Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19

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To say this will be a political and media circus is an understatement. The list of potential witnesses includes key members of cabinet, such as Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino and, most notably, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Convoy organizers including Tamara Lich, Pat King and Chris Barber are also expected to be called.

The most important part of this hearing may not be the testimony of politicians or convoy supporters, however, but that of the RCMP and intelligence services. How did they assess the threat to public safety? What advice did they give the government, or not? How was that advice treated once received? Was it exaggerated or misinterpreted in any way?

 

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To say this will be a political and media circus is an understatement. The list of potential witnesses includes key members of cabinet, such as Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino and, most notably, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Convoy organizers including Tamara Lich, Pat King and Chris Barber are also expected to be called.

The most important part of this hearing may not be the testimony of politicians or convoy supporters, however, but that of the RCMP and intelligence services. How did they assess the threat to public safety? What advice did they give the government, or not? How was that advice treated once received? Was it exaggerated or misinterpreted in any way?

Its crazy to think RCMP and CSIS didnt ride in the convoy from Mile 1 in Nanaimo.

I guess we find out what they know starting tomorrow. They have 3 choices. Tell the truth, lie or say nothing. Which will it be?
 
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The top three politicians slated to appear wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. It will be interesting to see how turdOWE's bought judge silences anyone that doesn't tow the party line.
 
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Its crazy to think RCMP and CSIS didnt ride in the convoy from Mile 1 in Nanaimo.

I guess we find out what they know starting tomorrow. They have 3 choices. Tell the truth, lie or say nothing. Which will it be?
They were there once it started gaining steam when reaching the prairies .
 

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The top three politicians slated to appear wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. It will be interesting to see how turdOWE's bought judge silences anyone that doesn't tow the party line.
They know the truth and they know they won’t tell it .
 

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They were there once it started gaining steam when reaching the prairies .
According to "Dancing Bob" (as seen on youtube) who came across a truck pulling a movie dressing room type trailer with clean cut truckers who were ordering catered meals, they were there the whole trip.


 
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Well, today is the day this is supposed to get started, in a little over an hour.

This inquiry is about WHY the government chose to use the emergencies act, & NOT about the protest itself. Regardless of how this is going to be reframed….this is what the inquiry is actually about. I hope those called to testify respect this for what it is, & not giving non-answers via talking points regardless of the questions like they’re in parliament.

I know this will be highly politicized, and the narrative will attempt to be spun away from the Govt’s actions based upon their decisions…and I hope this Judge keeps this on track instead of letting a fiction be spun….facts and times and reactions, but only time will tell.

1) Was this truly a “National” Emergency?
2) Was there no other laws that could address the situation as opposed to invoking the Emergencies Act?
3) Was the Emergencies Act necessary when it was invoked?

The act itself is clear that a national emergency is an “urgent and critical situation” that either “seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians,” or “seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada,” and — critically — “cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law.”
 
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Eight months after anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate protesters gridlocked parts of downtown Ottawa, a public inquiry has opened its public hearings as it probes the federal government's unprecedented use of emergency powers to clear the capital.
Documents introduced at the Emergencies Act inquiry will tell 'quite the story,' lawyer says???
 
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Eight months after anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate protesters gridlocked parts of downtown Ottawa, a public inquiry has opened its public hearings as it probes the federal government's unprecedented use of emergency powers to clear the capital.
Documents introduced at the Emergencies Act inquiry will tell 'quite the story,' lawyer says???
Wait...isn't this supposed to be an inquiry into finding if there was justification in using the Emergencies Act to shut down a protest?

The commission is the first of its kind in Canada and is a legal requirement under the Emergencies Act. Through an order-in-council, the commission has been directed to examine the circumstances that led to the declaration of a public emergency and to examine the following issues:

  • The evolution and goals of the convoy and blockades, their leadership, organization and participants.
  • The impact of domestic and foreign funding on the protests, including money from crowdsourcing platforms.
  • The impact, role and sources of misinformation and disinformation associated with the protests, including the role played by social media.
  • The impact of the blockades, including their economic impact.
  • And the actions of police and other responders prior to and after the declaration.

