I think what I probably ment was under age relationships should never have been allowed. I hope that clears up things. p.s. I hope that you were not offended by my post. I was just thinking in terms of protecting the young.
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It has nothing to do with insecurity for us. In my previous relationship (22 years of marriage) I was the sole breadwinner so there was never a question. All the money went into one account and we both used it. My current partner came from a similar situation but he had more control over the money. The system we use was discussed at great length and modified many times to get where it is today. We are both very happy with it and it puts us both on equal footing in the relationship. I know that is tough to understand for someone like you Gerry who wants to keep women subservient but some of us actually believe women are equals.
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For a second I thought I'd missed something about you. But no, apparently just a typo or a misread.
To elaborate, in my marriage my wife & I both had equal access to the money (both had bank cards and cheques). In my partner's marriage she got an allowance in cash plus what she earned part time, that was it.
Where is that carved in stone?
The main thing possibly being that he has very limited resources!
I said "for me".....in my opinion..... as far as I'm concerned...... The way it works in my family, and the way I was brought up, the man foots the bill on a date. It's what I expect my boys to do, and it's what I did when I was growing up. My wife and I have even given our boys cash when they didn't have enough to take their girlfriend out.
So, where is it carved in stone? In my house, that's where.
another example of your ignorance when it comes to me, and a glaring condemnation on you wanting to make women less than what they are and deserve, by making them "equal".
Well then you just sucked it up and we didn't.
The whole manifest destiny, world dominance thing is all in your demented fringe left head.
Thank you. I went for a coffee and a drive this afternoon (scouting for geese) and I was thinking about this site. In particular I was thinking about your response to my "pw" expression and regretting that it offended you. I had honestly never thought of it in the way you pointed out - that of the red neck berating "his woman". I see your point.
I also hadn't thought of the Prince Charles situation the way you explained it. Another point to you. Since Dianna I have often thought of what a horrible family the British Royalty must be. I recall reading once of an "average" weekday family supper, where all family members had to attend in "the uniform of the day" and be piped to the dinner table by a Sergeant Major piper as though it was a formal military mess dinner. It significantly altered my opinion of QE II to that of an unfortunate old demagogue. It helps to explain her obviously dysfunctional children. There is a large conspiracy community out there who think that Prince Phillip ordered the killing of Dianna. I was first told of the conspiracy by my elderly mother, a monarchist and a small "c" conservative for whom it took years to accept the possibility that the assassination of JFK might have been a conspiracy. Go figure.
As to the membership, I have found more support than is evident here in some of the arguments. I'm willing to accept your position. I do hold to a conspiracy theory on the Internet. I believe the US conservatives, far more than others, gang up and try to either destroy what they think of as liberal sites or convert them. Often they will drive off everyone else and not support the site afterwards, just carry on elsewhere to start over. I am quite willing to oppose them, because IMO their agenda is to stifle freedom of expression across society.
That's great Gerry, maybe you have more to prove than I do. If a woman wanted to buy my dinner I'd let her rather than risk insulting her. There's generally another opportunity to even up.
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If she was to be insulted, then she wasn't worth it in the first place. Time to move on.
P.S. This thread seems to have gotten slightly removed from Charlie! -
For me, thinking about Charles as King is just too damn depressing. As far as I'm concerned, when Queen Elizabeth leaves, Charles should decline and pass the crown to William.
Maybe, but I can see one slight tiny problem with that.......................................Charles may not agree and he has first choice.
Thanks tober. I appreciate the response and the thought you put forth into your posts and appreciate your input. I do not always agree with your posts but frankly those posts that I disagree with are the ones that I think about the most. And they do change the way I view issues. And that is why I return here repeatedly. There is that old adage I have always liked: if two men in business always agree, then one of them is unnecessary.
My parents were British immigrants and I was raised with positive feelings toward the monarchy although my parents had a very realistic approach to things including that. I have a soft spot for Charles because the year he got married it was all about Di. I specifically remember their honeymoon interview. They were in Scotland and the press said something about being madly in love. Charles hesitated and said something like: yes, what ever that means. I remember turning to my mum and saying: my god he doesn't love her. Her response was, doesn't matter what he wants or doesn't want, it is his duty. i said but that is wrong and her reply was, of course it is wrong, but it is the way of the world. I thought how terrible for both of them because she looked at him like he was her god.
It's the human condition isn't it? We don't always dig too deeply. For Diana dinners were torture because she was anorexic/bulimic. She would binge and purge and Charles just couldn't wrap his head around it. She was messed from the get go poor young thing. I don't know about the conspiracies but anything is possible. I don't know it is probable but if we can think it, then it can be. If it can be, then it is possible.
I will think deeper about the American political point and what it means.
Thanks
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Fortunately the whole world isn't imprisoned in the 'poor me radical feminist' mould. Some people are aggressive Alpha personalities, bullies who butt in to challenge others and assert themselves in a pecking order pissing contest. Often there will be a rationalization to make it appear that the other needed to be put in their place. This is logical, because to the Alpha dog any new player must be dominated and put in the place the bully wants on the pecking order.
How do we tell if that is what it is? Watch to see if the Alpha dog comes back every day to see if the victim is willing to surrender. If the first shot between the Alpha dog and the target every day is the Alpha dog trying to piss on the target's leg, the Alpha dog is picking a dominance fight. What can the target do? Stand on the Alpha dog's rug every day so Alpha dog pisses on their own mattress, then point at the stain.
Sal;1802309]you'd best duck ya brat. :lol:
Of course that is a very simple idea, maybe it hasn't been mostly true for hundreds of thousands of years.What the hell is wrong with a nice warm sun facing cave overlooking the water hole and close to the hunting and shopping?
Passive and subordinate are two different things active and overbearing are two things as well, aren't they? Naturally women are superior certainly not equal. Of course there are many instances when this natural rule is not followed, but generally it has been adhered to, there is no other factual explanation necessary, the continued survival of the species speaks for itself, in my opinion.
The home, cave, hearth is the womans domain naturally, it is a nest for babies, men serve a subordinate position in that case I guess, someone has to hunt the rabbits.
There are many countries in the world where men are killed in the thousands looking for rabbits.There are many countries in the world where women are not so lucky as we are here. Thus, I do tend to be a tad reactive.
It's all about money with you ain't it?
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Rabbits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A real man is out hunting moose, buffalo, grizzly bear.
("Sons of Liberty"? LOL. Some people are too stupid to get away with trying to float the Big Lie.)
Dubya stated in 2006 that manifest destiny was still Republican policy. The "New American Century" can be seen at
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ROFLMAO!!!!! Toooooo funny! In one breath you try to keep women subservient and men superior with your 'carved in stone' attitude of men always paying for whatever and then your next line you try to tell me I make women less than equal by saying they are equal. :lol::lol::lol::roll:
You are a fricking caveman G. You're attitude stinks and you are teaching your sons to be cavemen just like you. I feel sorry for any girl they date or marry if they don't break away from your outdated, chauvinistic mentality. Hopefully they meet a strong woman who will teach them she is quite capable of paying her own way and won't allow herself to be treated as anything less than a complete equal in all ways including dating.