Progressive goes nuts, kills 3

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HUH!! My Facebook Likes include the NRA, Hot Chicks with Guns and Conservative Party of Canada ;)

After she shoots all he comrades that are trying to bone her she would be 'the chick with the hot gun'
 

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good on ya, Colpy! At least you're not playing Walter's "Progressive Card"! So sad, Walter... so sad!

oh wait... guns don't kill people, parking disputes kill people!

I really don't care what the political alignment of psychos is...........and to shoot three people over a parking dispute is completely whacked.
 

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Hide a few (not needed) words and suddenly everybody is wearing clear classes. The fact they had to is more than a little telling as to how good the real smear campaign is working.
 

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Lookit waldo finally came up with a sensible statement.

shyte! I forgot my snarc tag!

note: per member Colpy, these gun-related murders are not officially labeled... gun related murders... unless it can be determined that the assailant did not have access to any other "murder implements" other than a gun!
 
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Shouldn't the OP thread title say 'white guy' instead of progressive.


Actually, shouldn't it say 'Walter' instead of white guy?
 

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shyte! I forgot my snarc tag!

note: per member Colpy, these gun-related murders are not officially labeled... gun related murders... unless it can be determined that the assailant did not have access to any other "murder implements" other than a gun!

(sigh)

No, they are murders, pure and simple.

He might have gone there with a machete had he no access to a gun.....or a can of gasoline and a match. Or a baseball bat........all of which have been used in multiple killings.

My point was, is, and always will be the use of "gun related deaths" or even "gun related murder" statistics are intended to deceive. Unless you can show that gun laws that restrict access to guns lower murder rates, the stats are irrelevant.....unless of course you think someone bludgeoned, stabbed, or burned to death is somehow less dead that someone shot......

Oh, and I like this better....can you watch the rifle? :)

 

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I'm more than a little sure the headline would be quite different if the victim and the shooters 'religious affiliation' had been different. Nice to see hiprocracy working so smoothly in our 'well adjusted social setting', such as it is.
 

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(sigh)

No, they are murders, pure and simple.

He might have gone there with a machete had he no access to a gun.....or a can of gasoline and a match. Or a baseball bat........all of which have been used in multiple killings.

My point was, is, and always will be the use of "gun related deaths" or even "gun related murder" statistics are intended to deceive. Unless you can show that gun laws that restrict access to guns lower murder rates, the stats are irrelevant.....unless of course you think someone bludgeoned, stabbed, or burned to death is somehow less dead that someone shot......

so... what's with the "(sigh)"? You've just confirmed what I wrote.

I'll give you another kick at it: you, quite obviously, accept the deaths are murders committed by a gun (ya, ya... committed by a person using a gun). So, that would make these murders, "GUN RELATED MURDERS", right Colpy? Where's the deceit in labeling those murders just that; labeling them "GUN RELATED MURDERS"?
 

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Logic isn't going to make you any friends here, you already know that. I'll give you a green if you actually get a decent reply to your post.
 

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so... what's with the "(sigh)"? You've just confirmed what I wrote.

I'll give you another kick at it: you, quite obviously, accept the deaths are murders committed by a gun (ya, ya... committed by a person using a gun). So, that would make these murders, "GUN RELATED MURDERS", right Colpy? Where's the deceit in labeling those murders just that; labeling them "GUN RELATED MURDERS"?

Oh they are "gun related" murders.....but that is irrelevant.

You gonna hijack this thread as well?

Thus the (sigh)
 
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Oh they are "gun related" murders.....but that is irrelevant.

so... these 3 are... but given your most emphatic whines/wails in the other (concurrently running) thread about not accepting any gun-related murder statistics, you'll need to once again, in this thread, provide your rationale in that regard. Again, why are you now accepting to these 3 murders (by gun) being labeled as 'gun related murders', but you're not accepting to "some other kind of murders (by gun)', as not being labeled as 'gun related murders'? Again, what's the distinction you hold in that regard? Please clarify, Colpy.....

You gonna hijack this thread as well? Thus the (sigh)

as well? There's only one other thread where you and I are actively discussing... gun related violence, gun related murders, gunNuttery, etc.. That thread hasn't been "hijacked"... it's, quite obviously, a thread discussing all manner of gun related topics... so what's with the "as well"? Now, from my perspective, calling you out on your "peculiar" view on what constitutes a gun related murder seems most apropos for this thread... hardly a "hijacking"! Wouldn't you say, Colpy?
 

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so... these 3 are... but given your most emphatic whines/wails in the other (concurrently running) thread about not accepting any gun-related murder statistics, you'll need to once again, in this thread, provide your rationale in that regard. Again, why are you now accepting to these 3 murders (by gun) being labeled as 'gun related murders', but you're not accepting to "some other kind of murders (by gun)', as not being labeled as 'gun related murders'? Again, what's the distinction you hold in that regard? Please clarify, Colpy.....



as well? There's only one other thread where you and I are actively discussing... gun related violence, gun related murders, gunNuttery, etc.. That thread hasn't been "hijacked"... it's, quite obviously, a thread discussing all manner of gun related topics... so what's with the "as well"? Now, from my perspective, calling you out on your "peculiar" view on what constitutes a gun related murder seems most apropos for this thread... hardly a "hijacking"! Wouldn't you say, Colpy?

These are not statistics. This is one incident.

I do not accept statistics that cherry-pick only gun related murders in an attempt to deceive the unthinking into believing guns cause murder.

As for the hijacking of threads, let's agree not to go there.
 

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These are not statistics. This is one incident.

I do not accept statistics that cherry-pick only gun related murders in an attempt to deceive the unthinking into believing guns cause murder.

As for the hijacking of threads, let's agree not to go there.

but, of course, statistics reflect on... the multitude of instances. You accept this one incident; but you offer distinction to other incidents. That is, you offered the distinction (in the other thread), but you're interestingly 'shy' in doing so here... ostensibly over some "concern" for hijacking this thread! Really? I'll give you another shot at making the distinction here... or I can just go re-quote what you're written previously in that regard. IMO, this point is most appropriate for this thread.

I can't play anymore at the moment... real world calls. Looking forward to your further qualification, here.
 

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but, of course, statistics reflect on... the multitude of instances. You accept this one incident; but you offer distinction to other incidents. That is, you offered the distinction (in the other thread), but you're interestingly 'shy' in doing so here... ostensibly over some "concern" for hijacking this thread! Really? I'll give you another shot at making the distinction here... or I can just go re-quote what you're written previously in that regard. IMO, this point is most appropriate for this thread.

I can't play anymore at the moment... real world calls. Looking forward to your further qualification, here.

Reading comprehension.

Once again, and repition does not seem to help with you, statistics that include only "gun related murder" or "gun related deaths" prove nothing, as they stand in isolation from the overall level of murder, or the action behind the death (accident, homicide, suicide)

You are already hijacking the thread with your idiotic inability to comprehend the simplest concepts. The thread is about the tragic murder of three individuals, and the fact that it may have been motivated by their religion. It is not about guns. It is not about YOU, your passive aggressiveness, nor your incompetence in reading comprehension, your inability to understand the manipulation of opinion through irrelevant statistics, nor your trolling, nor your obtuse insistense at derailing what might be a reasonable debate, if only you would STFU.

Is that clear enough for you?