This article seems to imply that the inquiry is examining:
  • Protest organizers and their goals.
  • Funding of the protestors.
  • Social media's role in the protest.
  • Impact of the protest.
  • Police response to the protest.
What about....you know.... examining the justification of the Government invoking the war measures act?
 
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Hmmmm....extremist violence....economic harm... Canada’s territorial integrity....

Does this mean bank accounts and property of Sierra Club, Extinction Rebellion, GreenFleece, Wet’suwet’en Land Defender and the likes members can be seized?
 

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Hmmmmm...Just turned on CBC news channel......Nothing on there related to this.
Of course, if you put any American channel on this afternoon, you can get blow by blow of them trying to bust Trump again.....lol
Wife is right pissed off, she is missing the Bold and Beautiful and General Hospital.
 
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OTTAWA — Lawyers for Alberta and Saskatchewan say those provinces were blindsided when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called the premiers on Valentine’s Day to say the federal government was considering using the Emergencies Act for the first time to quash so-called “Freedom Convoy” protests.

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The provinces are arguing — alongside protest organizers, some civil liberties groups and the Ontario Provincial Police — that the controversial decision was unnecessary.

The provinces also claim the federal government failed to properly consult them, which the Emergencies Act requires before it is invoked.

The statements came in the opening hours of a public inquiry into the use of the act during the convoy crisis last winter, a process that inquiry commissioner Paul Rouleau said would focus “squarely” on that unprecedented decision.

“The call (on Feb. 14) was not so much about consulting, it was about telling,” said Saskatchewan government lawyer Mike Morris.

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Alberta government lawyer Mandy England agreed, adding that her province effectively dealt with a convoy-inspired border blockade in southern Alberta without any of the special powers created under the Emergencies Act.

“None of the powers that were created under the federal Emergencies Act were necessary, nor were any of them used,” she said.
Wait...isn't this supposed to be an inquiry into finding if there was justification in using the Emergencies Act to shut down a protest?…

…What about....you know.... examining the justification of the Government invoking the war measures act?

Rouleau, a judge with Ontario’s top court who was chosen by the federal government to lead the inquiry, said earlier that it will aim to uncover facts about the convoy protests that occupied Ottawa and inspired border blockades last winter. (?)

Trudeau’s government has insisted that it needed to use the act as a “last resort” to deal with a national emergency that was harming Canada’s territorial integrity, causing economic harm, and included the threat of extremist violence. (?)

“While this inquiry will deal with a wide range of issues … its focus will remain squarely on the decision of the federal government. Why did it declare an emergency? How did it use its powers? And were those actions appropriate?” Rouleau said.

Robert MacKinnon, a lawyer for the federal government, predicted “the evidence will show that the invocation of the Emergencies Act was a reasonable and necessary decision, given the escalating volatile and urgent circumstances across the country.”

Brendan Miller, who represents protest organizers, took the direct opposite view. He said the inquiry will hear no evidence that supports any legal reason for triggering the Emergencies Act, such as evidence of espionage and sabotage, clandestine or deceptive foreign influence, threats of serious violence, or groups trying to overthrow the government.

Rouleau said much of the material the inquiry has examined is classified, but that he would strive to minimize how much of it might need to be analyzed and presented behind closed doors. He said he expects “thousands of pages” of inquiry material will be posted online.

“During these hearings, I will be hearing the bulk of this evidence for the first time, just like members of the public,” Rouleau said.

“I intend to take a judicial attitude to my job. By that I mean that independence, impartiality and fairness are my touchstones.”
 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the federal government wasinvoking the Emergencies Acton Feb. 14. It was the first time the legislation was used since its creation in 1988. The government’s aim was to bring an end to the convoy protests that shuttered downtown Ottawa and the border blockades (The blockade ended the day before the federal government issued the emergency orders though) that stymied trade at several crossings with the United States.

“The federal government has invoked the Emergencies Act to supplement provincial and territorial capacity to address the blockades (that had already ended) and occupations,” said Mr. Trudeau, calling the move a measure of “last resort.”

Under the act, the government issued sweeping orders that gave police the ability to arrest protesters within specific prohibited areas and gave financial institutions the power to freeze protesters’ accounts without a court order.

The orders took effect on Feb. 14. The law allows for parliamentary oversight of the orders but not before they are put in place.

