Progressive goes nuts, kills 3

captain morgan

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so... what's with the "(sigh)"? You've just confirmed what I wrote.

I'll give you another kick at it: you, quite obviously, accept the deaths are murders committed by a gun (ya, ya... committed by a person using a gun). So, that would make these murders, "GUN RELATED MURDERS", right Colpy? Where's the deceit in labeling those murders just that; labeling them "GUN RELATED MURDERS"?

They are parking-dispute related murders as well. Why aren't you pissing and moaning 'bout that?

They are dead... How they died is secondary to the aforementioned fact
 

waldo

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Once again, and repetition does not seem to help with you, statistics that include only "gun related murder" or "gun related deaths" prove nothing, as they stand in isolation from the overall level of murder, or the action behind the death (accident, homicide, suicide)

again, imagine that; using gun related murder data to speak to gun related murder deaths! That's radical! :mrgreen: WIGGLE-ROOM, Colpy! Wiggle Colpy, wiggle!

you presume to speak to the, as you say, "tragic murder of 3 individuals"... but how telling is it Colpy, that you can't even find the fake-concern to call that the, "tragic GUN murder of 3 individuals"? And you do this all within the over-riding context of your pompous dismissals of any/all gun-related murder analysis/statistics/data that actually speaks for these 3 individuals and actually encompasses your fake-concern for these 3 individuals within the very gun-related analysis findings that you shyte on and refuse to accept.
It means they are manipulating the data by using FIREARMS deaths only.......as they always do

Now I will explain to you again, that if gun control does not lower homicide rates in a significant manner, then it is simply an intrusion on our rights without cause.

Unless you can show that a murder would not happen if there was no gun, you fail. If the killer simply uses a knife, you fail.

The use of FIREARMS DEATHS only is a blatant attempt to mislead the stupid.
no one, other than you, is speaking about knife deaths! Talk about "YOU FAIL"! You're in bizarro world here. Apparently, to you, gun related deaths by guns ONLY COUNT if the actual death couldn't be alternatively undertaken with a knife or a brazillion other methods of applied attack/violence. That sir, that is WIGGLE-WORM! :mrgreen:

WIGGLE Colpy, WIGGLE!


 

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again, imagine that; using gun related murder data to speak to gun related murder deaths! That's radical! :mrgreen: WIGGLE-ROOM, Colpy! Wiggle Colpy, wiggle!

you presume to speak to the, as you say, "tragic murder of 3 individuals"... but how telling is it Colpy, that you can't even find the fake-concern to call that the, "tragic GUN murder of 3 individuals"? And you do this all within the over-riding context of your pompous dismissals of any/all gun-related murder analysis/statistics/data that actually speaks for these 3 individuals and actually encompasses your fake-concern for these 3 individuals within the very gun-related analysis findings that you shyte on and refuse to accept.

Take your medication, pissant.
 

mentalfloss

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Looking at gun related deaths makes sense to me too.

Every time you guys spar on this, I have yet to see Colpy bring up a convincing argument as to why that particular data is 'incomplete' but I am open to the possibility if Colpers can do a better job of splainin.
 

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Looking at gun related deaths makes sense to me too.

Every time you guys spar on this, I have yet to see Colpy bring up a convincing argument as to why that particular data is 'incomplete' but I am open to the possibility if Colpers can do a better job of splainin.

Your face is just fine; but you’re gonna have to put a bag over that personality.
 

DaSleeper

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Looking at gun related deaths makes sense to me too.

Every time you guys spar on this, I have yet to see Colpy bring up a convincing argument as to why that particular data is 'incomplete' but I am open to the possibility if Colpers can do a better job of splainin.
To me it's fairly simple,
Eg; you do a survey of deaths by suicide and you find that if you restrict gun sales, the number of suicides by gun goes down, but you forget that total suicides by any means has not gone down. but don't include that in your survey, you are either fooling yourself or trying to to fool others.
That's dumbing it down for Waldo, but it has to be done....
I thought you were smarter.....
 

Colpy

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Looking at gun related deaths makes sense to me too.

Every time you guys spar on this, I have yet to see Colpy bring up a convincing argument as to why that particular data is 'incomplete' but I am open to the possibility if Colpers can do a better job of splainin.

