Quit picking on Obama……

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Here we have that great job recovery some of you have been raving about.

Disappointing jobs report sends stocks tumbling

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks tumbled Friday after the Labor Department said hiring remains weak and Hungary became the latest European country to report its economy is in crisis. Interest rates dropped as investors moved money into the safety of Treasury bonds and notes.
The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 323 points, its third worst slide of the year. The index closed below 10,000 for the second time in two weeks. All the major indexes were down more than 3 percent. The concerns about Hungary pounded the euro to a four-year low.
Disappointing jobs report sends stocks tumbling - Yahoo! Finance


At the end of the day, it is really upto Americans what they want to do about health care. Whether to keep the current law or to go back to the free for all, Devil take the hindmost attitude that prevailed before the legislation, where Insurance companies ruled with an iron fist.

Because make no mistake, the alternative to the current bill is to do nothing, to go back to the rule by insurance companies. Republicans liked the old system just fine. They are getting hefty contributions from insurance companies and they must look after the interests of their pay masters.

One thing is certain. If current legislation is repealed (and it is a virtual impossibility, considering that Republicans need to win the presidency, a majority in the House and at least 60 seats in the Senate), nobody will touch health care for at least 50 years.

Out of control health care costs will continue to skyrocket, and USA will continue to lag in all the health care indicators (life expectancy, infant morality, maternal mortality etc.).

Incidentally, Rasmussen poll isn't worth the paper itis written on. Rasmussen is a loyal Republican and for a while he worked for the extreme right wing website, WoldNetDaily. This is the same Rasmussen who claimed that Obama/McCain was a statistical dead hear, 3 days before the election.
Why do you keep bantering about the Rasmussen poll it is just as accurate as those polls you have been passing off. Some like it better than others, it sure is more popular. Gallup screwed up when Truman beat Dewey and I polls have not changed in accuracy since.
 

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From JFK to Johnson to Nixon to Carter to Reagan to Bush small reprieve with Clinton to Bush to Obama......

EPIC FAIL!
 

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SirJosephPorter opined:

"Incidentally, Rasmussen poll isn't worth the paper itis written on. Rasmussen is a loyal Republican and for a while he worked for the extreme right wing website, WoldNetDaily. This is the same Rasmussen who claimed that Obama/McCain was a statistical dead hear, 3 days before the election."

As usual he was correct, proven by the following article:

The List: Which presidential polls were most accurate? | Texas on the Potomac | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


We have been through this before, YJ. Rasmussen may have been accurate on the last day. However, just 3 or 4 days before the election, Rasmussen was claiming that the race was a statistical dead heat. We have already discussed it before, I have given links to you before this; I don’t want to go over the same ground again.

So it may be that Rasmussen has good polling numbers. However he consistently skews his polls to show Republicans in a good light and show Democrats in a bad light. I repeat, I wouldn’t trust Rasmussen polls.

Here we have that great job recovery some of you have been raving about.

Disappointing jobs report sends stocks tumbling

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks tumbled Friday after the Labor Department said hiring remains weak and Hungary became the latest European country to report its economy is in crisis. Interest rates dropped as investors moved money into the safety of Treasury bonds and notes.
The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 323 points, its third worst slide of the year. The index closed below 10,000 for the second time in two weeks. All the major indexes were down more than 3 percent. The concerns about Hungary pounded the euro to a four-year low.
Disappointing jobs report sends stocks tumbling - Yahoo! Finance



Why do you keep bantering about the Rasmussen poll it is just as accurate as those polls you have been passing off. Some like it better than others, it sure is more popular. Gallup screwed up when Truman beat Dewey and I polls have not changed in accuracy since.

Rasmussen is not an unbiased party ironsides, and that is the problem. He is a Republican; he used to work for the extremist right wing website, WorldNetDaily. I wouldn’t trust his polls. And apparently neither does the mainstream media. They rarely quote Rasmussen (or Zogby) polls.

As to employment report, the economy did create significant number of jobs; the unemployment was down from 9.9 to 9.7%. It is just that Wall Street expected economy to create even more jobs. But jobs data shows that recovery is well under way. A lot of the stock market drop probably was due to turmoil in Europe.

We also had Canada employment numbers today, Canadian economy created more jobs than expected; it was a very positive, very upbeat number. However, TSE went down, same as DOW. This tells me that the reason markets went down was the European turmoil.
 

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SirJosephPorter, compare polls shown here.

This will be my last post on Rasmussen and your knuckle-headed insistance and clinging to your misguided notions about the BEST pollster in America.

Nationwide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at the numbers three days before the election and find where Rasmussen declared a dead heat. And remember that the final result was 52.9% Obama and 45.7% McCain.

You have the last word. I hope you liked tha taste of humble pie with crow.
 