Parliament voted on the motion confirming a declaration of emergency on Feb. 21. By then police had already cleared the protests in Ottawa.

The vote was supported by all Liberal and NDP MPs and the Green Party’s Elizabeth May. However, Conservative and Bloc Québécois MPs opposed the declaration of emergency, as did Green MP Mike Morrice. It split the Green Party right down the middle??

It was ultimately lifted on Feb. 23– nine days after being invoked hours before the Senate could squash it.

According to the commission mandate, the commissioner will assess the basis for the government’s decision to declare a public order emergency, the circumstances that led to it, and the “appropriateness and effectiveness” of the measures taken.
 

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Apparently you can follow the bouncing ball here:

 

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Eight months after anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate protesters gridlocked parts of downtown Ottawa, a public inquiry has opened its public hearings as it probes the federal government's unprecedented use of emergency powers to clear the capital.
Documents introduced at the Emergencies Act inquiry will tell 'quite the story,' lawyer says???
Just not seeing road gridlock in a city that thrives on permit gridlock as being an issue worthy of a national emergency.
 
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Hmmmm....extremist violence....economic harm... Canada’s territorial integrity....

Does this mean bank accounts and property of Sierra Club, Extinction Rebellion, GreenFleece, Wet’suwet’en Land Defender and the likes members can be seized?
Are you kidding ? For fighting the good fight . They get government grants and funding .
 
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Even before Justice Paul Rouleau had a full day of public hearings under his belt, Justin Trudeau was publicly defending his invocation of the Emergencies Act.

A normal prime minister, one who followed our laws, constitution and legal traditions, would have said he couldn’t comment while the inquiry was on.

Instead, for the second day in a row, Trudeau was pleading his case in the court of public opinion.

“We knew from the very beginning, that invoking the Emergencies Act is a big step that had never been done before,” Trudeau said in Hamilton. “But given these unprecedented illegal protests, we needed to take action. We took it in a way that was measured, that was responsible that was time limited.”

It’s not up to the Prime Minister to declare, as the inquiry into his use of the Emergencies Act begins, that his actions were measured, responsible and time limited. Were this a trial, Trudeau could have been found in contempt of court for such utterances. Instead, he’s just showing he has no shame.

The purpose of this inquiry is supposed to be to look into the government’s actions and whether they are justified. That’s what the Emergencies Act requires, but the terms of reference Trudeau issued to Justice Rouleau back in April show he wants the judge to look into the behavior and financing of the protesters.

“Uncovering the truth is an important goal,” Justice Rouleau said in his opening statement.

Getting the truth out of any government is difficult — they all like to keep things hidden — but the Trudeau government is the antithesis of the open and transparent government he promised before he was elected. Justice Rouleau his team at the Commission will need to work hard to ensure the truth does come out and that “the circumstances that led to the declaration being issued” are examined as the law requires.

That means examining the government’s actions and their reasons for invoking the act in the first place.

Justice Rouleau undertakes this job with a partisan cloud hanging over him, one that I hope he can disperse. Given his past as a key staffer to former Liberal prime minister John Turner, many people have suspicions.

His time working for Turner though is more than 30 years ago. His time as a low-level Liberal donor – just a few hundred dollars in the mid-90s – is also a long time ago but gives some pause for concern. Let’s hope that he proves his impartiality by pushing the government to get to the truth.

According to the law, a Public Order Emergency, which is what the Trudeau government invoked, is “an emergency that arises from threats to the security of Canada and that is so serious as to be a national emergency.” I’ve never felt the convoy protests in Ottawa met that threshold.


Remember that the blockade of the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor had been cleared before the Trudeau government even met to discuss the Emergencies Act. The much smaller blockade in Coutts was being dealt with by the RCMP in Alberta.


In Ottawa, the protests had lingered for weeks because there was a lack of leadership at the municipal level. Once Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly “resigned” and someone new was put in charge, the streets were cleared.

There was no reason to suspend civil liberties, give police extraordinary powers that they didn’t even use, or to freeze the bank accounts of protest participants. Regardless of your view of the protests, and I told them to go home after the first weekend, invoking this act is something that should only be done under extreme circumstances.


The Trudeau government failed to adequately defend their actions in Parliament, let’s see if they can when the truth comes out at the Commission.
 
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