail.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-for-holding-a-republicans-against-trump-sign