Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19

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Ron in Regina

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So the protest was legal until it was not legal as of Valentine’s Day…& the honking of horns stopped on the seventh, with the injunction by a local Ottawa judge…

So I wonder if this only entails the timeframe from the 14th to 21 February??? where there were no honking horns???

If they’re going to do this, though, then every protest going forward in our nations capital deserves its own class action lawsuit against it I guess? Or do we just outlaw protest in Canada?
 

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So the protest was legal until it was not legal as of Valentine’s Day…& the honking of horns stopped on the seventh, with the injunction by a local Ottawa judge…

So I wonder if this only entails the timeframe from the 14th to 21 February??? where there were no honking horns???

If they’re going to do this, though, then every protest going forward in our nations capital deserves its own class action lawsuit against it I guess? Or do we just outlaw protest in Canada?
If the suit is successful and monetary rewards are grated it does set a precedent regarding protest . And how can a company that volunteerily shut down expect damages while his competitors stayed open and did record sales .
 

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If the suit is successful and monetary rewards are grated it does set a precedent regarding protest . And how can a company that volunteerily shut down expect damages while his competitors stayed open and did record sales .
Record sales until shut down & fined by the city of Ottawa? Wonder if the City of Ottawa will also be named in the class action lawsuit as a defendant???
 

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Informed Canadians will have little trouble remembering how fixated Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was with the foreign money donated through crowdfunding sources to the Freedom Convoy.

But for those who don’t recall, here’s a brief refresher. The PM was so obsessed about donations from Americans helping to fund the truckers’ protest on Parliament Hill last winter that he actually brought it up with U.S. President Joe Biden last February. It remains unclear what he expected the president to do. Freeze his citizen’s bank accounts, perhaps?

Despite Trudeau’s obsession with foreign funding, it turns out the majority of donations, 86 per cent through GoFundMe and 60 per cent through Give Send Go, we’re actually Canadian.

GoFundMe froze the funds after police reports the protests had become an “occupation.” GiveSendGo was subsequently used to raise donations, but then its website was hacked, revealing the names and email addresses of those who contributed to the protests, leading to small business owners and even government employees being cancelled, fired, threatened and harassed.

More than 200 bank accounts were frozen under the Trudeau government’s Emergencies Act for supporting a cause the Prime Minister disagreed with. Regardless of what the Emergencies Act Inquiry found and which side of this issue you fall on, all Canadians should be alarmed that such draconian actions were taken by the prime minister against his own citizens.

Which brings us to the stark contrast between Trudeau’s concern over individual U.S. citizens supporting a cause he disagrees with and his years of inaction and apathy towards foreign money being used to influence the most important cornerstone of our democracy — our free and fair elections.
 

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Informed Canadians will have little trouble remembering how fixated Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was with the foreign money donated through crowdfunding sources to the Freedom Convoy.

But for those who don’t recall, here’s a brief refresher. The PM was so obsessed about donations from Americans helping to fund the truckers’ protest on Parliament Hill last winter that he actually brought it up with U.S. President Joe Biden last February. It remains unclear what he expected the president to do. Freeze his citizen’s bank accounts, perhaps?

Despite Trudeau’s obsession with foreign funding, it turns out the majority of donations, 86 per cent through GoFundMe and 60 per cent through Give Send Go, we’re actually Canadian.

GoFundMe froze the funds after police reports the protests had become an “occupation.” GiveSendGo was subsequently used to raise donations, but then its website was hacked, revealing the names and email addresses of those who contributed to the protests, leading to small business owners and even government employees being cancelled, fired, threatened and harassed.

More than 200 bank accounts were frozen under the Trudeau government’s Emergencies Act for supporting a cause the Prime Minister disagreed with. Regardless of what the Emergencies Act Inquiry found and which side of this issue you fall on, all Canadians should be alarmed that such draconian actions were taken by the prime minister against his own citizens.

Which brings us to the stark contrast between Trudeau’s concern over individual U.S. citizens supporting a cause he disagrees with and his years of inaction and apathy towards foreign money being used to influence the most important cornerstone of our democracy — our free and fair elections.
Blaming whatever on "them damn foreigners" is the oldest trick in the political book. Works especially well when "them damn foreigners" are Yanks.
 

Ron in Regina

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Going past the Public Inquiry whitewash where “another judge could’a found a different conclusion with the same facts” etc….now come the court. An actual court.

