No, it isn't.
No, it hasn't.
The British Apache is superior to the American one.
Queen to name new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth
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No, it isn't.
No, it hasn't.
The British Apache is superior to the American one.
The British Apache is not American. It is a different version to the American Apache and is built in Britain, not America, to a superior British design. The British Apache, unlike the American one, has more powerful Rolls-Royce engines and is able to be operated from ships. Our new aircraft carriers could carry Apaches. The Yank aircraft carriers can't carry their Apaches.
And your carriers still need training wheels! A jump ramp... a jump ramp in the 21 Century! Seriously? Where do you guys keep the oars?
USS Ronald Reagan F-18 Carrier Launch - YouTube
Most of your carrier aircraft are US designed.
And who was it who came up with the idea for the jump ramp? The British, of course, in 1973 (so it's not that old).
Today, the US is one of just three countries which operate STOVL naval aircraft - the other two being France and Brazil - which do NOT use jump ramps. Jump ramps are actually the norm today.
And as it says on Wikipedia:
Ski jump ramp takeoffs are considered safer than takeoffs over a flat top carrier. When a Harrier launches from an American LHA (Landing Helicopter Assault) it might finish its takeoff roll and begin flight at 60 ft (18 m) above the water. It might not have a positive rate of climb, especially if the ship had pitched nose down during the takeoff roll. Using a ski jump ramp the plane will certainly launch with a positive rate of climb and its momentum will carry it to 150 to 200 ft (46 to 61 m) above the water.
So you can laugh at British ingenuity all you like. Not my problem.
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It is an American Apache renamed. It is ours. The brits are unable to design their own so they copied ours.
You fail.
US Aircraft carriers can't carry Apaches...don't be stupid. All a chopper needs is a platform.
An Apache landing on the USS Nassau.
US Carriers DON'T carry Apaches because they don't need to. They have other ships for that.
Brits ships carry US made Apaches because they don't have anywhere else to put them.
Did you come up with the idea of the oar?
It's an aircraft carrier! Act like you have a pair and use catapults! You incompetent brits can only launch one US Made Aircraft at a time!
Which is why our AIRCRAFT carriers don't carry Harriers!
Oh... oh... I forgot... our support LHAs are like your Brit front line imaginary carriers. Oh I am so sorry.
The British Apache is a British Apache. Designed and built in the UK.
An Apache landing on the USS Nassau.
US Carriers DON'T carry Apaches because they don't need to. They have other ships for that.
I think you'll find that's probably a photo of the Americans testing one of their Apaches on one of their ships.
Both the Americans and the Canadians tested naval Apaches and got nowhere. It was the British who first managed it. In 2004, British Army AgustaWestland Apaches were deployed upon the Royal Navy's HMS Ocean, one of the RN's two Landing Platforms Helicopter, for suitability testing; there was U.S. interest in those trials. British Apaches were launched from helicopter carrier HMS Ocean durying the Libyan intervention in 2011. In 2013, U.S. 36th Combat Aviation Brigade AH-64Ds were tested on a variety of U.S. Navy ships
HMS Ocean loaded with British Apaches during Operation Ellamy and the 2011 military intervention in Libya
British ships don't carry US-made Apaches. They carry Apaches which were built in Yeovilton, Somerset.
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It is US Designed... that is why you call it an Apache.
No... it is operating from it.
Why would the US use US Army Apaches at sea when they already have USMC Super Cobras.
The bulk of your imaginary support carriers will carry US designed and US made aircraft... including the Apache
HMS Ocean loaded with British Apaches during Operation Ellamy and the 2011 military intervention in Libya
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Look at that fine US designed and made Apache.
You're welcome BL
More waste
Another thing... your imaginary ships can only go an imaginary 25+ knots! Our carriers go 30+ with double the aircraft!
And please... PLEASE tell me your imaginary carriers have imaginary nuclear reactors.
Our carriers will be electric powered.
And your aircraft carriers go about 5mph than ours. Is that so you can escape quicker?