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SirJosephPorter, compare polls shown here.

This will be my last post on Rasmussen and your knuckle-headed insistance and clinging to your misguided notions about the BEST pollster in America.

Nationwide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at the numbers three days before the election and find where Rasmussen declared a dead heat. And remember that the final result was 52.9% Obama and 45.7% McCain.

You have the last word. I hope you liked tha taste of humble pie with crow.

Good to see you are still alive and taking on nourishment Y.J. Polls are absolutely useless- especially past polls. Anyway his Royal Highness only accepts certain polls, very likely those that are as full of B.S. as what he is........................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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SirJosephPorter, compare polls shown here.

This will be my last post on Rasmussen and your knuckle-headed insistance and clinging to your misguided notions about the BEST pollster in America.

Nationwide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at the numbers three days before the election and find where Rasmussen declared a dead heat. And remember that the final result was 52.9% Obama and 45.7% McCain.

You have the last word. I hope you liked tha taste of humble pie with crow.

Gotcha, YJ. It is you who has to eat the humble pie, crow, or whatever your preference is. Look down in the table of polls given in the website. Look at Rasmussen poll conducted from October 26 to October 28 (and presumably reported on October 29 or October 30). It shows Obama 50%, McCain 47%, a statistical dead heat. So three or four days before the election, Rasmussen was declaring the election to be a dead heat.

The website given by you proves my point, in spades. Just as well this is your last post on the subject, because you have nothing left to say (except eat humble pie).


If I were McCartney, I most certainly would not apologize, but repeat what I said.
 
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Helen Thomas Apologizes for Suggesting Jews should 'Get the Hell Out of Palestine' - mediabistro.com: TVNewser

If only the pompous jackass - the crud who ruined Rock'n Roll forever, who was carried by his three fellow Beatles, the conceited jerk whose "singing" brought shivers of horror to the spine of anyone with even the slightest sense of musical art, the illiterate elementary school drop-out whose most intelligent words were obla dee obla daa, the insufferable idiot, Sir Paul McCartney had as much class as Helen Thomas!!

And those who applaud this charlatan are even more pathetic.

I never shed a tear for Lennon, but in retrospect, McCartney would have been a far more suitable and appropriate target for an assassin's bullet.
 
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Helen Thomas Apologizes for Suggesting Jews should 'Get the Hell Out of Palestine' - mediabistro.com: TVNewser

If only the pompous jackass - the crud who ruined Rock'n Roll forever, who was carried by his three fellow Beatles, the conceited jerk whose "singing" brought shivers of horror to the spine of anyone with even the slightest sense of musical art, the illiterate elementary school drop-out whose most intelligent words were obla dee obla daa, the insufferable idiot, Sir Paul McCartney had as much class as Helen Thomas!!

And those who applaud this charlatan are even more pathetic.

I never shed a tear for Lennon, but in retrospect, McCartney would have been a far more suitable and appropriate target for an assassin's bullet.

The two are totally different occurrences. If Helen Thomas did indeed suggest that, I can see that she went over the top and was right to apologize.

However, what should McCartney apologize for? For insulting Bush? Forget it. The extreme right and the teabaggers have been insulting Obama practically non stop since he came to office, calling him a liar, a Nazi, a Communist, a Muslim terrorist and much worse. I am not aware that Obama has asked any of them to apologize (and I am not aware that any Republican leader thought there was anything wrong with that either).

The same Republicans, who have been calling Obama the vilest, the filthiest names for the past year and a half want McCartney to apologize, for what appears to be a much milder insult of Bush? They have got some nerve.

Forget it. As I said, if I were McCartney, not only I wouldn’t’ apologize, but I would repeat the insult.
 

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SirJosephPorter, a leader of a country with spine and integrity would not tolerate a jerk-off punk like Paul McCartney bad-mouthing a former President - who was duly elected TWICE - regardless of political affiliation. Not to mention the high probability, if not the certainty, that GW Bush knows far more about libraries than than the Liverpool slum slime, Paul McCartney.

Remember a few years ago, when French war hero General (who hid in safe places while his fellow coward French "soldiers" surrendered everywhere) DeGaulle came to Canada and butted his elephantine nose in Canada's business? Our Prime Minister politely, but firmly asked the stupid bastard to leave Canada.

If Obama had even a small fraction of Lester B. Pearson's integrity, he would have told this worthless punk to "sing" his vile crap somewhere else.

Your approval of McCartney's insensitive and stupid remarks put you in the gutter right along with him.
 

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I think somebody here knows absolutely nothing about music, the structure of melody, writing music, and about McCartney's role in The Beatles.

However, it's certainly 'Fair and Balanced' to allow people to post things that they have zero knowledge about, it's a great source of humour.

I must go know, I have many boxes to pack before the movers show up. I'm looking forward to their service.