What will happen is like a game of Roulette. Round & Round & Round she goes…where it stops is anyone’s guess…

The hearing at federal court this week is not bound by the Rouleau Commission’s conclusion but will have the advantage of access to some of the testimony and documentary evidence presented during the public inquiry. And unlike Commissioner Rouleau’s report, the court will make a formal legal finding on the question of whether using the act was justified. The hearing has proceeded in the face of hurdle after hurdle being thrown up by the government, including claims of mootness, opposition to the admission of certain evidence from the Commission, and multiple other delay tactics.

The CCF and CCLA are arguing for a declaration that the government violated the law when the prime minister involved the Emergencies Act. The act vests tremendous power with cabinet, including the power to make new criminal law by executive order, without parliamentary debate or advance notice. In the decades since it was enacted in 1988, Canada has weathered terrorist attacks, economic hardship, and an unprecedented global health pandemic, all without ever resorting to the incredible powers contained in the Emergencies Act. The prime minister’s first ever use of this law was not in response to a natural disaster or the outbreak of war, but to a series of noisy and highly disruptive but largely peaceful protests.

The Trudeau government’s use of this law is controversial and may be the most severe example of overreach and violations of civil liberties that was seen during the pandemic. It constituted an unauthorized use of a powerful law because the legal threshold to use the law was not met. The Emergencies Act contains a last resort clause: it can only be used when there is a national emergency and there are no other laws at the federal, provincial and/or municipal levels which can address the situation. Parliament cannot use the Emergencies Act as a tool of convenience.

The hearing is brought by a group of civil liberties organizations, the Canadian Constitution Foundation and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, who are arguing that the high threshold of the act was not met and that the regulations enacted under it, including the freezing of bank accounts, were unconstitutional.

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Going past the Public Inquiry whitewash where “another judge could’a found a different conclusion with the same facts” etc….now come the court. An actual court.

What will happen is like a game of Roulette. Round & Round & Round she goes…where it stops is anyone’s guess…

The hearing at federal court this week is not bound by the Rouleau Commission’s conclusion but will have the advantage of access to some of the testimony and documentary evidence presented during the public inquiry. And unlike Commissioner Rouleau’s report, the court will make a formal legal finding on the question of whether using the act was justified. The hearing has proceeded in the face of hurdle after hurdle being thrown up by the government, including claims of mootness, opposition to the admission of certain evidence from the Commission, and multiple other delay tactics.

The CCF and CCLA are arguing for a declaration that the government violated the law when the prime minister involved the Emergencies Act. The act vests tremendous power with cabinet, including the power to make new criminal law by executive order, without parliamentary debate or advance notice. In the decades since it was enacted in 1988, Canada has weathered terrorist attacks, economic hardship, and an unprecedented global health pandemic, all without ever resorting to the incredible powers contained in the Emergencies Act. The prime minister’s first ever use of this law was not in response to a natural disaster or the outbreak of war, but to a series of noisy and highly disruptive but largely peaceful protests.

The Trudeau government’s use of this law is controversial and may be the most severe example of overreach and violations of civil liberties that was seen during the pandemic. It constituted an unauthorized use of a powerful law because the legal threshold to use the law was not met. The Emergencies Act contains a last resort clause: it can only be used when there is a national emergency and there are no other laws at the federal, provincial and/or municipal levels which can address the situation. Parliament cannot use the Emergencies Act as a tool of convenience.

The hearing is brought by a group of civil liberties organizations, the Canadian Constitution Foundation and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, who are arguing that the high threshold of the act was not met and that the regulations enacted under it, including the freezing of bank accounts, were unconstitutional.

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Good luck to them .
 
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Ron in Regina

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OTTAWA - The federal government lacked the evidence to determine protests and barricades across Canada last year were threats to national security, an organization that defends constitutional rights told a federal judge Tuesday.

Sujit Choudhry, counsel for the Canadian Constitution Foundation, said the Liberal government needed more supporting information to make that finding in mid-February 2022.

“Cabinet’s determination that the protests and blockades were threats to the security of Canada was unreasonable, because it had insufficient evidence to reach that conclusion,” Choudhry said during the second day of a Federal Court review.

Justice Richard Mosley is hearing concerns from several groups and individuals about the government’s use of the Emergencies Act to quell “Freedom Convoy” actions that paralyzed downtown Ottawa and blocked key border points.

The Public Order Emergency Commission, a mandatory review that takes place after invocation of the emergencies statute, recently found the government met the very high threshold for using the law.

Legal arguments about the historic decision are now being weighed by a court of law. The rest at the below link:
 

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The three-day hearing began Monday with the federal government’s reasons why the matter should not be in court at all, given that the emergency measures have been revoked.
That is like saying there is no point trying a murderer, because the rmurder has already occurred.
 
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