Because the majority of "gun related deaths" are suicides, by definition completely voluntary.

Because "gun related deaths" can easily be demonstrated to have nothing whatsoever to do with murder rates, and are used to illustrate the level of violence in a society. That is misleading to say the least. In fact, that is the reason people quote "gun related" deaths and/or murder, to mislead the uninformed reader into believing guns cause murder and/or suicide......which is simply untrue.

If you wish to argue for a limitation of rights for the good of society, you need to show that the limitation will actually make a significant difference. In other words, you need to show that murderers will not switch to other weapons, and that the limitations will affect overall murder rates, not just "gun related" murder.

As for suicides, I do not think voluntary self-murder should even enter the discussion.

That help?
 

waldo

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Looking at gun related deaths makes sense to me too.

Every time you guys spar on this, I have yet to see Colpy bring up a convincing argument as to why that particular data is 'incomplete' but I am open to the possibility if Colpers can do a better job of splainin.

member Colpy doesn't know which way to turn; he's so twisted in knots from having his hypocrisy, contradictions and mega-data analysis failures highlighted! He's forever bleating on about anti-gun agendas and posturing with his conspiracy rants, yet this is the same Colpy who has absolutely NO qualms in repeatedly using/leveraging unqualified murder data (without regard to method/implement) to attempt to speak to gun-related murders..... and he gets mighty pissed to the point of a Colpy meltdown if you dare to call him on his use of unqualified murder data! Colpy, the guy who champions HIS self-serving absence of data qualification... Colpy, the guy who states that unless a gun-related murder can be shown to never have occurred by any other means, those related instances/data are "skewed, illegitimate, biased, agenda-driven, etc.."... and can't be used!!! :mrgreen:
 

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member Colpy doesn't know which way to turn; he's so twisted in knots from having his hypocrisy, contradictions and mega-data analysis failures highlighted! He's forever bleating on about anti-gun agendas and posturing with his conspiracy rants, yet this is the same Colpy who has absolutely NO qualms in repeatedly using/leveraging unqualified murder data (without regard to method/implement) to attempt to speak to gun-related murders..... and he gets mighty pissed to the point of a Colpy meltdown if you dare to call him on his use of unqualified murder data! Colpy, the guy who champions HIS self-serving absence of data qualification... Colpy, the guy who states that unless a gun-related murder can be shown to never have occurred by any other means, those related instances/data are "skewed, illegitimate, biased, agenda-driven, etc.."... and can't be us

This is the last tyime I will respond to your bullshyte on this thread.....you have already hijacked the "myth" thread with your idiotic ramblings and obsessive rants....I will respond to you there or in the gun control thread. ed!!! :mrgreen:

You couldn't twist a wet dishrag, Dumba$$. You don't have the brains for the job.

This is the last time I will respond to your bullshyte on this thread.....you have already hijacked the "myth" thread with your idiotic ramblings and obsessive rants....I will respond to you there or in the gun control thread.

I see no reason to encourage you spreading like a bad rash.

Let the sane people have a discussion here.
 

waldo

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You couldn't twist a wet dishrag, Dumba$$. You don't have the brains for the job.

This is the last time I will respond to your bullshyte on this thread

I see no reason to encourage you spreading like a bad rash.

Let the sane people have a discussion here.

it burns hey, Colpy? There's no hijack here. Your fake expression of "tragic murders" was personified by your inability to bring yourself to even mention they were murdered by guns. Of course the way you self-serving manipulate and cherry-pick unqualified murder related data is a further testimony of your fake concern here. Equally, the way your agenda-driven self dismisses gun-murder data amplifies your disingenuous position here.

.....you have already hijacked the "myth" thread with your idiotic ramblings and obsessive rants....I will respond to you there or in the gun control thread..

oh my! That "Good Guy Myth" thread is all over the map, touching upon many gun-related facets/topics... are you really going to claim you've not brought up a single one them? :mrgreen: I would suggest that you've been the principal "hijacker" in that regard and I'm simply responding in kind. Your problem is that you can't handle the response, particularly as it shows just how weak your "arguments" have been/are. Other than insult, bluster, nattering and blowhardiness, ya gots nuthin beyond your standard gunNuttery talking points!