Questions Arise Over Whether ‘Flash Mob’ Attacks in U.S. Cities Motivated by Race

[EagleSmack]

Schooled? What can a Yank teach anyone?

Oooo... you're really fired up about this one.

 

[petros]

Fired up? Not at all. I just want to know how one person can completely rewire the UK policing services.

 

[EagleSmack]

You've been very put out by it.

 

[petros]

Put out? I never knew I was on fire.

 

[EagleSmack]

Why? I think it's a ****ing big ass hillarious joke.

On fire.

Something tells me that if they asked for some "other" country's help you would not be so inflamed.

Just a hunch.

 

[petros]

Nope. It's just odd that UK cops supposedly have no riot experience to go on.

 

[EagleSmack]

At any rate, the Brits asked and as far as I know we're going to help.

That shouldn't really get anyone upset as much as it has.

 

[SLM]

At any rate, the Brits asked and as far as I know we're going to help.

That shouldn't really get anyone upset as much as it has.

I'm not upset.

In fact, after the G20 and Stanley Cup, I'd have been absolutely gobsmacked if they'd asked us!

 

[petros]

It's up to municipal govt to implement things at the local level. The Brit PM can't say this is how it's going to be. He/she can indeed hire an advisor through NPIA but in the end it's the local Govts that decide if they will accept NPIA recommendations.

NPIA: About Us

 

[EagleSmack]

I'm not upset.

In fact, after the G20 and Stanley Cup, I'd have been absolutely gobsmacked if they'd asked us!

I know you're not upset.

I just don't understand why some became furious. Well, I do kind of understand.

 

[ironsides]

We have flash mobs already. Be at a beerstore at 12:01AM on Child Tax Credit day and you'll see one.


Why on earth would they need American "help" does America have a history of riots like the UK or are these going over there to learn and prepare?

We have had riots like the UK are having now and handled them. Unless were having another race war like we had in the 1960's, yes we can do a better job quelling mobs. In answer to your question, William Bratton is going there to teach.

 

[EagleSmack]

William Bratton is going there to teach.

Indeed he is. It is good to teach others and for others to learn I would think.

 

[Cliffy]

We have had riots like the UK are having now and handled them. Unless were having another race war like we had in the 1960's, yes we can do a better job quelling mobs. In answer to your question, William Bratton is going there to teach.

The police in Canada know how to start a riot. I wonder if that skill is a saleable item?

 

[ironsides]

The police in Canada know how to start a riot. I wonder if that skill is a saleable item?

Cell phone jammers in key places would stop them. (malls, train stations and airports etc.) They could be strategically placed to cover main jam points. Again we have to give up something for security though.

 

[petros]

Indeed he is. It is good to teach others and for others to learn I would think.

Government’s ‘Supercop’ idea canned by London Mayor Boris Johnson

Sunday, August 14, 2011
4:23 PM
London Mayor Boris Johnson has cast doubt on plans to draft in a ‘supercop’
from the United States to deal with gangs in the Capital

Prime Minister David Cameron has called for ex-New York police Chief Bill
Bratton to address violence in the UK, following the widespread riots this
week.

But problems in UK cities are not the same as in America, insisted Mayor
Johnson.

Plans to cut police numbers by the Coalition government would undermine the
formula of success employed by Bratton in New York, he added.

“To read across from America to the UK is not as obvious as some people
necessarily might think.

“If you look at New York they have a murder about four times the rate of
London, Los Angeles even higher. The gang problem is considerably worse over
there.

“I would point one key thing is that in New York where he worked together
with Mayor (Rudy) Giuliani to bring down crime so much; you have a city roughly
the same size as London with comparable crime problems in one way or the other,
and actually what he did was he put up police numbers to 42,000 from 30,000.

“So in the numbers game I think that Bill Bratton would certainly side with
the cause of having a healthy, robust force.”

Prime Minister David Cameron has refused to change plans for cutting police
budgets. The changes will lead to a more efficient Force, he stated.

If Bratton's methodology was to increase force members by 25% in NYC to reduce crime and Cameron isn't going reverse cuts to the police budgets, then what can be done? It doesn't make sense.

 

[EagleSmack]

If Bratton's methodology was to increase force members by 25% in NYC to reduce crime and Cameron isn't going reverse cuts to the police budgets, then what can be done? It doesn't make sense.

Did he already weigh in already... or are you speculating?

 

[petros]

Did he already weigh in already... or are you speculating?

It's from the article above.

Gees I posted in haste. It was a 40% boost in staffing not 25%. They'd never be able to afford that.

Maybe it's just cheaper to let them riot for 5 days then round them up later? Eventually they'll burn themselvs out of a place to live and urban planing can go nuts and redevelope a nice size piece of North London.

 

[gopher]

Your forgetting something very important again, Americans are not white.

Huh? Even if you're right, you must know that God ordained that particular crusade. Bush said so, therefore it must be true.

 

[petros]

The moral decay of our society is as bad at the top as the bottom – Telegraph Blogs

 

[EagleSmack]

It's from the article above.

Gees I posted in haste. It was a 40% boost in staffing not 25%. They'd never be able to afford that.

Maybe it's just cheaper to let them riot for 5 days then round them up later? Eventually they'll burn themselvs out of a place to live and urban planing can go nuts and redevelope a nice size piece of North London.

I read the article of what he did in NY... but has he weighed in on what he'd do in England? No.

Again... I don't know why you are so upset.