Oh brother... gas turbines! Diesel engines! We could have given you our USS America before we used it for target practice!
Having to refuel every few days. Jeepers. I bet that will be tied up pier side a lot!
So they can maneuver and get to where they need to be quicker! We all know how long it took for you to scramble a destroyer when a Russian warship was doing donuts off Scotland.
Oh geez... your imaginary ship is going to be armed with the US made and designed Phalanx CIWS!
Are we going to have to crew your ships now as well?
Not true ES... Patently not true.
You see, Blackie's imaginary navy can go as fast as they want... And fly too, the aircraft carrier has the special pretend capacity to fly away (maybe flee in terror is a better description) whenever a garbage scow hoves into view.
Navy's new carrier practises crucial refuelling using scale models
15/03/2013
One-tonne models of the Navy’s future carriers and the tankers which will support them are being tested in a giant water tank in Gosport. A 1:44 scale model of HMS Queen Elizabeth and RFA Tidespring have been practising replenishments at sea in calm and rough waters at the ‘ocean basin’ test facility – the largest indoor water tank in Europe.
Two highly-accurate one-tonne scale models of HMS Queen Elizabeth and future tanker RFA Tidespring have been tested in Europe’s largest indoor water tank in Gosport to determine how the two ships can sail safely in company.
Key to any future operations by the carrier – the largest warship ever to sail under the White Ensign – will be sustaining her thousands of miles from home.
For that she’ll need to conduct a RAS – replenishment at sea – on a fairly regular basis with a tanker or support ship of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, whose ships provide crucial sustenance to Royal Navy vessels around the world daily.
Hand-in-hand with construction of Queen Elizabeth and her sister HMS Prince of Wales is the construction of a new generation of Fleet tankers – four Tidespring-class ships of 37,000 tonnes, entering service from 2016.
The basic design for the Tidesprings is almost complete – and key to that design has been testing how they perform when working with the future carriers.
When the two ships sail together to conduct a replenishment – fuel, water or dry supplies such as spare parts or fuel transferred by jackstay – they are subject to hydrodynamic forces which can drive them apart, or pull them together – both of which are highly dangerous.
So understanding these forces is key to safe operations.
An artist's impression of one of the four new Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA)Tide-class tankers (right) carrying out a RAS with a Type 45 destoyer
Two 1:44 scale models – the 37,000-tonne 200m-long (659ft) tanker has been reduced to 4.5m (15ft) in length, while the 65,000-tonne HMS Queen Elizabeth has been shrunk from 284m (931ft) in length to 6.45m (21ft) – were built and taken to the enormous ‘ocean basin’ test tank, owned by defence research firm QinetiQ.
The tank in Haslar, Gosport, is 122m (400ft) long, 61m (200ft) wide and 5.5m (18ft) deep – over 15 times more water than in a typical Olympic-sized swimming pool – and can simulate both calm and rougher seas.
Whilst the tank is regularly used by the maritime community, this is the first time that two new ships have been tested for RAS operations.
“The RFA ships will have to keep station using the Queen Elizabeth-class as a guide during RAS,” explained Cdre David Preston, head of RFA Engineering.
“This will take great skill and concentration for long periods in very challenging conditions – so any analysis we can undertake early will provide comfort that the replenishment at sea capability can be met with the new ships.”
Tests in the Haslar tank were carried out in up to a simulated Sea State 6 – very rough seas, with waves up to 4m or 13ft high – and the two models also practised emergency breakaways and engine failures.
Once all the data has been gathered and analysed it will be used by the RN and RFA to draw up the guidelines for safe operations when Tidespring joins the Fleet in 2016.
Images and video courtesy of QinetiQ.
Navy's new carrier practises crucial refuelling using scale models | Royal Navy
I think I figures out the reason for building flattops in England. It is to have a place to land the prayer mats for all the muslims that are moving there. That way they don't clog up the airports that British citizens are using to flee the country.
Tenders are easy targets. The smart unterseeboot captain will track a tender - right to a fat and juicy aircraft carrier